Is there a way to hide threads so we don't see them?

SilverBride · February 22

Is there a way to hide threads so we don't see them? I don't need to see long threads that I have no interest in showing up in my feed day after day. And some of these threads are being bumped every day so they aren't naturally dropping out of view. It would be great if we could hide or ignore them.

Radiate77 · February 22

You can ignore threads, just click on the cog next to them when highlighted and it gives you the option.

whitecrow · February 22

If you hover over the envelope icon before the thread title it turns into a settings gear and the option to mute appears. I assume that will do what you intend.

SilverBride · February 22

Awesome! I didn't know this. I will give it a try!

SilverBride · February 22

I clicked the icon and choose to mute the thread, but I don't see that it did anything.
It did work! I just had to close the forum and reopen it and I don't see it now. Thanks!

It's working off and on. I hope it eventually stays muted.

SummersetCitizen · February 22

I share this sentiment. I would like this function for other reasons.

I am tired of the forum mismanagement.

Posts get deleted without cause, people get banned, threads get opened and closed willy-nilly.

There is no recourse or accountability for bad moderators.

SilverBride · February 22

For myself, I just plain don't want to keep finding the same long thread every day that I have no interest in, and it won't just move on naturally because it is being bumped every day.

Soarora · February 22

Agreed. It’d be nice to be able to clean up the threads by removing ones I don’t have any interest in reading through. Ignoring the poster doesn’t work either.

lillybit · February 22

Mute doesn't hide anything, it just stops notifications so you can comment on popular posts without getting bombarded with them

SilverBride · February 22

lillybit wrote: »

Mute doesn't hide anything, it just stops notifications so you can comment on popular posts without getting bombarded with them

I turned off notifications a long time ago. So there is no way to actually hide a thread so we don't even see it on our list?

SummersetCitizen · February 22

SilverBride wrote: »

For myself, I just plain don't want to keep finding the same long thread every day that I have no interest in, and it won't just move on naturally because the same couple of people keep bumping it every day.

I totally agree.

What frustrates me is that some threads which have 100% run their course keep getting closed and opened without proper explanation.

KapiteinBoterham · 12:12AM

How are the devs even gonna find out about problems when everyone treats these forums like a damn chatroom.

SilverBride · 12:19AM

We really need a way to hide threads, or archive them, or something to get them out of our list. They just take up space where other threads we find more interesting could be instead. @ZOS_Kevin Is something like this possible?

ZOS_Hadeostry · 12:23AM

Greetings,

I wanted to take some time clearing up some of the things said in this thread, as many are confused about forum moderation.

When threads/post(s) get moderated, it's due to the thread/post(s) were found to be against the Community Rules . Repeated violations can cause an account to be banned from posting. When threads get closed, there should be a message, by staff, stating why the thread was closed.

If you do come across any post/thread that you believe is breaking those rules, make sure you report it, so the Moderation team can review.

If someone wants to appeal or need clarification about an action on the forums, they can do this here

If you have feedback or have a specific question about moderation or those Community Rules, please email us at community@elderscrollsonline.com.

I will leave off with something that is said in those same Community Rules which sums it up "If ever in doubt, please remember to be civil, constructive, and respectful at all times"

valenwood_vegan · 1:38AM

Keep in mind that they're using third party forum software, so they don't necessarily have a lot of control over what features are available. I don't *think* Vanilla offers anything like a "hide this thread" option, but admittedly my knowledge could also be outdated.

Destai · 1:45AM

ZOS_Hadeostry wrote: »

Greetings,

I wanted to take some time clearing up some of the things said in this thread, as many are confused about forum moderation.

When threads/post(s) get moderated, it's due to the thread/post(s) were found to be against the Community Rules . Repeated violations can cause an account to be banned from posting. When threads get closed, there should be a message, by staff, stating why the thread was closed.

The main concern is there doesn't seem to be consistency in how the rules are applied.

The other big concern is things happen behind the scenes and we're never told why. Like this thread here.

If you guys are being told by the CMs or leadership to curtail certain topics, then it's only fair we know what those topics are and why it's so sensitive.

ZOS_Hadeostry wrote: »

If someone wants to appeal or need clarification about an action on the forums, they can do this here

How often are appeals successful and is it another moderator reviewing it?

ZOS_Hadeostry wrote: »

If you have feedback or have a specific question about moderation or those Community Rules, please email us at community@elderscrollsonline.com.

I've messaged moderators directly and have never once heard back. And I'm not the only one. Because of that, I can't imagine many people trust the process you're sharing. Maybe that's something that can be discussed here.

Fundamentally, general rules and broad issues with moderation need to be publicly discussed because they're something we all deal with. Over the years, we've tried to have multiple discussions as a community about how moderation impacts us. Those conversations are cut short over the slightest violations even though most people are being civil. And rather than you guys joining those conversations, we're just given links and reminders to be on our best behavior. I don't think that's what people are asking for here.

Ultimately, people are asking for things to change and for moderators to be more consistent, personable, and transparent. I would hope you guys are willing to make adjustments based on our feedback as your customers.

SilverBride · 2:29AM

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Keep in mind that they're using third party forum software, so they don't necessarily have a lot of control over what features are available. I don't *think* Vanilla offers anything like a "hide this thread" option, but admittedly my knowledge could also be outdated.

I don't know what is possible with Vanilla which is why I asked if something like this may be possible. It's never hurts to ask and who knows, there may be features we are not aware of.

ZOS_Hadeostry · 2:33AM

I wanted to go ahead and answer some of the questions brought up.

How often are appeals successful and is it another moderator reviewing it?

It is always another member of staff reviewing the appeal, done independent of the staff that did the action.

I've messaged moderators directly and have never once heard back. And I'm not the only one. Because of that, I can't imagine many people trust the process you're sharing. Maybe that's something that can be discussed here.

You can PM us, however that particular moderator might not be working, which is why I recommend to email us community@elderscrollsonline.com.

Over the years, we've tried to have multiple discussions as a community about how moderation impacts us. Those conversations are cut short over the slightest violations even though most people are being civil. And rather than you guys joining those conversations, we're just given links and reminders to be on our best behavior. I don't think that's what people are asking for here.

There have been plenty of these feedback threads, with Kevin even chiming in. We have made changes based on feedback. One specific example I can give is not moving every thread to it's appropriate and correct section, rather than being in General. In regards to multiple discussions, generally these discussions are technically not about the game itself, as it's about moderation. We have allowed these, however they have either gone off topic or went against those Community Rules after multiple in thread warnings by the moderators.

That being said, let's back to the topic that was presented. Is there a way to hide threads so we don't see them?

Vonnegut2506 · 3:18AM

ZOS_Hadeostry wrote: »

I wanted to go ahead and answer some of the questions brought up.

How often are appeals successful and is it another moderator reviewing it?

It is always another member of staff reviewing the appeal, done independent of the staff that did the action.

I've messaged moderators directly and have never once heard back. And I'm not the only one. Because of that, I can't imagine many people trust the process you're sharing. Maybe that's something that can be discussed here.

You can PM us, however that particular moderator might not be working, which is why I recommend to email us community@elderscrollsonline.com.

Over the years, we've tried to have multiple discussions as a community about how moderation impacts us. Those conversations are cut short over the slightest violations even though most people are being civil. And rather than you guys joining those conversations, we're just given links and reminders to be on our best behavior. I don't think that's what people are asking for here.

There have been plenty of these feedback threads, with Kevin even chiming in. We have made changes based on feedback. One specific example I can give is not moving every thread to it's appropriate and correct section, rather than being in General. In regards to multiple discussions, generally these discussions are technically not about the game itself, as it's about moderation. We have allowed these, however they have either gone off topic or went against those Community Rules after multiple in thread warnings by the moderators.

That being said, let's back to the topic that was presented. Is there a way to hide threads so we don't see them?

So, you know, is there?

katanagirl1 · 5:36AM

The threads turn gray if I click on them and read them whereas the ones I don’t click on will be dark green. If I can remember to look at the title of the thread and if it is one I am no longer interested in following I just pass over it and it stays dark green. That’s the best I can do. I read the forums from bottom to top so the unread ones eventually work their way down the page and out of sight and out of mind.

I don’t know if that would work if you go to Recent or whatever, I don’t do that. I just hit the categories I am interested in.

SummersetCitizen · 3:19PM

I am happy to be keeping up with this thread. We are all commenting in agreement of @SilverBride but have different posts in mind as to why.

In the thread I am referencing, the moderator posted saying it ran it’s course. That post was quietly deleted and replaced with a different moderator message reminding people to follow the rules.

They offered no explanation.

I posted my dissatisfaction with this. That the opening and closing of threads felt bad for users. I was told my post was breaking the rules. I won’t discuss how the moderator decided to handle me, but I didn’t feel it was appropriate.

Reporting bad moderation decisions feels pointless as it is never addressed. If we discuss it here we get banned. So, nothing improves.

Being able to hide threads would be very welcomed.

SilverBride · 4:17PM

There is really only one thread that I'd like to hide at the moment to get it off the front page of my list. The posts have been off the original topic for many pages and it has become a personal conversation rather than a constructive discussion. It ran it's course but is not being allowed to naturally fade away. I'd rather newer threads occupy it's spot on my list which is why I want to hide it.

Syldras · 5:51PM

SilverBride wrote: »

There is really only one thread that I'd like to hide at the moment to get it off the front page of my list. The posts have been off the original topic for many pages and it has become a personal conversation rather than a constructive discussion. It ran it's course but is not being allowed to naturally fade away. I'd rather newer threads occupy it's spot on my list which is why I want to hide it.

If you mean the thread opened by me, about ESO's writing and specifically the statements made in a news article about the Solstice year (including how clear good/evil schemes were "fun") : We're currently discussing
- a Solstice random encounter with a necromancer, wondering whether the short story we get presented there makes sense, considering lore about necromancy.
- the nature of souls in TES lore, which is also related to the question how lore-plausible some necromancy depictions in Solstice were or not (and lore-accuracy is of course a question of writing).
- the conflict between the Mages Guild and the Order of the Black Worm and the points of debate between Vanus Galerion and Mannimarco, which is also a discussion related to the main themes and very central factions in the Solstice story.
- how and why Abnur Tharn was an interesting character, as an example for a well-liked character who clearly does not follow clear good/evil categories, basically as a way to disprove the news article's statement about clichéd characters being generally well-liked by the public.

So we're in the middle of discussing ESO. These topics are all related to writing (especially with a viewpoint on lore), that black/white scheme statement, and most of all Solstice. Yes, there's also some jokes inbetween, and a bit of personal chattter, but that's unavoidable, I think, as we are no robots, but friends, so we talk like friends. Still, it's not meant to be a personal conversation - everyone, without exception, is welcome to the discussion. And every now and then, people do join in. We also know that there are several people who read everything, even if they only comment occasionally.

It's legit that someone might not find that interesting - and I hope people who want to hide that thread find some option to do that.

AScarlato · 6:10PM

There aren't so many threads on this forum that it's all that hard to keep up with, or that you can't just not open topics that don't interest you.

If they want to work on adding a functionality so a few people can spend time removing all topics that don't interest them instead of just doing what most people do, which is read the title and move on, that's up to them.

This mostly seems like a forum rule friendly swipe at other posters in my opinion, which is something I have noticed as a pattern with some. (See, I can do it too.)

ToddIngram · 6:22PM

SummersetCitizen wrote: »

I share this sentiment. I would like this function for other reasons.

I am tired of the forum mismanagement.

Posts get deleted without cause, people get banned, threads get opened and closed willy-nilly.

There is no recourse or accountability for bad moderators.

x1000

Most people I know abandoned this forum years ago for these very reasons. Some even left the game entirely due to how they were treated on this forum.

ToddIngram · 6:24PM

SummersetCitizen wrote: »

I am happy to be keeping up with this thread. We are all commenting in agreement of @SilverBride but have different posts in mind as to why.

In the thread I am referencing, the moderator posted saying it ran it’s course. That post was quietly deleted and replaced with a different moderator message reminding people to follow the rules.

They offered no explanation.

I posted my dissatisfaction with this. That the opening and closing of threads felt bad for users. I was told my post was breaking the rules. I won’t discuss how the moderator decided to handle me, but I didn’t feel it was appropriate.

Reporting bad moderation decisions feels pointless as it is never addressed. If we discuss it here we get banned. So, nothing improves.

Being able to hide threads would be very welcomed.

The police will never police themselves in a way that benefits anyone but themselves. And their pets will always get away with things that get others perma banned.

SilverBride · 8:06PM

AScarlato wrote: »

There aren't so many threads on this forum that it's all that hard to keep up with, or that you can't just not open topics that don't interest you.

If they want to work on adding a functionality so a few people can spend time removing all topics that don't interest them instead of just doing what most people do, which is read the title and move on, that's up to them.

This mostly seems like a forum rule friendly swipe at other posters in my opinion, which is something I have noticed as a pattern with some. (See, I can do it too.)

I do just pass by topics that don't interest me and eventually they conclude and move on to the back pages. But that doesn't always happen. I'd like to keep my list up to date with relevant topics.

This is not a swipe at anyone. It's an observation that some threads are no longer constructive and I'd like to hide them from my list so I can see more new threads.

AScarlato · 8:09PM

SilverBride wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

There aren't so many threads on this forum that it's all that hard to keep up with, or that you can't just not open topics that don't interest you.

If they want to work on adding a functionality so a few people can spend time removing all topics that don't interest them instead of just doing what most people do, which is read the title and move on, that's up to them.

This mostly seems like a forum rule friendly swipe at other posters in my opinion, which is something I have noticed as a pattern with some. (See, I can do it too.)

I do just pass by topics that don't interest me and eventually they conclude and move on to the back pages. But that doesn't always happen. I'd like to keep my list up to date with relevant topics.

This is not a swipe at anyone. It's an observation that some threads are no longer constructive and I'd like to hide them from my list so I can see more new threads.

It clearly is. You stated above that there is ONE thread you don't like seeing updated, and thus have decided to request they spend time updating their website so you can avoid this ONE thread. You even tried to suggest it's off topic now to try to get it closed.

This isn't your personal forum, it's a public forum for all clients of ESO. Part of public forms is that people will have topics that don't interest you.

SilverBride · 8:27PM

AScarlato wrote: »

It clearly is. You stated above that there is ONE thread you don't like seeing updated, and thus have decided to request they spend time updating their website so you can avoid this ONE thread. You even tried to suggest it's off topic now to try to get it closed.

This isn't your personal forum, it's a public forum for all clients of ESO. Part of public forms is that people will have topics that don't interest you.

I said "at the moment". There have been others but eventually they dropped off. I'm just thankful that the monstrous overland thread is pinned so I don't have to keep seeing it in my main list.

I asked if there was currently a way to hide threads. Since there isn't I asked if it would be possible.

AScarlato · 8:31PM

SilverBride wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

It clearly is. You stated above that there is ONE thread you don't like seeing updated, and thus have decided to request they spend time updating their website so you can avoid this ONE thread. You even tried to suggest it's off topic now to try to get it closed.

This isn't your personal forum, it's a public forum for all clients of ESO. Part of public forms is that people will have topics that don't interest you.

I said "at the moment". There have been others but eventually they dropped off. I'm just thankful that the monstrous overland thread is pinned so I don't have to keep seeing it in my main list.

I agree that this isn't anyone's personal forum.

Most days every new comment can be seen on page 1. Sometimes a few new comments appear on threads on page 2.

We simply do not have the volume of posts that I feel this request is necessary. I also don't believe that you are missing or aren't seeing new threads due to one or two ongoing conversations that you have grown bored of.

Again, this is their website so if they find this to be a priority for them over everything else they can spend resources on, then so be it.

Syldras · 8:31PM

SilverBride wrote: »

I'm just thankful that the monstrous overland thread is pinned so I don't have to keep seeing it in my main list.

If pinning solves the problem, maybe you could request this thread to be pinned? Only until they add a "ignore thread" functionality to the forum software, of course.