UI respec V WW add-on ( from an PSN main)

heimdall14_9 · February 4

UI RESPEC = an official tool the dev team put time and ( our )money into tring to give the players something we've been asking for a way to respec without having to travel to an shrine or use armory , an good 1st try at giving the players an way but the armory was limited by you 1st had to have the fix for the problematic issue pre saved and they are limited inside dungeons trials arenas and pvp

NOT RESTRICTED TO ANY PLATFORM

things UI RESPEC would allow you to do
1) change out skills
2)change out attributes
i want to point out that you the player has to call out an armory to use and UI RESPEC you have to open menus and make your own changes . to me that sounds like an helpful tool that could help an player needing to change something , respectable !!!!!!!!!

WW add-on = well its just that an ADD-ON but this ADD-ON is an armory on steroids that automatically makes changes for you and doesn't have limits where it can be used in fact it comes pre loaded with every raid mapped out so that it will change your gear/skills/cp/food automatically just pre set your builds and forget it the add-on will do the rest for you with no limits as to where you are or even you the player having to do anything

NEWLY ADDED TO PSN/XBOX, RESTRICTED FROM PS4/XBOX1

things WW add-on will do automatically
1) identify where in game your at , boss fight ( WBs too) trash fight , ect ( automatically)
2) change your gear ( automatically)
3) change your CP ( automatically)
4) change your skills ( no-subclasses) ( automatically)
5) change your food ( automatically)
6) eat/drink your buff food automatically after it runs out
7) use repair kits to repair gear ( has crown kits limited on/off ) (automatically)
i hope i didnt miss anything autopilot oh i mean WW add-on does for the player AUTOMATICALLY

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_Kevin

when looking at the two above i see 1 is an helpful system that allows players to change out something if an problematic situation happens and the need for an skill change is only fix the other is just an automatic add-on that breaks every rule you have set forth for your own system and helps no one when an problematic situation happens .AND AFTER TALKING TO PC PLAYERS ABOUT HOW TOXIC THIS ADD-ON HAS MADE IT THERE ID SAY ITS MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN ANYTHING ONE MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE AN SKILL OVER !!!!!!!!!!!

if we are to be restricting an helpful tool that has limits why aint we dealing with the bigger fish of an automated add-on with no limitations??????

heimdall14_9 · February 4

was edited to show that this is the view point of an PSN player where add-ons are NEW and restricted by generation PS4/PS5

heimdall14_9 · February 4

to my PC brothers and sisters in arms please help your PSN brother out so as the problems you've been having dont bleed off to US i get theres no anonymous way to post and you dont want to be shamed over there on PC and theres only maybe an handful of PSN players here in the forums so its easy to side with PC but PLEASE HELP SAVE OTHER PLATFORMS FROM BECOMING JUST AS TOXIC

like me here or not passing toxicity over to other platforms aint cool

heimdall14_9 · February 5

@ZOS_Finn @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_Kira @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_ ANYONE THAT MIGHT CRAE ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I CAN SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHY PC PLAYERS ARE NOT RESPONDING HERE 1 THEY DONT WANT TO BE SHAMED 2 THEY DONT WANT SOMETHING THEY HAVE HAD FOR 9 YEARS AKEN FROM THEM BUT THIS IS 100% BS TO BE DRAGING AROUND THIS ADD-ON TO ALL PLATFORMS IF ITS MADE PC SO TOXIC IN GUILD RAIDS AS THE OTHER TWO PLATFORMS ADD-ONS ARE 7 MONTHS OLD NOT 9 YEARS AND IM CALLING OUT THIS EXPLOITABLE ADD-ON FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH IVE BEEN PLAYING PSN ESO SINCE RELEASE DAY AND ID LIKE TO SEE THE GAME HOLD ONTO ITS INTEGRITY HERE AND DEAL WITH THIS LONG STANDING PC ISSUE AND NEW PSN XBOX ISSUE AS ITS NOT HEALTHY FOR THE GAME

heimdall14_9 · February 6

from the eso dev team about console add-ons

Community Manager
In preparation for add-on support coming to ESO on consoles shortly after the launch of Update 46 in June, we would like to invite all console add-on developers to begin uploading your add-ons to our new uploader tool, located here. This tool will provide information on how add-on publishing works. If you are looking for information on how to write an add-on for ESO, what’s in the API, what libraries exist, etc., we encourage you check out the resources at https://www.esoui.com/forums/index.php or https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/add-ons-and-ui-mods

A few additional notes:
The week of June 23, shortly after the Update 46 console launch on June 18, players will be able to download add-ons from within the in-game UI on next-gen consoles (Xbox Series X/S and PlayStation 5). This feature will not be available on last-gen consoles, nor on PC/Mac. (No downtime or game reload will be required.)
The ESO team cannot assist with add-on related issues that players run into. It is up to add-on developers to fix any issues with their add-ons. We do not moderate, review, approve, QA, or guarantee ESO add-ons in any way. If an add-on is vulgar, offensive, or otherwise violates our Terms of Service, we encourage players to report them from within the game. (You may view our add-on EULA here.)
Lastly, please be aware that add-ons for ESO are UI add-ons only. They are not like add-ons for some single-player games where you may change your character models or build/modify zones, quests, weapons, etc.

i have shown that WW add-on is more then an UI add-on and by this post not attended for console to begin with pre @ZOS_Kevin's official post about console add-ons

Renato90085 · February 6

you know the game UI addon have more bonus addon like auto recharge/sell/donation guild/teleport/swap build/fixed gear/done crafter daily/open chest/make gear /writer daily ...etc they all just save time,cant auto help you finished game
and some producers even know the developers... or streamers are using it too, right?
in addition,i think ZOS say you cant may change your character models mean addon cant make your character to be Anime characters or 18+ cloth addon(like FF14??)or change every map/quest to your fav race style
armory/banker/trader was limited to use just because they from crown store,if not limited ,eso must be a pay to win game

heimdall14_9 · February 6

Renato90085 wrote: »

you know the game UI addon have more bonus addon like auto recharge/sell/donation guild/teleport/swap build/fixed gear/done crafter daily/open chest/make gear /writer daily ...etc they all just save time,cant auto help you finished game
and some producers even know the developers... or streamers are using it too, right?
in addition,i think ZOS say you cant may change your character models mean addon cant make your character to be Anime characters or 18+ cloth addon(like FF14??)or change every map/quest to your fav race style
armory/banker/trader was limited to use just because they from crown store,if not limited ,eso must be a pay to win game

i get that some healthy add-ons do automatic actions within the game and thats okay if it stays healthybut when an add-on is called out as unhealthy, and unattended for console and the introducement of UI respec an official system thats has been asked for , you know ESO giving the PLAYERS their want list

Renato90085 · February 6

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

you know the game UI addon have more bonus addon like auto recharge/sell/donation guild/teleport/swap build/fixed gear/done crafter daily/open chest/make gear /writer daily ...etc they all just save time,cant auto help you finished game
and some producers even know the developers... or streamers are using it too, right?
in addition,i think ZOS say you cant may change your character models mean addon cant make your character to be Anime characters or 18+ cloth addon(like FF14??)or change every map/quest to your fav race style
armory/banker/trader was limited to use just because they from crown store,if not limited ,eso must be a pay to win game

i get that some healthy add-ons do automatic actions within the game and thats okay if it stays healthybut when an add-on is called out as unhealthy, and unattended for console and the introducement of UI respec an official system thats has been asked for , you know ESO giving the PLAYERS their want list

what part unhealthy for you?

heimdall14_9 · February 6

@Renato90085

,i think ZOS say you cant may change your character models mean addon cant make your character to be Anime characters or 18+ cloth addon(like FF14??)

we can split hairs all day on what they mean 100% but i honestly believe Kevin was trying to give you pc players an ⚠ warning that they was giving you guys a lot of leeway on ADD-ONs that console player's might not agree with after getting into them an figuring out what they do to the game they know and have played for 10 years

heimdall14_9 · February 6

Renato90085 wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

you know the game UI addon have more bonus addon like auto recharge/sell/donation guild/teleport/swap build/fixed gear/done crafter daily/open chest/make gear /writer daily ...etc they all just save time,cant auto help you finished game
and some producers even know the developers... or streamers are using it too, right?
in addition,i think ZOS say you cant may change your character models mean addon cant make your character to be Anime characters or 18+ cloth addon(like FF14??)or change every map/quest to your fav race style
armory/banker/trader was limited to use just because they from crown store,if not limited ,eso must be a pay to win game

i get that some healthy add-ons do automatic actions within the game and thats okay if it stays healthybut when an add-on is called out as unhealthy, and unattended for console and the introducement of UI respec an official system thats has been asked for , you know ESO giving the PLAYERS their want list

what part unhealthy for you?

what part of running this is unhealthy to me ? to me anything that aids in combat outside my personal awareness and actions is unhealthy for my true abilities of doing something myself or with outside aid leasing the value of doing it and this doing 60+ actions on autopilot lessens the value of speed runs in the game so yes its unhealthy for me

Renato90085 · February 6

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

you know the game UI addon have more bonus addon like auto recharge/sell/donation guild/teleport/swap build/fixed gear/done crafter daily/open chest/make gear /writer daily ...etc they all just save time,cant auto help you finished game
and some producers even know the developers... or streamers are using it too, right?
in addition,i think ZOS say you cant may change your character models mean addon cant make your character to be Anime characters or 18+ cloth addon(like FF14??)or change every map/quest to your fav race style
armory/banker/trader was limited to use just because they from crown store,if not limited ,eso must be a pay to win game

i get that some healthy add-ons do automatic actions within the game and thats okay if it stays healthybut when an add-on is called out as unhealthy, and unattended for console and the introducement of UI respec an official system thats has been asked for , you know ESO giving the PLAYERS their want list

what part unhealthy for you?

what part of running this is unhealthy to me ? to me anything that aids in combat outside my personal awareness and actions is unhealthy for my true abilities of doing something myself or with outside aid leasing the value of doing it and this doing 60+ actions on autopilot lessens the value of speed runs in the game so yes its unhealthy for me

so you mean is want zos delete WW/dressroom addon and UI respec or what..?

heimdall14_9 · February 6

Renato90085 wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

you know the game UI addon have more bonus addon like auto recharge/sell/donation guild/teleport/swap build/fixed gear/done crafter daily/open chest/make gear /writer daily ...etc they all just save time,cant auto help you finished game
and some producers even know the developers... or streamers are using it too, right?
in addition,i think ZOS say you cant may change your character models mean addon cant make your character to be Anime characters or 18+ cloth addon(like FF14??)or change every map/quest to your fav race style
armory/banker/trader was limited to use just because they from crown store,if not limited ,eso must be a pay to win game

i get that some healthy add-ons do automatic actions within the game and thats okay if it stays healthybut when an add-on is called out as unhealthy, and unattended for console and the introducement of UI respec an official system thats has been asked for , you know ESO giving the PLAYERS their want list

what part unhealthy for you?

what part of running this is unhealthy to me ? to me anything that aids in combat outside my personal awareness and actions is unhealthy for my true abilities of doing something myself or with outside aid leasing the value of doing it and this doing 60+ actions on autopilot lessens the value of speed runs in the game so yes its unhealthy for me

so you mean is want zos delete WW/dressroom addon and UI respec or what..?

if your asking what i want i want zos to do the right thing an remove WW/DR from PSN/ESO all together and do as they want with UI respec but i wouldn't be putting restrictions on my own system due to an add-ons behavior id be restricting that add-on and putting my system in place without the need for restrictions on it

heimdall14_9 · February 6

i mean lets get 100% real with it who runs the department of the game now ZOS and the ESO DEV TEAM or the ADD-ON developer's??????????

Renato90085 · February 6

i still dont get you point,zos permit us to use addon auto something to save time last 10 year,and limited the armory/new UI in leaderboard because they can change anything,the addon only can swap build to save your time,but cant give you swap tank to dps,you still is a dps,just have st/aoe build
This wasn't a problem before, because it does not exist yet, so why has it become a problem now

heimdall14_9 · February 6

Renato90085 wrote: »

i still dont get you point,zos permit us to use addon auto something to save time last 10 year,and limited the armory/new UI in leaderboard because they can change anything,the addon only can swap build to save your time,but cant give you swap tank to dps,you still is a dps,just have st/aoe build
This wasn't a problem before, because it does not exist yet, so why has it become a problem now

add-ons are new to console been in 7 months or so

and as an developer idc some add-on in my game 50 years if it interfere with what im trying to put out it going out it that easy an answer as its my game not some add-on developer's

heimdall14_9 · February 6

Renato90085 wrote: »

i still dont get you point,zos permit us to use addon auto something to save time last 10 year,and limited the armory/new UI in leaderboard because they can change anything,the addon only can swap build to save your time,but cant give you swap tank to dps,you still is a dps,just have st/aoe build
This wasn't a problem before, because it does not exist yet, so why has it become a problem now

and i could 100% set up where i could switch from dps to tank then to healer then back to dps then back to tank all based on pre set gear swaps ive added into the system to do for me with most pre set as trash boss but able to be named at will yourself ive only spent about 20 minutes testing its activities ( VMSA and overland with WBs and trash packs ) and dont realy care to see anymore as what ive seen destroys the integrity of the game right out the window for me

heimdall14_9 · February 6

@Renato90085

the problem with being me i even argue with myself and have came to the feeling that instead of an complete removal of the ADD-ON id restrict its unhealthy auto function and ask for them to make it as an dropdown UI menu that allows you to scroll through different pre set saves, taking the automated function out of the ADD-ON would do enough to stop it from being unhealthy and turn it into an helpful tool

Renato90085 · February 6

sorry,english not my native language, so I assume your problem is that you don't want addons to hinder the development of new features, so you want limited the addon too ,yes.?

heimdall14_9 · February 6

Renato90085 wrote: »

sorry,english not my native language, so I assume your problem is that you don't want addons to hinder the development of new features, so you want limited the addon too ,yes.?

yes

the auto functionality of it needs limited to just an UI dropdown menu with pre saved set-ups you can scroll and chose from

Renato90085 · February 6

Honestly, if you just want save the new system/addon in vet trial/pvp/arena, my pov is change leaderboard or trifecta achievement work way is more easy,and zos can dont limited anything anymore
i personal like new system too,i still remember i dont know have addon can swap build,so i manual to swap and behind to group,i dont think limited both is a good choose

heimdall14_9 · February 6

Renato90085 wrote: »

Honestly, if you just want save the new system/addon in vet trial/pvp/arena, my pov is change leaderboard or trifecta achievement work way is more easy,and zos can dont limited anything anymore
i personal like new system too,i still remember i dont know have addon can swap build,so i manual to swap and behind to group,i dont think limited both is a good choose

tbh after installing the add-on reading what its set up to do testing it in VMSA, WBs, trash pack , i did my videos and turn off the game and yet to get back on it , and with how things look i may never be doing so again

robpr · February 6

On PC auto-equip is a toggle and generally people have it off so you won't get caught in combat mid-change (because it will wait until out of combat).

The addon doesn't do anything else you would have to do manually - and it can be as double as tedious with the controller. It can't change your attributes or CP point allocation (only slottables you already allocated but not slotted) nor apply curses like Armory station.
It can't change your skill point allocation, morphs or subclassing like full Respec UI you pointed. All skills and passives need to be allocated before all of that. The addon will just swap these on your bar.

All this addon does is enabling the same time-savers as PC players getting them closer to them in case we would have crossplay. I don't know anybody that have any grudge against swapping their setups with a hotkey, especially supports that often have multiple pages of different setups for any combination or fight. DPS guys don't need that many setups per trash/boss because Arc beam exists and builds are extremely homogenized. I haven't met any group that would require it either - they just expect your performance to be on par with everyone. How you achieve that, either with swapping setups or not, it doesnt matter.

Completely switching your role that Armory or Respec UI allows is not what people want. Gear swap addon will not let you do that.

heimdall14_9 · February 6

robpr wrote: »

On PC auto-equip is a toggle and generally people have it off so you won't get caught in combat mid-change (because it will wait until out of combat).

The addon doesn't do anything else you would have to do manually - and it can be as double as tedious with the controller. It can't change your attributes or CP point allocation (only slottables you already allocated but not slotted) nor apply curses like Armory station.
It can't change your skill point allocation, morphs or subclassing like full Respec UI you pointed. All skills and passives need to be allocated before all of that. The addon will just swap these on your bar.

All this addon does is enabling the same time-savers as PC players getting them closer to them in case we would have crossplay. I don't know anybody that have any grudge against swapping their setups with a hotkey, especially supports that often have multiple pages of different setups for any combination or fight. DPS guys don't need that many setups per trash/boss because Arc beam exists and builds are extremely homogenized. I haven't met any group that would require it either - they just expect your performance to be on par with everyone. How you achieve that, either with swapping setups or not, it doesnt matter.

Completely switching your role that Armory or Respec UI allows is not what people want. Gear swap addon will not let you do that.

ill use my templar thats maxed in every skill and that has an dps build, tank build, and healer build all pure classed i can set that up to where i can dps trash , heal at 1st boss , dps trash , off tank 2nd boss , dps trash , dps 3rd boss, dps trash and heal 4th boss the fact that one can do so all without having to do anything outside of setting up an add-on be forehand allowing for nice easy fast speed run and exploit in the system even without me being able to change between sub classed skills or not

am an player that dont want to be made to use an add-on to switched anything for me not on my healer not on my tank not on my dps and with auto function of WW doing 60+ actions in 1 GCD that makes it mandatory for speed runs

heimdall14_9 · February 8

ZOS reserves the right to modify, restrict, or disable any Add-ons, including any You have enabled, without notice, at any time and for any or no reason, including, but not limited to, (i) direct and indirect violations of the Rules of Conduct, as described in the Terms of Service; (ii) evidence of commercial gain or attribution, including game exploitation; (iii) undue or unfair burden to the Game, its Services, including customer service support, and/or to other users.

@ZOS_Finn @ZOS_Kevin

id like to point this out as ww add-on has been putting an UNFAIR BURDEN on raids by making it mandatory to have in order to stay in runs and not get kicked out

2nd id like to point out this add-on just BURDENED ESO DEV TEAM in its making and publishing of an SYSTEM by making the eso dev team revert the actions of their system in order to fit within the add-ons functions

how is this add-on getting so much leeway when it is showing to be bad for both the players and the dev team ??????

heimdall14_9 · February 16

@ZOS_Kraken @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno
now that the pts has died down can i get someone to respond here , this is an issue that really needs looked into if zos whats to save face as an company because at this point an add-on is running your game not the development team