I have to agree, this personality loses much of its purpose by not carrying the player's weapon, which is quite disappointing. Otherwise, I agree with all the points made.

LonePirate wrote: »

Some issues I have seen so far.

• I was not able to access/obtain some of the rewards despite having enough seals and the item not being locked.
• There is no notification on screen when you complete a challenge. Endeavors currently notify you with a text banner on the screen when you complete an endeavor.
• I re-rolled the Complete an Arena challenge and it populated a second instance of the Kill 5 Citizens with the Blade of Woe challenge. Perhaps this is acceptable; but it's odd to have two identical challenges at the same time.
• Is there a shortcut key to open the tome? If so, I missed it. If not, one needs to be added.

The shortcut is F4! The help menu in-game actually says this too but it's easy to miss.

Since I am not on pts I read the ESO hub article. Am I correct in seeing that the only difference between premium and plus is one costume and some points? As for the other rewards and the way the page looks, not great. Coming from fallout 76, you would wanna emulate or surpass their battle pass page. For all the issues, they get that right. The sample page in the article has what looks to be small icons, cheaply done. Definitely hope they rethink this though I know that's unlikely.

I too was looking for the official feedback thread but since we're already rolling here I have my own stuff to share.

Feedback
Let's start with the ui. While parts of it have it's endearing charm, it's massively clunky. The book going off the screen was I assume meant to look charming but instead it comes off as messy and unfinished. Above screenshot by the op looks fine but the secondary ui looks awkward visually. Artistically, lines often guide the eye and the hard line of the book leading off the page often has my eye naturally going off my screen or feeling like I have some weird popup ad from yesteryear on my screen. I really do see the vision but it's really not landing for this ui.
I'd much rather have a book that we can flip or using something closer to the actual in game lorebook ui which already lets us turn pages and interact in ways that feel more pleasant.

Not just aesthetically, but functionality wise the Tome ui is incredibly clunky. With Endeavors and Golden Pursuits, we could get right into the list easily but for Tomes we have to do multiple clicks to get to the list of what to do. The challenges ui once you're there are equally clunky. It took me a moment to figure out how to reroll challenges (it's F). When a tier of a challenge is done, you need to do those multiple clicks to go into the ui to claim it. This is doubly frustrating. For the first, in the old system I would often do combat based endeavors in my trials hardmode/tri progs and it would auto award. Now, if there is a tiered combat challenge, the current system has me either try to claim it mid combat to not lose progress, or try to afk in an ongoing encounter to claim it so as to not lose progress. Also, as I have tried to claim the challenges because there are no addons currently for the new system and the old endeavor tracker addons are broken, I have sometimes forgotten to claim challenges after reaching a tier complete leading me to lose progress. As I mentioned with rerolls and will later down with ui previews in the Tomes, you have to press R to claim and not click it which is an ongoing pain point on the Tome's player facing ui and part of what makes it feel so clunky.

Weekly challenges have checkboxes on some and x of y on others and I cannot personally tell what is different functionally between those but is it possible to streamline the ui so it's one or the other and not both? When I was first doing the challenges I was wondering "what are these boxes?" My best guess is one is meant to be repeatable up to a point and others are limited repeatable? The Seasonal challenges seem to have the similar problem. "Daily Login" is 1/99 but both others have a single checkbox to complete and not a tiered one like the weekly challenges.

The alchemical ingredients hint requests specific items for bonus credit but seasoned players might not look at the hints assuming they are for newer players. Perhaps writing the bonus in the actual challenge might work better? I do like the idea in concept that certain challenges have specific bonuses to complete them quicker though. It's a nice touch.

I do not know if the rewards preview being hidden to a few pages until you earn more is a pts hiding thing or not but it absolutely cannot go live. Players have a right to see the full reward track and cost of cosmetics in a Tome before they purchase it. Considering this has money involved and almost every other game lets a player fully preview what they are getting and how much it will cost in tokens or time before purchasing a battle pass, eso's battle pass system needs to do similar for fairness and transparency. People already find battle passes hard to stomach, hiding things will make that worse.

Bugs

• I tried to do "Open 1 Chest from Treasure Maps" twice, it counted for "Loot 1 Treasure Chest" but did not progress the treasure maps one at all.
• Click to preview a cosmetic in the Tomes does not hide the book ui and is buggy. Using the R key hides the book and previews things properly but given how preview click or R key functions in every other preview ui in game this needs to be fixed before going live. I am not surprised that some people thought it was fully bugged.

I know a lot of this is negative or may seem nitpicky but the average player is probably going to feel similar frustrations and if you want people to feel comfortable with battlepasses in eso, it needs to feel good both functionally, aesthetically, and fairness wise. I know people are still on the fence or concerned about the Tome system. While not comprehensive, addressing or fixing some of the above would go a long way to help with some of the misgivings. I tried to keep my feedback as constructive as possible and offer insight and solutions despite it being mostly negative. I'm hoping it helps a better version of Tomes make it to live. I will say I find the thematic around this battlepass more endearing than other battle pass systems I've interacted with so that is a nice start/base for this, just need to fix some bugs and polish up some ui and functionality.

LonePirate wrote: »

Is there a shortcut key to open the tome? If so, I missed it. If not, one needs to be added.

The default key is f4, but I have mentioned in my post above in general how clunky it is to get to the challenges part of the list. Even with the key binding it is a few more clicks to actually see your lists and/or claim things.

Edit: whoops this thread is moving fast and this was already answered, my bad!

Bug: Open X Chests from Treasure Maps doesn't appear to progress. Perhaps the change to the Treasure Map consumption behavior is the reason for it.

awesome feature.
agree on other the feedback from other people.

Personalities like Monster Slayer and Maniacal Jester really should use your equipped weapon.

Awesome that there seems to be a good variety of challenges and that you can reroll for different challenges.

The book interface is cute and seems simple to use.
However, i wish the Tome interface was more like Golden Pursuits and well most other menus, dark background specifically as the paper beige makes it harder to see and read things.
i know it is a tome so paper makes sense, but even an option for dark paper background would be helpful. i think some books already use it, skillbooks or Shalidor's Library?

+1 for fixing the personality to use our equipment

The only thing that is a bit strange and i would say prob more for new players is that you now have to do in game things to earn trade bars to then buy endeavours to then buy things in the crown shop, so its a currency for a currency to buy things in a shop.

Other than that its seems fine, be interesting to see more how many points you get for things how much of a grind it will be, as log in items have now gone so that's 28-31 free items gone away, yes the free track is free but still need to earn the points to buy them.

It would have been nice if the challenges were in the Tome and not in that god awful UI it has now.