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How many transmute stones do you get when you deconstruct a reconstructed item and is ESO improving?

f047ys3v3n
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I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.

How many transmute stones do you get when you deconstruct a reconstructed item and is ESO improving? 18 votes

As many stones as you spent to reconstruct the item
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Vulkunne 1 vote
25 stones
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DenverRalphyf047ys3v3nKlifffizl101DestroyerPewnackAlienatedGoat 6 votes
25 stones unless it's a trials item, those can't be deconned
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25 stones unless it's an arena item, those can't be deconned
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25 stones and a chance at one of the upgrade mats you used to make it higher quality if you did so
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Ishtarknows 1 vote
25 stones unless it's a mythic item, those can't be deconned
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lillybitwolfie1.0.GregaspartaxoxoalienmzPeacefulAnarchyraystormusaInsaneShad0w92LunaFlora 9 votes
25 stones unless it's an infinate archive item, because they are class specific they can't be deconned
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25 stones unless it's jewelry, as a hold over from pre-jewelry crafting days these can't be deconned
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You have a chance to recover up to 25 stones, it's a roll of the dice, like recovering gold mats from gold drops
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0, What do you take me for? You don't get stones back from deconstructing reconstructed items, they can't be deconned.
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scrappy1342 1 vote
  • f047ys3v3n
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    25 stones
    So, last week I decided to do something about the transmute stone inventory problem on my main account and on the two that my young children play on.
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    The first problem I had was that a lot of these stones were on the respective accounts main crafters who multiclassing made playable again but geodes can't be banked or moved around. The second problem is a lot of these were the old 4-25 stone geodes and would require much fewer inventory slots if I could store them as 25 stone reconstructed items. The inventories were stuffed to the gills. I have plenty of complete item sets that require just 25 stones to make and yield 25 on deconstruction but I went with what seemed like the logical choice and just grabbed a mythic set as all them are 1/1 for 25 stones so I didn't have to dig through the sticker book looking for a complete set.

    Here is the thing though. You can deconstruct new mythics, so you remember doing this you probably even think you have deconstructed a reconstructed one. There is also no text on the item saying they can't be deconstructed. There is no warning when you make them either. There is even some conflicting information on the web about whether or not you can deconstruct them. I am telling you now though. You cannot deconstruct a reconstructed mythic item to get the stones like you can some (I'm really not sure if there are other item traps) other items. This information may be buried on page 3 of some patch notes but I didn't know it despite reading more patch notes than probably 99% of players and neither did any of the buddies who have played with me since beta.

    Anyhow, I reconstructed 3,500 stones worth of useless mythic items across 3 accounts including using at least half of the stones on my kids accounts before realizing my error by accidentally making one in the wrong trait and deciding to decon it right away because it looked messy by taking another column in my inventory insight page. I could not decon it, became very confused, and after a bit of conflicting research found a 5 year old thread where about half the responders knew why. I then filed a help ticket asking to get my stones back, explaining how such an error was very easy to make, expressing that we would all also like stones to simply be a currency without the gotcha limitations, and also explaining raising the cap another arbitrary amount doesn't really fix anything.

    This is the response:

    "Greetings!

    Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online Team.

    I understand you are dissatisfied that your reconstructed Mythic items are ineligible for deconstruction. We can empathize with your frustration and thank you for taking the time to report this issue.

    Unfortunately, we're unable to fulfil your desired restoration request. We understand this is disappointing and sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.

    While Customer Support is not composed of members of the development which assist in the creation, maintenance, or stabilization of the game. We are passing feedback to the development team daily, so we will make sure your suggestions reach them as they continue to improve The Elder Scrolls Online.

    Thank you so much for your patience and understanding throughout this process.

    Thank you,
    agent name redacted as workers should never be blamed for policy
    The Elder Scrolls Online Team"


    Honestly, I thought this was an AI generated automatic denial of any request until I noticed the typo. Wow, way to tell me I misunderstood the meaning of your big new customer focused, re-dedication to the game with a new leader you talked about on the whole yearly big reveal.

    To be frank, bad game design caused this issue and it is a very easy issue to fix and also to prevent in the future. It is not a difficult challenge to do either. In fact, in the early years of the game, when, due to poor game design in the form of having no lock function on items, people accidentally deconstructed their good armor at crafting stations frequently, I knew people who had their destroyed items restored manually by customer service. Customer service even went out of it's way for me on a tougher ask a good deal less justified in the pre-Microsoft, pre-maintenince mode days as well.

    Anyhow, have fun with the survey and let me know what you think about this situation or ZOS new focus on the customer.
    I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.
  • spartaxoxo
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    25 stones unless it's a mythic item, those can't be deconned
    Reconstructed mythic items haven't been able to be deconstructed since the ability to recreate them was added into the game because mythic items in general cannot be deconstructed. There are conflicting sources because there was a bug early on that allowed it but that was long ago patched.

    I do personally believe there should be a warning on the item itself though and that support should help ya out here considering the scope of the error.

    Try responding to the ticket and letting them know there's no warning. Sometimes this type of thing takes a 2nd look. It can't hurt. Good luck!
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I, too, reconstructed some Mythic items before realizing they can't be deconstructed, so I feel for you. But in my case, I just reconstructed enough Rings of the Wild Hunt to give each of my characters one, and I hadn't really intended to deconstruct them, so it was no major loss. I can't imagine using 3,500 Transmute Crystals to reconstruct Mythic items with the intention of deconstructing them later to get the Transmute Crystals back, only to discover that you've as good as simply DESTROYed them because you'll never be able to recover them. Hopefully we'll eventually be able to deconstruct reconstructed Mythics, so hang onto them, just in case.
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  • scrappy1342
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    0, What do you take me for? You don't get stones back from deconstructing reconstructed items, they can't be deconned.
    zero. because i use mine to get nirncrux lol
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  • virtus753
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    https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/#en/answer/54425

    That said, I agree there should be a warning in game. There’s enough info missing from the game that one could make a career of cataloguing it all.
  • Malyore
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    Where are the poll options for your second question?

    If you have questions about deconning and transmutes, I'd recommend you post that as a question rather than a poll. Or search for the answers online first before posting.
  • Soarora
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    I don't understand why this is a poll? Its currently "25 stones and a chance at one of the upgrade mats you used to make it higher quality if you did so" AND "25 stones unless it's a mythic item, those can't be deconned".

    I wish mythic items were deconnable. I've had to reconstruct mythics at raid lead request just for them to now be unusable. I understand its a bit "cheese" to be able to deconstruct mythics since its always 25 but as others have said, there was no warning. I've seen multiple posts now about losing a lot of transmute to reconstructing mythics unknowingly essentially deleting their transmute.
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  • lillybit
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    25 stones unless it's a mythic item, those can't be deconned
    I don't see it as a cheese, any completed set costs the same 25 to make as you'll get back and this is by design. There's even other 1 piece sets like arena bows that can be used the same way. Not sure of the logic behind not allowing mythics to be deconned and there should definitely be a warning.

    I reconned wild hunt rings for all my characters thinking I could decon them if necessary, so was a bit disappointed when I discovered the hard way they couldn't be. I probably would've done it anyway because I love that ring, but it would've been nice to be able to make an informed decision beforehand
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  • katanagirl1
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    I always forget you get the transmutes back when deconning, and I am always at the cap so I lose those 25.
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