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Tales of Tribute exploit?

Jacozilla
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This has happened too many times to be random glitch - the scenario is -always- the same -->

1. I am winning quite obviously, we all know when we're in juggernaut position but not won by 40 points or patron victory yet. Repeat - neither party has anywhere close to 40, nor patron victory possible.

2. Suddenly, on opponents turn, game suddenly ends - and I get loss points on leaderboard position.

^^ Not ToT pro, only started ~month ago to earn achievements, but have played my way into leaderboard rank after all lower tiers climbed. But just in last couple weeks, have had the above scenario happen at least 7-8 times. It's almost every other day or so. (I play ~5-6 games per day)

Example of actual game stats where above instant game stop and loss points given to me:

a) game starts with Druid, Psijic, Crow, and Pelin decks
b) score is 17 - 10 in my favor, and I've laid out 6-7 druid agents, have more good cards coming - both my opponent and I know with this juggernaut, unless some 1% miracle happens, I will win.
c) At start of opponent turn, suddenly game stops, I am back at in-game screen, and my leaderboard position is dropped with negative loss points.

^^ I am not saying every game has this happen. Lots of naturally concluded, with 'good game' or other congrats tells, good sportsmanship conduct, etc. Overall nice community of Tot regular players. But - every single time this instant loss has happened, it was when I was winning by quite obvious margin and had overwhelming position.

There has never, not once, been a time when I was on way to a loss that this sudden game stoppage happened in my favor. If this was just some random glitch where the game bugs out, pure chance would favor me sometimes as well. But no - it is 100% only when I am in overwhelming advantage position, that this instant game stop and loss to my points happens.

So what is this? Some bug where it's just massive coincidence that it always favors my opponents and never happens to me when I'm losing for real? Or an exploit by some ToT players that can somehow force quit a game and have it won in their favor?

Question 2 - I didn't even know a ToT game could be halted now? I've googled old posts, and I know way in the past, there was some sort of concede or resign button/mechanics, but all elements of conceding or forfeiting seems to now be removed from the game. So question -> Is there some untold way a player can quit the game early? (in Jan 2026 as of this post)
  • ESO_player123
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    Do I understand correctly that you do not get the "Defeat" screen in these situations?
  • Calastir
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    Patron victory perhaps?

    And you can concede by pushing 'Escape' but then you lose leaderboard position, get a 10 minute penalty and no reward.
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  • JeroenB
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    I can't say I've noticed this.

    When you say "at start of opponent turn", do you mean immediately, without them playing any cards at all?

    Did you have the concession penalty or did you receive a normal loss reward? It somewhat sounds like there is something at your end that is inadvertently forcing a concession.

    As ESO_player123 asked, do you get the Defeat screen? That should tell you why you lost (points or patron). I'm not sure if it mentions anything specific if you concede, though.
  • DragonRacer
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    Defeat screen or kicked back to main menu? I have had issues where sometimes after ESO updates, my Internet connectivity to their servers is pretty okay, but I also have had stints after updates where their server dumps me back to main screen like a hot potato with great frequency. I will say it's a strange shared experience that when I was playing ToT very regularly, I also encountered great frequency in kicks back to the main menu almost always when I was leading a game and felt good/happy about it.

    After the latest few updates, my connectivity seems better but I also play ToT a lot less now because the described above experience was starting to drive me away from the whole game entirely.

    I do not know if there is some actual glitch/exploit or if it's just incredibly oddly specific bad timing for a server dump, but every time I have been dumped during ToT, 9 times out of 10 it's during a good match I am leading rather than one I could already tell I was destined to lose anyway.

    What's super fab is the server considering that a conscious disconnect and giving you the deserter penalty afterwards and not even a loser box. I didn't desert - your game kicked me off your servers. LOL
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