

Renato90085 wrote: »buff and food/pot wrong
Renato90085 wrote: »buff and food/pot wrong
I've done lava foot with weapon power pot and got similar results. Just because I didn't use the optimal food and pot can't possibly account for tens of thousands of dps loss
Renato90085 wrote: »buff and food/pot wrong
I've done lava foot with weapon power pot and got similar results. Just because I didn't use the optimal food and pot can't possibly account for tens of thousands of dps loss


Renato90085 wrote: »Renato90085 wrote: »buff and food/pot wrong
I've done lava foot with weapon power pot and got similar results. Just because I didn't use the optimal food and pot can't possibly account for tens of thousands of dps loss
missing major brutality/sorcery ,you need give up engulfing flames to swap a skill have this buffs,like Degeneration or make a
scribing dot,the trial dummy have 100% engulfing flames debuff work time so you dont need this
check your all passive(class/weapon guild/race)
and why dk run deadly..?
It's clear your DoT management is poor. Flames of Oblivion and Stampede both last 15 seconds, but you cast one 18 times and the other only 14. Other DoTs with the same duration, like Engulfing Flames, you only cast 3 times, but Venomous Claw 12 times.
Furthermore, your light attack weaving isn't good, and fewer light attacks reduce the chance of weapon Enchanting procs.
Additionally, a 21-meter training dummy provides major brutality/sorcery, so not using molten weapons is possible, but not in actual combat.
It's clear your DoT management is poor. Flames of Oblivion and Stampede both last 15 seconds, but you cast one 18 times and the other only 14. Other DoTs with the same duration, like Engulfing Flames, you only cast 3 times, but Venomous Claw 12 times.
Furthermore, your light attack weaving isn't good, and fewer light attacks reduce the chance of weapon Enchanting procs.
Additionally, a 21-meter training dummy provides major brutality/sorcery, so not using molten weapons is possible, but not in actual combat.
In the 84k NB parse, I only missed 1 light attack, but it says I wasted 25.8 seconds between skill casts. Many times it's hard to tell if I even cast a skill for the instants since there's no cooldown.
Renato90085 wrote: »Renato90085 wrote: »buff and food/pot wrong
I've done lava foot with weapon power pot and got similar results. Just because I didn't use the optimal food and pot can't possibly account for tens of thousands of dps loss
missing major brutality/sorcery ,you need give up engulfing flames to swap a skill have this buffs,like Degeneration or make a
scribing dot,the trial dummy have 100% engulfing flames debuff work time so you dont need this
check your all passive(class/weapon guild/race)
and why dk run deadly..?
Deadly gives you 15% damage bonus to DoTs


No it doesn't. It gives the minor buffsAdditionally, a 21-meter training dummy provides major brutality/sorcery, so not using molten weapons is possible, but not in actual combat.
Miss for LA means you hit two LAs in a row, just like miss on a skill means you hit another skill after it instead of a LA
I'm not sure what the "miss" for light attack means, but it's the skills you should be looking at. In the parse you're referencing, you missed 31 light attacks before surprise attack.
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Ansuul may not be the meta but it is far from useless. It still has a strong flat % to monsters which is competitive and universal to all builds.Ansuul is useless on trial dummy because you are penetration capped and can't interrupt it.
Renato90085 wrote: »Renato90085 wrote: »Renato90085 wrote: »buff and food/pot wrong
I've done lava foot with weapon power pot and got similar results. Just because I didn't use the optimal food and pot can't possibly account for tens of thousands of dps loss
missing major brutality/sorcery ,you need give up engulfing flames to swap a skill have this buffs,like Degeneration or make a
scribing dot,the trial dummy have 100% engulfing flames debuff work time so you dont need this
check your all passive(class/weapon guild/race)
and why dk run deadly..?
Deadly gives you 15% damage bonus to DoTs
dot percentage is not high..most dot maybe doing 5-7k dps,the arc/templar use Deadly main is need channeled attacks 15%.
dps mean dmg per sec,so if you did some mistick,spend to many time the dps will be low,
also,for nightblade,yes you miss too many light attack,your highest dps skill,grim focus need stack from light attack,so if you miss more light attack mean shot more few time bow,it a very big dps lost
This is the parse I just done in pts,you can see we have same hit to grim focus(28 and 32),but i only parse 2.5min,you are 4 min,if you can did more lightattack and do more bow,it will be more high you shot more bow,same time doing more dps,it main reason nb and sorc is the only 2 class for require good weave,they good skill need light attack stack.
I personally think your nightblade biggest problem right now is skill/light attack weave
PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »Your weaving isn't great but it's good enough for velothi. Your cast cadance is also ok, anything under .2 is decent under .15 is good, under .1 is very good.
You have some small suboptimal choice like food, gear (deadly on a whip dk is not the best choice) and those little things do add up. However as you note that shouldn't account for the big gap you're seeing. I'm not familiar with the specific builds you're using but I would guess you are not properly sequencing your casts to get the best value. Not having major brutality is a big issue on the dk parse.
I assume those heavy attacks in your parse are actually slightly overheld light attacks but that is also an issue. If they are actual HAs for reaources then it's a big issue.No it doesn't. It gives the minor buffsAdditionally, a 21-meter training dummy provides major brutality/sorcery, so not using molten weapons is possible, but not in actual combat.Miss for LA means you hit two LAs in a row, just like miss on a skill means you hit another skill after it instead of a LA
I'm not sure what the "miss" for light attack means, but it's the skills you should be looking at. In the parse you're referencing, you missed 31 light attacks before surprise attack.
.Ansuul may not be the meta but it is far from useless. It still has a strong flat % to monsters which is competitive and universal to all builds.Ansuul is useless on trial dummy because you are penetration capped and can't interrupt it.
Renato90085 wrote: »Renato90085 wrote: »Renato90085 wrote: »buff and food/pot wrong
I've done lava foot with weapon power pot and got similar results. Just because I didn't use the optimal food and pot can't possibly account for tens of thousands of dps loss
missing major brutality/sorcery ,you need give up engulfing flames to swap a skill have this buffs,like Degeneration or make a
scribing dot,the trial dummy have 100% engulfing flames debuff work time so you dont need this
check your all passive(class/weapon guild/race)
and why dk run deadly..?
Deadly gives you 15% damage bonus to DoTs
dot percentage is not high..most dot maybe doing 5-7k dps,the arc/templar use Deadly main is need channeled attacks 15%.
dps mean dmg per sec,so if you did some mistick,spend to many time the dps will be low,
also,for nightblade,yes you miss too many light attack,your highest dps skill,grim focus need stack from light attack,so if you miss more light attack mean shot more few time bow,it a very big dps lost
This is the parse I just done in pts,you can see we have same hit to grim focus(28 and 32),but i only parse 2.5min,you are 4 min,if you can did more lightattack and do more bow,it will be more high you shot more bow,same time doing more dps,it main reason nb and sorc is the only 2 class for require good weave,they good skill need light attack stack.
I personally think your nightblade biggest problem right now is skill/light attack weave
What do you mean by dot percentage is not high? I thought most dk damage is dots
it not mean you only miss 1 light attack , the blue circle,weapon attack mean light attack so you all missed 96 light attack,skill mean you total skill,there 31 mean in 72 surprise attacks,you miss 31 time light attack(the weave rule is >skill+light)but you are running Velothi,so you not lost many light attack dmg here,main lost from bow cant shot because it need lightattack stackPeacefulAnarchy wrote: »Your weaving isn't great but it's good enough for velothi. Your cast cadance is also ok, anything under .2 is decent under .15 is good, under .1 is very good.
You have some small suboptimal choice like food, gear (deadly on a whip dk is not the best choice) and those little things do add up. However as you note that shouldn't account for the big gap you're seeing. I'm not familiar with the specific builds you're using but I would guess you are not properly sequencing your casts to get the best value. Not having major brutality is a big issue on the dk parse.
I assume those heavy attacks in your parse are actually slightly overheld light attacks but that is also an issue. If they are actual HAs for reaources then it's a big issue.No it doesn't. It gives the minor buffsAdditionally, a 21-meter training dummy provides major brutality/sorcery, so not using molten weapons is possible, but not in actual combat.Miss for LA means you hit two LAs in a row, just like miss on a skill means you hit another skill after it instead of a LA
I'm not sure what the "miss" for light attack means, but it's the skills you should be looking at. In the parse you're referencing, you missed 31 light attacks before surprise attack.
.Ansuul may not be the meta but it is far from useless. It still has a strong flat % to monsters which is competitive and universal to all builds.Ansuul is useless on trial dummy because you are penetration capped and can't interrupt it.
So in the NB parse, it says I missed 1 light attack, but missed 31 surprise attacks. Could you break down what that means exactly?


Renato90085 wrote: »it not mean you only miss 1 light attack , the blue circle,weapon attack mean light attack so you all missed 96 light attack,skill mean you total skill,there 31 mean in 72 surprise attacks,you miss 31 time light attack(the weave rule is >skill+light)but you are running Velothi,so you not lost many light attack dmg here,main lost from bow cant shot because it need lightattack stackPeacefulAnarchy wrote: »Your weaving isn't great but it's good enough for velothi. Your cast cadance is also ok, anything under .2 is decent under .15 is good, under .1 is very good.
You have some small suboptimal choice like food, gear (deadly on a whip dk is not the best choice) and those little things do add up. However as you note that shouldn't account for the big gap you're seeing. I'm not familiar with the specific builds you're using but I would guess you are not properly sequencing your casts to get the best value. Not having major brutality is a big issue on the dk parse.
I assume those heavy attacks in your parse are actually slightly overheld light attacks but that is also an issue. If they are actual HAs for reaources then it's a big issue.No it doesn't. It gives the minor buffsAdditionally, a 21-meter training dummy provides major brutality/sorcery, so not using molten weapons is possible, but not in actual combat.Miss for LA means you hit two LAs in a row, just like miss on a skill means you hit another skill after it instead of a LA
I'm not sure what the "miss" for light attack means, but it's the skills you should be looking at. In the parse you're referencing, you missed 31 light attacks before surprise attack.
.Ansuul may not be the meta but it is far from useless. It still has a strong flat % to monsters which is competitive and universal to all builds.Ansuul is useless on trial dummy because you are penetration capped and can't interrupt it.
So in the NB parse, it says I missed 1 light attack, but missed 31 surprise attacks. Could you break down what that means exactly?
Renato90085 wrote: »it not mean you only miss 1 light attack , the blue circle,weapon attack mean light attack so you all missed 96 light attack,skill mean you total skill,there 31 mean in 72 surprise attacks,you miss 31 time light attack(the weave rule is >skill+light)but you are running Velothi,so you not lost many light attack dmg here,main lost from bow cant shot because it need lightattack stackPeacefulAnarchy wrote: »Your weaving isn't great but it's good enough for velothi. Your cast cadance is also ok, anything under .2 is decent under .15 is good, under .1 is very good.
You have some small suboptimal choice like food, gear (deadly on a whip dk is not the best choice) and those little things do add up. However as you note that shouldn't account for the big gap you're seeing. I'm not familiar with the specific builds you're using but I would guess you are not properly sequencing your casts to get the best value. Not having major brutality is a big issue on the dk parse.
I assume those heavy attacks in your parse are actually slightly overheld light attacks but that is also an issue. If they are actual HAs for reaources then it's a big issue.No it doesn't. It gives the minor buffsAdditionally, a 21-meter training dummy provides major brutality/sorcery, so not using molten weapons is possible, but not in actual combat.Miss for LA means you hit two LAs in a row, just like miss on a skill means you hit another skill after it instead of a LA
I'm not sure what the "miss" for light attack means, but it's the skills you should be looking at. In the parse you're referencing, you missed 31 light attacks before surprise attack.
.Ansuul may not be the meta but it is far from useless. It still has a strong flat % to monsters which is competitive and universal to all builds.Ansuul is useless on trial dummy because you are penetration capped and can't interrupt it.
So in the NB parse, it says I missed 1 light attack, but missed 31 surprise attacks. Could you break down what that means exactly?
I see now, it makes sense and Nightblade is an even better example because of not firing relentless focus bow often enough, which requires light attack stacks as you said. So I guess I was right-most of my dps loss is from bad weaving rather than suboptimal gear. If the weaving was perfect, it would be 100k+ parse easily. I don't have that parse saved to where I can scroll to the bottom and see the light attacks on that list.
I re-cast a lot of skills before their cooldowns are entirely finished, like when there's 2-3 seconds remaining on the cooldown.
I can't tell if I'm missing light attacks from trying to cast too fast, or casting too slow.