What is the purpose of the Armory system?

Chaebol · January 17

Armory slots are currently on sale.
But once Season Zero starts, you can change your stats and skills for free, and even save them using addons, so I don't see why you'd need to buy armory slots.

wolfie1.0. · January 17

Chaebol wrote: »

Armory slots are currently on sale.
But once Season Zero starts, you can change your stats and skills for free, and even save them using addons, so I don't see why you'd need to buy armory slots.

Armory slots allow you to save your full build. That includes gear, cp, skills, attributes, mundus, even slotted potions and assistants.

Ui skill and attribute resets dont include all of that.

Chaebol · January 17

Currently the addon can save gear, skills, cp and potions.
Once Season Zero begins, you can reset and save skills and attributes via the addon, which is no different from the current Armory. There's no reason to purchase an Armory slot simply to save Mundus.

ESO_player123 · January 17

You can also save curses (vamp/werewolf) in an Armory slot.

BardokRedSnow · January 17

Chaebol wrote: »

Currently the addon can save gear, skills, cp and potions.
Once Season Zero begins, you can reset and save skills and attributes via the addon, which is no different from the current Armory. There's no reason to purchase an Armory slot simply to save Mundus.

The addons are glitchy, especially inbetween updates assuming you mean dressing room. If there's a more up to date addon im not sure but yea for that reason I still use the armory.

Chaebol · January 17

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

Chaebol wrote: »

Currently the addon can save gear, skills, cp and potions.
Once Season Zero begins, you can reset and save skills and attributes via the addon, which is no different from the current Armory. There's no reason to purchase an Armory slot simply to save Mundus.

The addons are glitchy, especially inbetween updates assuming you mean dressing room. If there's a more up to date addon im not sure but yea for that reason I still use the armory.

Even just looking at the users currently streaming, they seem to be using addons like the Wizard Wardrobe more than the Armory system. Addons will continue to be updated, while the Armory system won't, so no matter how much I think about it, I can't see the need for the latter.

richo262 · January 17

Even if you can change your Stats / Skills on the fly you may not be able to change CP, Mundus, Vamp / WW and Gear as easily.

Personally I think the armory assistant was a mistake, and I hope they continue to go down this path and eventually refund (or compensate in another way) those that purchased the armory assistants and remove them from the game. Instead introduce a system that rivals the addons and lets you swap out full load outs on the fly. Putting such functionality behind an assistant already makes it inferior to in many respects, to existing addons.

Much like we can change between our saved outfits from a drop down menu, but we need to go to an outfit station to make adjustments. The armory system should be similar.

Chaebol · January 17

richo262 wrote: »

Even if you can change your Stats / Skills on the fly you may not be able to change CP, Mundus, Vamp / WW and Gear as easily.

Personally I think the armory assistant was a mistake, and I hope they continue to go down this path and eventually refund (or compensate in another way) those that purchased the armory assistants and remove them from the game. Instead introduce a system that rivals the addons and lets you swap out full load outs on the fly. Putting such functionality behind an assistant already makes it inferior to in many respects, to existing addons.

Much like we can change between our saved outfits from a drop down menu, but we need to go to an outfit station to make adjustments. The armory system should be similar.

I don't understand why they're trying to make the existing armory system useless when it would be better to allow changing stats and skills for free through armory rather than through the UI.
I think it might also solve the score-related issues currently being discussed in PTS.

Yudo · January 17

They are not trying to make armory useless, they are just adding QoL to re-spec.
Yes this will make addons potentially more powerful, but armoury can still save the curse and mundus.
The real appeal for addons has been before armory existed and mid-content gear swapping, which the armory does not allow in leaderboard content, so you cannot use it in that way.

If you like the addon, I guess it will serve you just fine. I rather not install yet another addon if the base game provides it.
I do agree the armory should be more competitive though. I am hoping they'll eventually add scribing skills to it too which will make it suddenly very attractive.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · January 17

Armoury system allows you to change your entire build (minus scribing) at once with 1 click.
The UI respec will require multiple clicks and wont change mundus or affliction.
Additionally to mimic the functionality you would need to manually change: skills, attributes, CP, place the different abilities on your bar, swap things on your quick slots, change your outfit, equip new gear sets. So it saves you quite a bit of time.

richo262 · January 17

They really need to make scribed skills bound to the character / account and not the build.

My biggest gripe with the the scribing system is it is so easy for the armory system to wipe the scribed skills unless you keep tabs on everything.

Chaebol · January 17

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Armoury system allows you to change your entire build (minus scribing) at once with 1 click.
The UI respec will require multiple clicks and wont change mundus or affliction.
Additionally to mimic the functionality you would need to manually change: skills, attributes, CP, place the different abilities on your bar, swap things on your quick slots, change your outfit, equip new gear sets. So it saves you quite a bit of time.

What you're talking about is what the current Wizard Wardrobe addon does, except for Mundus. I've also seen other people using the addon to change stats and skills with one click in PTS.

RexyCat · January 17

Chaebol wrote: »

Currently the addon can save gear, skills, cp and potions.
Once Season Zero begins, you can reset and save skills and attributes via the addon, which is no different from the current Armory. There's no reason to purchase an Armory slot simply to save Mundus.

Most Guild have also Mundus stones in Guild Hall, so it doesn't take that much time to change Mundus.

DenverRalphy · January 17

You can already respec your stats and skills completely for free by utilizing the armory system by keeping one armory slot completely empty of all stats and skills. The only thing changing is ZOS' opinion as to how easily it can be done.