Overland Content Feedback Thread

ZOS_Kevin · January 16

Seraphayel wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote:

Hi there! This is in progress, and we are actually reviewing article copy for an update about this that will be going out in the next couple weeks. It is still planned for the Season Zero timeframe. It's worth noting that Seasons are a bit different than traditional updates in that there will be content releasing throughout the Season, not just all at once at the beginning.

I saw this on Reddit so I figured that I would share it here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/pwKnulsJDz

Thank you very much, I appreciate communication on all channels, but something like this should always be found on the forum.

I mean four days ago I asked exactly this and even quoted Kevin.

Sorry I missed the quote! My feeds have been filled with PTS feedback. FWIW, the article work for Overland Difficulty started a few days ago. So I probably wouldn’t have been able to directly answer when you reached out.

Tariq9898 · January 17

Good to hear! I’ve been holding off on doing the entire Daedric War story arc starting in Vvardenfell. Excited to jump back into questing when this is released!!

shadoza · January 17

Can we have test dummies at the level of overland content? Like the different levels of WBs.
I am only finding dummies for vet dungeons and really tough trials. This doesn't make sense to me as it suggests that the Development team believes only end-gamers and groupies care about their output.
I would also like a dummy that fights back so I can test my healer and tank.

spartaxoxo · January 17

shadoza wrote: »

Can we have test dummies at the level of overland content? Like the different levels of WBs.
I am only finding dummies for vet dungeons and really tough trials. This doesn't make sense to me as it suggests that the Development team believes only end-gamers and groupies care about their output.
I would also like a dummy that fights back so I can test my healer and tank.

There's also the precursor dummy. It's just an overland mob with more HP (around 300k). It won't be accurate for what you do in group content but it will be good enough if you're just curious about killing overland stuff.

mocap · January 17

We still don't know mobs resistances in increased difficulty.

Need to know exactly what it will be - is it armor that can be reduced via major/minor breach, or are those %resists that cannot be reduced in any way.

ESO_player123 · January 18

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Can we have test dummies at the level of overland content? Like the different levels of WBs.
I am only finding dummies for vet dungeons and really tough trials. This doesn't make sense to me as it suggests that the Development team believes only end-gamers and groupies care about their output.
I would also like a dummy that fights back so I can test my healer and tank.

There's also the precursor dummy. It's just an overland mob with more HP (around 300k). It won't be accurate for what you do in group content but it will be good enough if you're just curious about killing overland stuff.

There are also some dummies sold for writ vouchers that can be useful.

AlexanderDeLarge · January 18

shadoza wrote: »

Fruity_Ninja wrote: »

Hi ZOS team good to hear about Overland Difficulty coming in some format in 2026, well done!

One thing to think about, is there are other games out there where some ‘sections’ of a zone are Elite/Hard Mode type content. It’s a really good way to create overland group content, where people group up in zone chat to farm/grind in those areas.

You guys had this with Craglorn back in the day, it was such a good zone before it was nerfed. PUG teams just coordinating to go through Craglorn quests/bosses/delves. After it was nerfed Craglorn literally just became a dead zone used for grinding Spellscar.

You are suggesting that ZOS exclude non-grouping players from a zone?

Sure, why not? There's like 40 zones in the game. Craglorn and Murkmire reverting to their "Adventure Zone" status would hardly move the needle in either direction.

Now that the game features a NPC companion system there's even less reason to argue against this.

LunaFlora · January 18

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Fruity_Ninja wrote: »

Hi ZOS team good to hear about Overland Difficulty coming in some format in 2026, well done!

One thing to think about, is there are other games out there where some ‘sections’ of a zone are Elite/Hard Mode type content. It’s a really good way to create overland group content, where people group up in zone chat to farm/grind in those areas.

You guys had this with Craglorn back in the day, it was such a good zone before it was nerfed. PUG teams just coordinating to go through Craglorn quests/bosses/delves. After it was nerfed Craglorn literally just became a dead zone used for grinding Spellscar.

You are suggesting that ZOS exclude non-grouping players from a zone?

Sure, why not? There's like 40 zones in the game. Craglorn and Murkmire reverting to their "Adventure Zone" status would hardly move the needle in either direction.

Now that the game features a NPC companion system there's even less reason to argue against this.

Craglorn is an adventure zone and was made easier.
Murkmire was not released as an adventure zone, it is just like most other zones. why mention it?

The Night Market seems like a challenging zone akin to 2014 Craglorn.
And with optional overland difficulty, Craglorn could be more challenging again.

shadoza · January 19

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Fruity_Ninja wrote: »

Hi ZOS team good to hear about Overland Difficulty coming in some format in 2026, well done!

One thing to think about, is there are other games out there where some ‘sections’ of a zone are Elite/Hard Mode type content. It’s a really good way to create overland group content, where people group up in zone chat to farm/grind in those areas.

You guys had this with Craglorn back in the day, it was such a good zone before it was nerfed. PUG teams just coordinating to go through Craglorn quests/bosses/delves. After it was nerfed Craglorn literally just became a dead zone used for grinding Spellscar.

You are suggesting that ZOS exclude non-grouping players from a zone?

Sure, why not? There's like 40 zones in the game. Craglorn and Murkmire reverting to their "Adventure Zone" status would hardly move the needle in either direction.

Now that the game features a NPC companion system there's even less reason to argue against this.

Development team state they did not want to separate players. Group-only zones separate players.
Groups can play the entire map save the main story. Solo players are left out of group dungeons, most trials, and some WB / dolmen-like events. You think it a good play to leave them out more?

Are you willing to pay more for those exclusive zones?

BagOfBadgers · January 19

shadoza wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Fruity_Ninja wrote: »

Hi ZOS team good to hear about Overland Difficulty coming in some format in 2026, well done!

One thing to think about, is there are other games out there where some ‘sections’ of a zone are Elite/Hard Mode type content. It’s a really good way to create overland group content, where people group up in zone chat to farm/grind in those areas.

You guys had this with Craglorn back in the day, it was such a good zone before it was nerfed. PUG teams just coordinating to go through Craglorn quests/bosses/delves. After it was nerfed Craglorn literally just became a dead zone used for grinding Spellscar.

You are suggesting that ZOS exclude non-grouping players from a zone?

Sure, why not? There's like 40 zones in the game. Craglorn and Murkmire reverting to their "Adventure Zone" status would hardly move the needle in either direction.

Now that the game features a NPC companion system there's even less reason to argue against this.

Development team state they did not want to separate players. Group-only zones separate players. I don't think this is the best answer as us Elites will still be in the zone with you, ruining your experiance, allegedly.

Groups can play the entire map save the main story. Solo players are left out of group dungeons, most trials, and some WB / dolmen-like events. You think it a good play to leave them out more? I get no enjoyment from solo stories, do you think it's OK to leave me out more?

Are you willing to pay more for those exclusive zones?

I don't use housing, can I get a discount?

TBH I think separation is the way forward as it will remove your conflict with high level players, as we can zoom about and kill stuff quick with no impact on you and your friends playstyle.

shadoza · January 19

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

spartaxoxo · January 19

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

What? There are a ton of solo stories in this game. There is also solo content of medium (arc 2-3, normal mode solo arenas) and hard difficulty (arc 4+, vet solo arena) and that stuff is designed from the ground up for solo players. Solo players can also solo many of the game's dungeons. The higher the skill level the more of them they can solo.

BagOfBadgers · January 19

TBH is just a turn of phrase, it's equal to “in my opinion” in my parlance.

There are many solo stories, each zone/SOLO arena/Delve/Public Dungeon, etc, has a SOLO story, it's the depth that is the only variant. So saying there is only one, is false.

Allow me to point out that we all own this conflict/issue. I and others modify our overworld play style so that has no to little impact on others. I want a good overworld experience for all and at the momement it's not. From others playing how they want and the way that impacts you and your friends negativity, too me and others not able to go full bore and use our skills, as button press and ,oh, it's dead is not impactful or rewarding, as we do consider others enjoyment.

Can you see that for some the story is equal/less than housing/PvP/PvE/RP/ERP and others? I respect that the story is your main focus, but I don't respect you for the derision you show for anyone that doesn't agree with you. What's group for you is SOLO for many others, and who knows, may become SOLO for you in time and then you might change your prospective?

I still remember my 1st SOLO WB/World event/Delve/Public Dungeon, Dungeon/Vet Dungeon nd repeat that for the DLCs to and I thought that I would never be able to do any of that.

I'll repeat what I have said before. There is narrative that us Elites/High End players ruin the experience of other, but when we suggest a fix for it, you know, Vet overland, the same group proffer that it's a waste of ZOS's time and money, in spite of the fact that it would remove the majority of issues for us being Elites/High End in the normal level instance.

Tonight I'll be in a group that is proging vCR+1/2/3 and I can tell you 100% that at some point all of us in that group never thought we would be doing what we do now, let alone SOLO stuff overland. I would offer to help you get there but I already know the answer.

It's a MMO so there has to be group content but there's actual SOLO, by ZOS's design, content in ESO. ZOS's do recognise that everyone is at a different skill levels, due to multiple reason and try and tries to accommodate all, for good or bad. I want you to have the best experience you can why can't me an others have to same?

shadoza · January 20

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

What? There are a ton of solo stories in this game. There is also solo content of medium (arc 2-3, normal mode solo arenas) and hard difficulty (arc 4+, vet solo arena) and that stuff is designed from the ground up for solo players. Solo players can also solo many of the game's dungeons. The higher the skill level the more of them they can solo.

Not a solo story if a group can do the quests, yes? The only solo story is the main story where all the dungeons are solo. Going into the harborage is solo. That is what I mean. I am not saying that only one story can be done solo; I am saying that only one story MUST be done solo.

shadoza · January 20

MMO does not mean co-op. It means that many players share a map. Nothing about MMO states one must group with others. Why is this difficult to understand? Co-op groups. MMO share a map.

spartaxoxo · January 20

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

What? There are a ton of solo stories in this game. There is also solo content of medium (arc 2-3, normal mode solo arenas) and hard difficulty (arc 4+, vet solo arena) and that stuff is designed from the ground up for solo players. Solo players can also solo many of the game's dungeons. The higher the skill level the more of them they can solo.

Not a solo story if a group can do the quests, yes? The only solo story is the main story where all the dungeons are solo. Going into the harborage is solo. That is what I mean. I am not saying that only one story can be done solo; I am saying that only one story MUST be done solo.

The content is balanced for solo though. So it is a solo story. I can solo a lot of the dungeons, but those are still group content. They let us play the way we want where we can but there's definitely content specifically balanced and designed for solo play and content specifically balanced and designed for groups. Most of the quests are designed to be done solo.

shadoza · January 20

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

What? There are a ton of solo stories in this game. There is also solo content of medium (arc 2-3, normal mode solo arenas) and hard difficulty (arc 4+, vet solo arena) and that stuff is designed from the ground up for solo players. Solo players can also solo many of the game's dungeons. The higher the skill level the more of them they can solo.

Not a solo story if a group can do the quests, yes? The only solo story is the main story where all the dungeons are solo. Going into the harborage is solo. That is what I mean. I am not saying that only one story can be done solo; I am saying that only one story MUST be done solo.

The content is balanced for solo though. So it is a solo story. I can solo a lot of the dungeons, but those are still group content. They let us play the way we want where we can but there's definitely content specifically balanced and designed for solo play and content specifically balanced and designed for groups. Most of the quests are designed to be done solo.

I disagree with your concept of what can be done in groups. Disagreeing with different ideas is not taking this conversation any further than where it has been. Better we agree that we cannot agree on what the definition of what can be done with groups is.

Seraphayel · January 20

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

Somehow I missed it, but what's your point? I mean what are we discussing here? Couldn't find the original conflict.

spartaxoxo · January 20

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

What? There are a ton of solo stories in this game. There is also solo content of medium (arc 2-3, normal mode solo arenas) and hard difficulty (arc 4+, vet solo arena) and that stuff is designed from the ground up for solo players. Solo players can also solo many of the game's dungeons. The higher the skill level the more of them they can solo.

Not a solo story if a group can do the quests, yes? The only solo story is the main story where all the dungeons are solo. Going into the harborage is solo. That is what I mean. I am not saying that only one story can be done solo; I am saying that only one story MUST be done solo.

The content is balanced for solo though. So it is a solo story. I can solo a lot of the dungeons, but those are still group content. They let us play the way we want where we can but there's definitely content specifically balanced and designed for solo play and content specifically balanced and designed for groups. Most of the quests are designed to be done solo.

I disagree with your concept of what can be done in groups. Disagreeing with different ideas is not taking this conversation any further than where it has been. Better we agree that we cannot agree on what the definition of what can be done with groups is.

I'm sorry. I'm genuinely confused here. What do you mean by this statement? Do you mean dungeons are not group content to you? Or that quests can't be done with friends? Or am I missing something?

shadoza · January 20

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

What? There are a ton of solo stories in this game. There is also solo content of medium (arc 2-3, normal mode solo arenas) and hard difficulty (arc 4+, vet solo arena) and that stuff is designed from the ground up for solo players. Solo players can also solo many of the game's dungeons. The higher the skill level the more of them they can solo.

Not a solo story if a group can do the quests, yes? The only solo story is the main story where all the dungeons are solo. Going into the harborage is solo. That is what I mean. I am not saying that only one story can be done solo; I am saying that only one story MUST be done solo.

The content is balanced for solo though. So it is a solo story. I can solo a lot of the dungeons, but those are still group content. They let us play the way we want where we can but there's definitely content specifically balanced and designed for solo play and content specifically balanced and designed for groups. Most of the quests are designed to be done solo.

I disagree with your concept of what can be done in groups. Disagreeing with different ideas is not taking this conversation any further than where it has been. Better we agree that we cannot agree on what the definition of what can be done with groups is.

I'm sorry. I'm genuinely confused here. What do you mean by this statement? Do you mean dungeons are not group content to you? Or that quests can't be done with friends? Or am I missing something?

I am saying that a player that groups can do so with all the content save the harborage dungeons/visits.

sshogrin · January 20

As a player that has played since the very beginning Beta release, I remember when base zones were "leveled" and if you wanted resources of a certain level, you had to go to that zone to get it. Craglorn had the top tier resources like Rubedite, Ancestor Silk, etc. They had recommended levels for a character to do content.

Maybe that's how they should do this if that's what some people want and some people don't want.

Extra rewards for people that want to toggle a higher difficulty switch I think is a bit much...remember, the people that wanted things to be harder want it to be harder. The forum threads on that mentioned nothing about getting extra rewards...maybe make gear drops in purple quality for doing quests and delves, higher quality out of chests, etc., but don't create new rewards/drops for a higher difficulty toggle switch.

spartaxoxo · January 20

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

TBH, being dismissive and passive aggressive is not helping anyone.
There is only ONE solo story and that is the main story. Even then only the dungeon is a solo event.
Allow me to point out that I do not own that conflict. It is real and it makes people angry enough to not play more.
Housing is a side hustle, a zone is part of the game progression. Can you see the difference?

What? There are a ton of solo stories in this game. There is also solo content of medium (arc 2-3, normal mode solo arenas) and hard difficulty (arc 4+, vet solo arena) and that stuff is designed from the ground up for solo players. Solo players can also solo many of the game's dungeons. The higher the skill level the more of them they can solo.

Not a solo story if a group can do the quests, yes? The only solo story is the main story where all the dungeons are solo. Going into the harborage is solo. That is what I mean. I am not saying that only one story can be done solo; I am saying that only one story MUST be done solo.

The content is balanced for solo though. So it is a solo story. I can solo a lot of the dungeons, but those are still group content. They let us play the way we want where we can but there's definitely content specifically balanced and designed for solo play and content specifically balanced and designed for groups. Most of the quests are designed to be done solo.

I disagree with your concept of what can be done in groups. Disagreeing with different ideas is not taking this conversation any further than where it has been. Better we agree that we cannot agree on what the definition of what can be done with groups is.

I'm sorry. I'm genuinely confused here. What do you mean by this statement? Do you mean dungeons are not group content to you? Or that quests can't be done with friends? Or am I missing something?

I am saying that a player that groups can do so with all the content save the harborage dungeons/visits.

I never said otherwise? A player who solos can likewise do all content except trials (with a few exceptions) is the point I was trying to get across. I don't disagree that groups can do quests. Sorry that was unclear.