ZOS - if you are going to allow bots then what are crafters supposed to do?

Tavore1138 · May 2014

I guess ZOS own the game - if they have cut deals with bot sites to profit off us then that is their choice.

But... as a crafter how am I supposed to get materials? All decent nodes are camped by bots and now they are in VR.

Please answer as otherwise it is easy to assume you people are doing the botting yourselves ready for the PC version to die so you can launch a working game to console players.

Or are you shilling for the scum that used the dupe bug - so they can sell us the materials you can't get in the game any more?

I wish I'd known how dishonest ZOS were before subscribing.

Bangstin · May 2014

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO · May 2014

Find any potency runes lately?

Bots took all mine. About 20 levels worth.

BenjaminKacher_ESO · May 2014

In B4 closed.

Hearts · May 2014

So, you see bots in the game, then you assume that ZOS are letting them be there and not working against them, then you assume that ZOS is making a deal with them, then you assume that ZOS are them.

You are mad with your own imagination of how ZOS is, not on how ZOS actually is.

ciannait · May 2014

Hearts wrote: »

So, you see bots in the game, then you assume that ZOS are letting them be there and not working against them, then you assume that ZOS is making a deal with them, then you assume that ZOS are them.

You are mad with your own imagination of how ZOS is, not on how ZOS actually is.

Yes, but from our perspective it seems like ZOS is trying to drain the sea with a thimble. A lot of "we're working on it" for not a lot of results. I can absolutely understand how it's frustrating for the paying customer.

Tavore1138 · May 2014

Hearts wrote: »

So, you see bots in the game, then you assume that ZOS are letting them be there and not working against them, then you assume that ZOS is making a deal with them, then you assume that ZOS are them.

You are mad with your own imagination of how ZOS is, not on how ZOS actually is.

I tend to assume if I have used the defined method to report bots for 4 straight days and the bots are still operating... to mean that ZOS do not care.

You can be as snotty as you want Mr Frior, or servant thereof, but bots are still damaging my game.

Phinix1 · May 2014

Conspiracy theories get such a bad rap, probably because most of them are poorly rationalized and filled with pharmaceutical-induced paranoia.

However, if you want to hash out a good one, listen to John Lennon and "follow the money." Ask yourself, how does the company (ZOS) stand to gain by allowing the bots?

As I have said before, it is a bean counting game. If the amount they make on accounts and monthly subscriptions of bots/gold farmers is greater than the amount they lose from legitimate subscribers cancelling due to (perceived) lack of action against bots, they will allow the bots. If so many customers choose to quit paying until they solve the bot problem that it starts costing them more than the loss of income from the banning of massive numbers of bot accounts, they'll ban the bots. Simple as that.

They are a business like any other in this materialistic world, and the suits at the top care about one thing and one thing ONLY, and that is THEIR MONEY. The artists involved in the game may have a slightly more idealistic view but they are hardly in control of these things.

Now, to be fair let's play the flip-side. Based on an equal body of evidence (read: non-existent) you have to admit that another possible theory would be that you yourself were a botter/gold farmer and saw your own accounts banned in the latest wave, and now seek to besmirch the company's good name by coming onto the forums and making public accusations about them being in league with the botters.

Either way there is no evidence we are privy to, so the point is moot.

I for one have started to Fraps every bot train I come across so I can make a list of what days and levels I encounter specific bot names, and compare it over time to see if I ever run into the same name or account again. By the end of this month I should have a very compelling case to make one way or the other, based on actual quantifiable data not rampant speculation, however rational.