NEW DK DRAGONBLOOD

iyx · January 13

Honestly I was pleasantly surprised by the new visuals for Dragon's Blood. Concept is cool, but I think it still needs some adjustments.

1. Remove that floating heart. Iconograpics hovering above character's head looks boring, too similar of most others MMOs visuals, and completely out of ESO visual concept. Please don't add floating iconographics for other classes rework.

2. Place that heart in the ribcage, where it belongs. Make it glow more brightly for better readability. Think white-hot metal for exampe. Something like that:

4. Make the effect longer! It should last the entire duration of the ability; right now, it's disappointingly short.

3. Add a heartbeat sound throughout the effect's duration, similar as old version. It always reminded me of the Heart of Lorkhan, and served as a cool complement to the whole ancient, earthy, and volcanic theme of the Dragon Knight. It also personally helped me hear when the effect ends, as I have a hard time always relying on visual indicators due to eyesight issues.

MXVIIDREAM · January 13

I have a funny feeling or in at least hopeful the heart is meant to be in the chest like it was before and this is a visual bug just like the wings

iyx · January 13

I doubt it's a bug, the heart is too big. But I still don't understand the logic behind this design, if the heart is floating above the head, then what's glowing from inside the chest?

MXVIIDREAM · January 13

I really hope it’s a bug lol The skill is great but the animation is really unsightly with the heart there

Vaqual · January 13

The transparency being gone is a huge upgrade. But I am not 100 % sure that the chest pound is worth that sudden weapon stow on the back that is played for some weapons. Wasn't there a more elegant way of doing this? Spoils the improvement a little.

MXVIIDREAM · January 13

Vaqual wrote: »

The transparency being gone is a huge upgrade. But I am not 100 % sure that the chest pound is worth that sudden weapon stow on the back that is played for some weapons. Wasn't there a more elegant way of doing this? Spoils the improvement a little.

I don’t use group toggles unless in serious group content, having a heart flying around over my head is distracting for me (adhd) and actually really triggering, several others and myself have all had the same instant reaction which is a shame because the rest of the animation is beautiful

MXVIIDREAM · January 13

If they removed the weird floating heart above it then that would be perfect

HatchetHaro · January 13

I fully agree with points 1, 2, and 3 here. Defo not the continuous sound, though.

NuclearPath · January 13

HatchetHaro wrote: »

I fully agree with points 1, 2, and 3 here. Defo not the continuous sound, though.

Hi Hatchet. We heard your feedback and therefore have decided to remove Argonian from the game. Anyway yeah I also like this idea but as a DK main I actually kinda liked the old effect. New one is cool don't get me wrong (minus the heart... idk if that's intentional or not but why is it up there) but I actually really liked the full body effect, but I seem to be alone in that.

MXVIIDREAM · January 13

HatchetHaro wrote: »

I fully agree with points 1, 2, and 3 here. Defo not the continuous sound, though.

The sound would be too much but yeah it looks either bugged like it should be in your toon or it’s just a poor choice that alot of people are hoping will be adjusted

iyx · January 13

HatchetHaro wrote: »

I fully agree with points 1, 2, and 3 here. Defo not the continuous sound, though.

Damn, I just noticed that somehow messed up numbers of the points

iyx · January 13

NuclearPath wrote: »

HatchetHaro wrote: »

I fully agree with points 1, 2, and 3 here. Defo not the continuous sound, though.

Hi Hatchet. We heard your feedback and therefore have decided to remove Argonian from the game. Anyway yeah I also like this idea but as a DK main I actually kinda liked the old effect. New one is cool don't get me wrong (minus the heart... idk if that's intentional or not but why is it up there) but I actually really liked the full body effect, but I seem to be alone in that.

As a fellow DK main I also liked old effect because of the beating heart, but it looks too much like a failed invisibility spell, where only the character's circulatory system is visible.

MXVIIDREAM · January 13

NuclearPath wrote: »

HatchetHaro wrote: »

I fully agree with points 1, 2, and 3 here. Defo not the continuous sound, though.

Hi Hatchet. We heard your feedback and therefore have decided to remove Argonian from the game. Anyway yeah I also like this idea but as a DK main I actually kinda liked the old effect. New one is cool don't get me wrong (minus the heart... idk if that's intentional or not but why is it up there) but I actually really liked the full body effect, but I seem to be alone in that.

I actually like the old effect aswell so unique
I can’t play only assume the heart is a bug because everyone seems to hate it 😂

NuclearPath · January 13

iyx wrote: »

NuclearPath wrote: »

HatchetHaro wrote: »

I fully agree with points 1, 2, and 3 here. Defo not the continuous sound, though.

Hi Hatchet. We heard your feedback and therefore have decided to remove Argonian from the game. Anyway yeah I also like this idea but as a DK main I actually kinda liked the old effect. New one is cool don't get me wrong (minus the heart... idk if that's intentional or not but why is it up there) but I actually really liked the full body effect, but I seem to be alone in that.

As a fellow DK main I also liked old effect because of the beating heart, but it looks too much like a failed invisibility spell, where only the character's circulatory system is visible.

Lol hadn't thought of it that way. Drank the wrong potion and the whole circulatory system showed up. Great Halloween costume, not so good for combat.

MXVIIDREAM · January 13

Okay so confirmed it’s not a bug but it has been suggested to either remove it or put it inside the chest of the toon where it was before but the have stated they’re aware and exploring options as currently no one I’ve spoke to seems to likes that change aswell as the spiked armour parasite backpack looking thing

J18696 · January 13

I agree with this visual concept would like alot better

MXVIIDREAM · January 14

Have you guys had any updates ?

tsaescishoeshiner · January 14

I didn't like the old visual making your character invisible. I think it's also more of a burst heal than a buff, so I'm not sure it needs a long, continuous effect.

iyx · January 15

MXVIIDREAM wrote: »

Have you guys had any updates ?

No, and I'm not sure the developers have confirmed this issue. I also can't check the changes on the PTS, as I don't have it installed.

Radiate77 · January 15

iyx wrote: »

MXVIIDREAM wrote: »

Have you guys had any updates ?

No, and I'm not sure the developers have confirmed this issue. I also can't check the changes on the PTS, as I don't have it installed.

We had a confirmation that it was not a Bug, and that they were looking into adjusting the animation over in the Bug Reports thread for this patch.

iyx · January 15

Radiate77 wrote: »

iyx wrote: »

MXVIIDREAM wrote: »

Have you guys had any updates ?

No, and I'm not sure the developers have confirmed this issue. I also can't check the changes on the PTS, as I don't have it installed.

We had a confirmation that it was not a Bug, and that they were looking into adjusting the animation over in the Bug Reports thread for this patch.

Great, thanks for the notification.

Radiate77 · January 15

I realize I didn’t link the thread, my apologies.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/687453/pts-update-49-bug-reports-for-combat-refresh-dragonknight#latest

MXVIIDREAM · January 15

iyx wrote: »

Radiate77 wrote: »

iyx wrote: »

MXVIIDREAM wrote: »

Have you guys had any updates ?

No, and I'm not sure the developers have confirmed this issue. I also can't check the changes on the PTS, as I don't have it installed.

We had a confirmation that it was not a Bug, and that they were looking into adjusting the animation over in the Bug Reports thread for this patch.

Great, thanks for the notification.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
Hi All, just wanted to follow up here. The heart appearing above your head for Dragon Blood and its morphs is not a bug, but the team sees the feedback posted here and is assessing possible updates to the visuals. Thanks for the continued feedback.

^^^^ that was what they wrote in case you have a hard time finding it, sounds promising about the heart

James-Wayne · January 16

If the heart above the head is a visual bug like the wings then how in the hell did this get past QA before PTS, it's so obvious.

Put my name down as QA, I have over 12 years experience with ESO!

aetherix8 · January 16

This floating heart is distracting, I would rather have nothing floating above my toon’s head. Perhaps it can be removed still.

MXVIIDREAM · January 16

James-Wayne wrote: »

If the heart above the head is a visual bug like the wings then how in the hell did this get past QA before PTS, it's so obvious.

Put my name down as QA, I have over 12 years experience with ESO!

It’s been confirmed as not a bug and intended however after a mainly negative feedback I saw Kevin address this on a post I can’t remember where but he said he had seen the feedback and was speaking to the team to explore options
A lot of us are hoping it gets removed I suffer with adhd and as silly as it sounds it completely breaks the focus I have when that thing pops up
Shame because the rest of the animation is beautiful I just hope they can delete the heart

ZOS_Erin · January 20

The team has reviewed the feedback we have received on the refreshed visuals for Dragon Blood and has made the following changes:

The heart iconography no longer appears above the user's head
A brief pulse of heart FX plays on cast to align with the animation and accentuate the activation of the ability

We have seen the feedback regarding extending the molten ribcage visuals to be present for the duration of the ability - the team has decided to not action on this feedback, as the intention behind this visual is to highlight the instant heal being applied to the player.

You can see the updates to the visuals in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdi4Yzr4Tsg

These changes will arrive in the third week of PTS. Thank you for your continued feedback as we continue to iterate on the refreshed Dragonknight visuals.

iyx · January 20

ZOS_Erin wrote: »

The team has reviewed the feedback we have received on the refreshed visuals for Dragon Blood and has made the following changes:
The heart iconography no longer appears above the user's head

A brief pulse of heart FX plays on cast to align with the animation and accentuate the activation of the ability

We have seen the feedback regarding extending the molten ribcage visuals to be present for the duration of the ability - the team has decided to not action on this feedback, as the intention behind this visual is to highlight the instant heal being applied to the player.

You can see the updates to the visuals in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdi4Yzr4Tsg

These changes will arrive in the third week of PTS. Thank you for your continued feedback as we continue to iterate on the refreshed Dragonknight visuals.

Thank you so much for continuing to improve the ability design based on player feedback.

Vaqual · January 20

ZOS_Erin wrote: »

The team has reviewed the feedback we have received on the refreshed visuals for Dragon Blood and has made the following changes:
The heart iconography no longer appears above the user's head

A brief pulse of heart FX plays on cast to align with the animation and accentuate the activation of the ability

We have seen the feedback regarding extending the molten ribcage visuals to be present for the duration of the ability - the team has decided to not action on this feedback, as the intention behind this visual is to highlight the instant heal being applied to the player.

You can see the updates to the visuals in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdi4Yzr4Tsg

These changes will arrive in the third week of PTS. Thank you for your continued feedback as we continue to iterate on the refreshed Dragonknight visuals.

Very good visual overall, but also very sad to see the Weapons being completely hidden for the animation. In week 1 you had at least shields still being drawn and I really hoped you could manage to keep all Weapons displayed and drawn. Although it does look cleaner than the 2h-Weapon teleporting to the back, this is quite disappointing for me compared to the "old" version, where really only the transparency was an issue. I hope changing this still remains as an option for the future.
I do agree with letting the VFX fade after the initial heal.

iyx · January 20

Vaqual wrote: »

Very good visual overall, but also very sad to see the Weapons being completely hidden for the animation. In week 1 you had at least shields still being drawn and I really hoped you could manage to keep all Weapons displayed and drawn. Although it does look cleaner than the 2h-Weapon teleporting to the back,this is quite disappointing for me compared to the "old" Version, where really only the transparency was an issue. I hope changing this still remains as an option for the future.

Yes, the disappearing weapons look odd (as does the lack of outlines of the shoulder blades on the back).

MXVIIDREAM · 9:03AM

ZOS_Erin wrote: »

The team has reviewed the feedback we have received on the refreshed visuals for Dragon Blood and has made the following changes:
The heart iconography no longer appears above the user's head

A brief pulse of heart FX plays on cast to align with the animation and accentuate the activation of the ability

We have seen the feedback regarding extending the molten ribcage visuals to be present for the duration of the ability - the team has decided to not action on this feedback, as the intention behind this visual is to highlight the instant heal being applied to the player.

You can see the updates to the visuals in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdi4Yzr4Tsg

These changes will arrive in the third week of PTS. Thank you for your continued feedback as we continue to iterate on the refreshed Dragonknight visuals.

This looks SO GOOD. Thankyou for updating us Kevin it does mean a lot I’m excited to try this out