Yes, you still need to buy some Chapters or DLCs (or subscribe for them) to get access to them. But they’re making more of the former content that was once buy to play free for everyone. Which ones exactly was said in the interview.

old_mufasa wrote: »

They didn't really answer the question is do you need past chapters there's stuff saying that everything's coming with Game Pass or if you already own the game but then they make comments about certain DLC being rolled into the base game so my question is.

Do you still need to buy the pass chapters to gain access to such as classes like The Necromancer and you need to buy the dungeon updates for those past chapters to get access to them or are they all going to be rolled into this new season system?

I haven't played since Somerset so I was really intrigued to be able to jump back in without having to get all the past chapters but they weren't very clear on that.

Classes: No, classes are sold independently in the crown store. They become detached from chapters when the chapter enters the crown store. No news on if they will become base-game.

Dungeons: No news on if dungeon DLCs will become base-game. This will be interesting with the MoS + MHK solo modes to see if they will make Wolfhunter base game, if the solo modes will be base game, or if you will have to have the Wolfhunter DLC to use the solo modes.

Chapters: They're adding Orisinium, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood to base game in Q1. Greymoor later in the year. Morrowind was made base-game in 2022. It doesn't seem that they're rolling chapters into base-game in order as Summerset, Clockwork City, and Elsweyr came before Greymoor.

"What's happening in Winterhold?"

old_mufasa wrote: »

Okay so they need to kind of come out and clarify what is and isn't coming with the season's zero as far as what you need to pay for still and what's coming with it.

They have. Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Orsinium and Imperial City (tho that was free anyway) will become base game. Everything else will be the same. You don't need to pay for anything new but it's not a golden ticket to get everything else

Yes. All of the stuff they showcased are things moving forward. It seems like eventually they'll bring pretty much all DLCs & chapters prior to this new model to the base game as free content being that we're getting orsinium/thieves guild/DB/summerset and then greymoor later this year. Probably by the end of next year most stuff would be free? Dunno though.

old_mufasa wrote: »

So like I said if you get the 2025 Premium Edition that has all the missing chapters that I don't have and it should come with all the classes I should be up to date for all future content correct? Also do the dungeons now come with the chapters cuz before they would be split which always annoyed the hell out of me.

It definitely comes with Necros and Arcanists. I'm not sure if Wardens are included because Vvardenfell is base game now and they're a seperate purchase so dont know if they're included in the content pass or not. I can check tho, I got it when it was on sale

EDIT: Yes, Warden is included

spartaxoxo wrote: »

old_mufasa wrote: »

So like I said if you get the 2025 Premium Edition that has all the missing chapters that I don't have and it should come with all the classes I should be up to date for all future content correct? Also do the dungeons now come with the chapters cuz before they would be split which always annoyed the hell out of me.

The 2025 Premium Edition will give you access to all of the previous chapters and the 2025 dungeons. Older dungeons are still separate purchases. You'll have access to every major feature except Clockwork City's transmute station. But, you can get access to the transmute station from the craftable version anyway.

Are you sure??

I could almost swear the 2025 Premium Edition Content Pass comes with everything. Nothing is left out.

Soarora wrote: »

old_mufasa wrote: »

They didn't really answer the question is do you need past chapters there's stuff saying that everything's coming with Game Pass or if you already own the game but then they make comments about certain DLC being rolled into the base game so my question is.

Do you still need to buy the pass chapters to gain access to such as classes like The Necromancer and you need to buy the dungeon updates for those past chapters to get access to them or are they all going to be rolled into this new season system?

I haven't played since Somerset so I was really intrigued to be able to jump back in without having to get all the past chapters but they weren't very clear on that.

Classes: No, classes are sold independently in the crown store. They become detached from chapters when the chapter enters the crown store. No news on if they will become base-game.

Dungeons: No news on if dungeon DLCs will become base-game. This will be interesting with the MoS + MHK solo modes to see if they will make Wolfhunter base game, if the solo modes will be base game, or if you will have to have the Wolfhunter DLC to use the solo modes.

Chapters: They're adding Orisinium, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood to base game in Q1. Greymoor later in the year. Morrowind was made base-game in 2022. It doesn't seem that they're rolling chapters into base-game in order as Summerset, Clockwork City, and Elsweyr came before Greymoor.

Correction on classes. Classes are technically detached and technically not detached to their chapters.

Example. Say I last played with the release of summerset like op indicated. If i bought the 2025 premium edition it would come with ALL chapter DLCs, classes and skills that are tied to them.

What it wont include are smaller dlcs like the reach, southern elyswyr and dlc dungeons.

Its reall confusing and zos ahould just release a version that basically has ALL chapters and DLCs in it to keep it simple.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

old_mufasa wrote: »

So like I said if you get the 2025 Premium Edition that has all the missing chapters that I don't have and it should come with all the classes I should be up to date for all future content correct? Also do the dungeons now come with the chapters cuz before they would be split which always annoyed the hell out of me.

The 2025 Premium Edition will give you access to all of the previous chapters and the 2025 dungeons. Older dungeons are still separate purchases. You'll have access to every major feature except Clockwork City's transmute station. But, you can get access to the transmute station from the craftable version anyway.

Are you sure??

I could almost swear the 2025 Premium Edition Content Pass comes with everything. Nothing is left out.

Clockwork City wasn't a chapter but a small zone DLC.

If you get the Premium Edition, you'll get the following content alongside a few cosmetics.

• Solstice
• Fallen Banners (Exiled Redoubt and Lep Seclusa dungeons)
• Feast of Shadows (Naj-Caldeesh and Black Gem Foundry dungeons)
• Gold Road
• Necrom
• High Isle
• Blackwood
• Greymoor
• Elsweyr
• Summerset
• Morrowind
• Base Game

ETA

Since these are all the chapter versions of those old large zones, you'll get all of the associated chapter features as well. So, you'll get the respective classes and companions.

The lack of the other dungeons is to me really ridiculous that should have been included with the chapters that are relevant to those dungeons. Oh well