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Ojustaboo
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Hi all, today for the first time, I lost it with another player and told them to pxxx off.

There was I, only been in Alik'r Desert a short while, hunting out runes for my enchanter, when I stumble across a Skull and Crossbones. Just like on any other Skull and Crossbones so far, I see a red mob appear and I attack it.

Due to the gold spamming, I have got into the habit of having two separate chat tabs, one called Guild with everything enabled except for zone chat, and the other the default one with zone enabled, and I only use the default one in PvP.

Anyway, I didn't realise that for the Lesser Circle, a mob comes along and summons the boss, I'm happily killing the mob, I then see a load of people standing on the hill nearby, mob dies and am surrounded by a few players, a couple using the clap emote, and one constantly running around me trying to stab me.

I realised at this point I had done something wrong.

After literally about 5 mins of this person running around me non stop, I told them to pxxx off. I then went onto the zone chat tab.

At that point the mob re spawned and another guy who was walking past, saw it and attacked. This time I had the zone chat on and could see other players comments.

Some were saying "stop don't kill it"
But others were saying things like
"fxxxing newbs"
"I bet their foreigners"
"they are doing it on purpose"

I responded with a /say saying

"I'm new to the area, I didn't realise I was doing anything wrong, all other times at skulls I have attacked the red mob, Perhaps it would be more constructive telling us what we are doing wrong rather than having a go???"

Total silence, no one bothered to respond at all. After a couple of mins I then said

"Well if no one is going to bother to explain what I did wrong then maybe I should attack the next mob I see????????"

At which point someone explained that the mob summons the boss and it takes ages because people keep killing it, and I thanked them for their response.

Yes my tone was curt, but if you had seen the comments being said in /say, yours probably would too.

Now I know, see a glowy thing in the future, don't rush in, wait until I know what's happening.

While I know what people can be like in mmos, it's saddening that people can be so quick to judge and condemn when all I was doing (and I suspect the other player too) was having fun in what I think is the best mmo in years.

Not sure of the solution but I can imagine those people waiting for the boss to see this happening time and time and time again by innocent players.

If people new to mmos who are weary of grouping, maybe haven't joined a guild or just in one with their spouse etc, had mainly soloed up to this point and experienced what I saw tonight, I can fully understand them being the type of person to come on here and complain about grouping being needed for some content (I love group content, just making a point) and asking for it all to be made solo-able etc, and to be honest, if players choose to speak to others like this, I cant blame them in the slightest.


Edited by Ojustaboo on May 16, 2014 10:02PM
  • michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO
    Gamers are impatient and many of them are immature. They also take this stuff too seriously. Too many hours in front of a computer and not enough real life experience. You can only think of playing Elder Scrolls Online as a joke, beyond that, there's nothing more to it.

    Don't worry about it. Just play.
  • Shillen
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    If it makes you feel better this world boss is broken and doesn't give credit no matter what. These people trying to get it are wasting their time.
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  • Kahlar
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    you say this was Alik'r?
    interesting.
    i know of an EXACT same scenario with EXACT same problem in next zone...
    region of "Bangkorai"(sp?)

    first, yes, they should have explained the situation...
    regardless of thier frustration.

    sadly, it happens almost EVERY time summoner appears...
    i have stood there for a couple hours, over a dozen times summoner spawned...
    every time someone killed summoner before boss appeared...
    lots of 'chat' asking killer to 'stop attacking summoner'...
    but it never works...
    every time i would explain after to killer after why everyone was upset...
    why we must not kill summoner... no boss=no loot and no achievment.

    regardless, a very very very frustrating event :(

    ** the event could easily be fixed IF boss spawned with summoner...
    or at least within a few seconds.

    *** note: as of this writing Bangkorai 'summoner event' is bugged...
    most the time she will not summon... and...
    even killing the summoned boss gives no credit for event *sigh*
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  • Evergnar
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    If there's a problem, then ya, just take two sec to explain it to the person (which sounds like what they should have done). If someone gets nasty just use /bucketsplash.
  • achimb16_ESO3
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    OP, thank you for the heads up - I didn't even know there were mobs that summon the boss at the skull events (and I'm level 45 ...). Seems I'v just been lucky to always have the boss be already there or appear without a summoner.
  • Noswell
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    The only thing I can think of is some kind of "Dungeon Journal" with brief explanations of the overworld dolmens/elite camps in them. But really, how many people would read them before charging in to a new discovery?

    Sounds to me like working as intended, you unintentionally mess up the mechanics your first time, people call you out, it's done. Not the end of the world, we've all been there.
  • Epona222
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    I have zone chat turned off too, can't be doing with it.

    If you are able to mess up a spawn in this way, it is NOT YOUR FAULT, it is bad design. Because in an MMO where anyone can wander into an area and attack mobs, there shouldn't be bosses that can be messed up by you doing that.

    And yeah, people shouldn't be rude about it either. But it is a design flaw, and not your fault - try not to take it personally - all those people were just frustrated with the way this spawn is designed that someone can wander in and mess it up. They're not angry with you personally even if at that moment it may seem directed at you.
    Edited by Epona222 on May 16, 2014 11:15PM
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  • Reenlister
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    Shillen wrote: »
    If it makes you feel better this world boss is broken and doesn't give credit no matter what. These people trying to get it are wasting their time.

    Had to add here, yes indeed, that boss 'don't work'. They are going to be standing around a looooooooong time yet.
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