PTS Golden Pursuits – A Way to Improve PTS Participation

Erickson9610 · January 6

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

if player count is low on PC why dont they switch PTS into CTS

The "P" in "PTS" stands for Public, not "PC".

Yes, a console version of the PTS would be nice to have.

heimdall14_9 · January 6

Erickson9610 wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

if player count is low on PC why dont they switch PTS into CTS

The "P" in "PTS" stands for Public, not "PC".

Yes, a console version of the PTS would be nice to have.

i know what it means i was just using it in an off hand way but thank for the info

AcadianPaladin · January 6

I play to enjoy a game - not to test it. That is why I wait at least a year or two to go near any new game - I'm not paid to nor do I have any interest in being a beta tester.

That said, I do monitor the PTS forum. What I have observed over the years here is that there is plenty of what appears to be well-reasoned input from PTS players. However, I also have learned that the patch notes that introduce the PTS look pretty much just like the patch notes that go live after PTS.

Gabriel_H · January 6

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

if player count is low on PC why dont they switch PTS into CTS and give console players the testing, see how much that helps over giving 1/3 of the pop free things they could simply get 2/3 of the pop into doing testing since the 1/3 that can dont want to anymore

This is just moving the problem. The PTS population is low because people got tired of their feedback and bug reports being ignored.

heimdall14_9 · January 6

Gabriel_H wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

if player count is low on PC why dont they switch PTS into CTS and give console players the testing, see how much that helps over giving 1/3 of the pop free things they could simply get 2/3 of the pop into doing testing since the 1/3 that can dont want to anymore

This is just moving the problem. The PTS population is low because people got tired of their feedback and bug reports being ignored.

giving out items aint going to fix that issue but turning PTS over to 2/3 of the pop might help simply due to extra numbers being involved in the testing , the wall event showed that console players are more involved in EVENTS then PC players and more likely to be involved in PTS too

katanagirl1 · January 7

Freelancer_ESO wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

The argument that things couldn’t get fixed once they hit PTS in past years was always - the schedule. Now that we have these Seasons, ugh I hate that term, they completely gave themselves the green light to be able to spend more time on the PTS testing and actually make the bug fixes.

I am confused as to why this is not happening. They are no longer constrained to a fixed schedule, right?

This opens the door for people to participate in PTS testing and for the devs to get the bugs fixed. So, more people will participate if their time is seen as valuable and helpful. Seems like a no-brainer.

EDIT: typo

I could be mistaken but, I don't think the shift to seasons will really would free up the scheduling that much.

My impression is that with most big budget entertainment items the people that produce them aim for a specific release windows and spend significant amounts on marketing for that window.

ZOS with Seasons may not need to hit the exact same times for releases and the exact same size for releases but, they'll still need to be dropping content at times when they think it's an optimal time for people to buy and when they have planned their marketing to hit which is going to limit the ability to extend testing on the fly.

That was one of the big things that the Seasons was supposed to give us - more time for them to fix bugs and not being driven by the schedule. I didn’t buy it, but I am just pointing out that they specifically said that as if it was planned to happen. I knew the cons would far outweigh the pros. Those were the pros.

It still could happen if they really want to release updates that have fewer bugs like they said they do.

Gadamlub14_ESO · January 7

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

if player count is low on PC why dont they switch PTS into CTS and give console players the testing, see how much that helps over giving 1/3 of the pop free things they could simply get 2/3 of the pop into doing testing since the 1/3 that can dont want to anymore

This is just moving the problem. The PTS population is low because people got tired of their feedback and bug reports being ignored.

giving out items aint going to fix that issue but turning PTS over to 2/3 of the pop might help simply due to extra numbers being involved in the testing , the wall event showed that console players are more involved in EVENTS then PC players and more likely to be involved in PTS too

whether there are 100 or 10,000 PTS testers doesnt matter if all critical feedback and bugs get ignored anyway

majulook · January 7

I personally gave up on using the PTS during the cycle with testing of furniture crafting, It was not that particular PTS cycle that made or caused my decision. It just finally dawned on me that players questions and feedback in all the previous PTS cycles was ignored, so why waste my time.

Gabriel_H · January 7

majulook wrote: »

I personally gave up on using the PTS during the cycle with testing of furniture crafting, It was not that particular PTS cycle that made or caused my decision. It just finally dawned on me that players questions and feedback in all the previous PTS cycles was ignored, so why waste my time.

I'm starting to see a pattern here ...

Edit: Pun very much intended!

driosketch · January 7

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Treeshka wrote: »

I believe majority of the players does not get into PTS environment because it requires you to download the game once again entirely. If it was like differently handled, like you only need to download the latest patch, and then hop into PTS it might be better for accessibility.

There was also the Server Planemeld a few years ago that ended up locking a lot of testers out of the Live server during the Anniversary Event. I’m not sure how big of a long term hit that was, but I’d be surprised if there wasn’t one.

This right here is the biggest reason I uninstalled the PTS.

Sure, it takes up a lot of space, another reason I don't reinstall, and it being PC only already limited the number of testers. And sure the numbers further erode as testers don't feel like feed back is taken seriously, but I'm sure the number of testers fell off a cliff when the account bug hit.