ESO classic

Wup_sa · November 25

Yes

Honestly, a really great suggestion. I think the players who paid for the game for how the game was back in the day should be able to enjoy it and not forced to play the game, especially when it's in a state that just burns you out.

Community might not be large enough for being devided, but it should not be up to those players to decide who want everyone to play what they prefer.

Lumsdenml · November 25

No

I love all of those. Big NO here!

Recent · November 25

No

I love subclassing it makes combat/healing/tanking more fun imo.
We earned our cp so it's like a badge of honour to me.
I feel like account wide achievements are irelevant tbh since now you can be any role on one character and subclassing has made this easier. In a guild i was in many players were opting for doing it all on one character and not playing on their alts anymore.

I want eso to revive and thrive and changing all it's systems wont do that. It's the future content that will determin this game's longevity. Too many changes too soon will only push players to other games.

We've had hybridysation, scribing, skill styles, subclassing, game pass and a huge community event (ww). I feel personally that there were too many changes close together before players had a chance to embrace them....so many players were overwhelmed and quit the game.

Anilahation · November 25

Yes

Just make it a benefit of being subbed to ESO+, Would love to just go back and play base ESO... some of the modern updates or classes just really aren't it for me.

Eskibidus · November 25

ESO classic would make most of the PvP veterans get back in the game.

duagloth · November 26

Id be interested in the game just working right

Mrtoobyy · November 27

Yes

I would like to try ESO pre One-tamriel. Maybe I am just nostalgic but I really miss some things from the old days

Major_Toughness · November 27

Yes

Give me Elsweyr patch as a PvP server and let the rest of the game continue to rot with unnecessary half-finished bloat features.

Aliniel · November 27

No

This game has issues with player count as it is. No need to split it further.

O_LYKOS · November 27

No

I've actually only just stared mixing it up with subclassing. I am enjoying it however i feel it takes away the uniqueness of each class. Its fun, but not necessary. I feel its also opening a whole new meta when im researching builds, everything seems to be a subclass build.
Scribing, i havent even touched. And i feel i can still enjoy the game just as it is without it.
Achievements i enjoy. Its something to work towards. Im more of a solo casual player now so its nice to chill and complete zones. Working on achievements.

Xarc · November 28

Yes

Nearly 300 votes on this poll, thank you all!

About a third of players would be interested in an ESO Classic. That's huge (not counting all those who have already left because the game has changed too much for them).

This was just a preliminary discussion, which opens (or not) the field of more or less distant future possibilities.

Gabriel_H · November 28

No

Mrtoobyy wrote: »

I would like to try ESO pre One-tamriel. Maybe I am just nostalgic but I really miss some things from the old days

ESO player numbers on steam went from 3,000 to nearly 10,000 with the release of One Tamriel

xDeusEJRx · November 28

Yes

I would play eso classic just for the combat alone. Heck, I would even taken pre or post Summerset launch combat back.

The combat was always my primary reason to play eso, now it's just become an accessory with how much it has 'changed". Don't feel any of the magic or hype for launches as I did back then.

Xarc · December 15

Yes

Despite the fact that 30% of the community isn't having as much fun as before due to the game's significant changes, nothing is happening; ZOS remains silent, as usual.

We can only be disappointed.

ghastley · December 15

No

How far back do you want to go? Let us drop support for Windows 10 and 11, only allow PS3 or original xbox. Wait, why are we allowing consoles at all? PC users should have to downgrade their hardware ...

Gankform · December 15

Yes

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Mrtoobyy wrote: »

I would like to try ESO pre One-tamriel. Maybe I am just nostalgic but I really miss some things from the old days

ESO player numbers on steam went from 3,000 to nearly 10,000 with the release of One Tamriel

and now are back to 5k

moo_2021 · December 16

No

No because op didn't include hybridization

Ragnarok0130 · December 16

No

Absolutely not. I was there at launch and we've had so many quality of life additions that a ESO classic would not be fun. It'd be better to address subclassing than to waste money and manpower to create ESO classic that currently players wouldn't like.

MincMincMinc · December 16

No

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Mrtoobyy wrote: »

I would like to try ESO pre One-tamriel. Maybe I am just nostalgic but I really miss some things from the old days

ESO player numbers on steam went from 3,000 to nearly 10,000 with the release of One Tamriel

Well you also have to remember the majority of people early on started out on the TESO client, but steam grew in popularity. Which we obviously dont have numbers on the pop difference or split.

Ardriel · December 17

No

What you're suggesting isn't ESO Classic. ESO Classic would be: Veteran system: endless grinding until you reach v10. No transmutation system: endless farming until set pieces with the right trait drop. Have you ever been in vMA? Do you know how long it took back then to farm the vMA Inferno Staff in sharpened? There were players who had to do it 100 times and more.. In classic ESO unperfected weapons in Arenas didn’t even exist.
No sticker book: endless farming, no storage space.
No housing, no armory. No jewellery crafting, no mount swimming. And... and... and...
ESO is fine as it is. Of course balancing for subclassing and class improvements is still needed. But that is fine tuning.
I can understand if you have problems with subclassing. The AWA system has a few disadvantages, but mostly advantages. But what's wrong with the champion point system and scribing?
No I don’t want ESO classic.

Dubhliam · December 17

Yes

There are numerous quality of life additions that are essential to the current ESO experience, and some newer players would be raising eyebrows to the state the game was in the first couple years.

Anybody remember non curated Maelstrom weapons only dropping in vet, with no possibility of transmuting?
Also, Sharpened was literally the ONLY option.
7 pieces impen + sharpened
>
7 pieces divines + precise
On a build with Twice born star and Thief, Shadow

That being said, hybridisation and subclassing were two huge mistakes and the game will have a really hard time recovering from the damage done, IF it ever recovers.

kojou · December 17

No

As fun as it would be to go back to when dynamic ultimate was a thing, there are too many quality of life features that would be tough to live without.

The developers just need to move forward with new stuff, and try to add more content and fun to what is already here.

Xarc · December 18

Yes

we can perfectly imagine returning to a game such as:
- the latest improvements and quality of life mechanisms
- the latest bug fixes
- no Tamriel unlimited: finish your faction before TPing in neighboring factions
- no OneTamriel: the zones have levels, you have to start at the beginning, otherwise you get oneshot by a mudcrab
- no AwA, hybridization, subclassing...
- the old combat system
- old jab animations
- old skills of the game (before the hybrid), for example the cloak of the NB or the wings of the DK
- etc.

MincMincMinc · December 18

No

Xarc wrote: »

we can perfectly imagine returning to a game such as:
- the latest improvements and quality of life mechanisms
- the latest bug fixes
- no Tamriel unlimited: finish your faction before TPing in neighboring factions
- no OneTamriel: the zones have levels, you have to start at the beginning, otherwise you get oneshot by a mudcrab
- no AwA, hybridization, subclassing...
- the old combat system
- old jab animations
- old skills of the game (before the hybrid), for example the cloak of the NB or the wings of the DK
- etc.

Well to be fair the original beta and early game was hybridized. It wasn't until vigor was released that a "stam" build was really viable. Then it obviously took more time to catch on. I remember a few months later is when we started really seeing IC released and my favorite good ole stamsorc blackrose meta.

The IC to Summerset era is usually what most people seem to refer to as the golden era. Personally I think clockwork was the middleground peak where sets were interesting, but had not taken over combat. So there was a good mix between what you built and your actual fighting combat skill. Now a days you kinda ride passenger seat while your item sets dictate how combat goes.
Zos could probably reverse this fairly easily if we had more stat sets that were not driven with hard cooldowns and downtimes. Think like old fury, 7th, briar, ravager era.

DerethDawnblade · December 18

No

While I like the idea of legacy servers for older versions of games, the content in ESO is evergreen, and nothing has really been lost as the game has been updated. All the quests and dungeons I played through in 2014 are still there with minimal changes. This isn't like World of Warcraft, where they literally changed the entire base game map and quests while removing everything previous in the Cataclysm expansion. I don't see it as necessary to make legacy servers just to have a different system for perk points and less content. I also like that the game has been made level agnostic, as being able to freely roam the whole map brings it much closer to the experience of single player TES games, where movement isn't restricted by level.

Xarc · December 18

Yes

DerethDawnblade wrote: »

nothing has really been lost as the game has been updated. All the quests and dungeons I played through in 2014 are still there with minimal changes.

Of course.

But this isn't about the quest content at all, it's about... everything else?
Just because the quests haven't changed doesn't mean it's not legitimate to ask for a return to what we knew before.
For example, the AwA system clearly hurts my motivation to play my other characters, and I don't know, I sometimes get a slight mental block when I unlock an achievement on a character other than my main... That's just one small example.

Recent · December 21

No

Absolutely NO. I cant imagine going back and playing without all the quality of life improvements weve git over the years. I like my houses, i like my merchant, banker and armourer assistant. I like my grand master crafting stations.

I dont want to go back to the gold spammers on zone chat lol

The story quests are still all there. Nostalgia is an illusion...you cant go back to being younger and cant go back to how a game made you feel years ago. I know this from other game experience.

Xarc · December 21

Yes

Recent wrote: »

Absolutely NO. I cant imagine going back and playing without all the quality of life improvements weve git over the years. I like my houses, i like my merchant, banker and armourer assistant. I like my grand master crafting stations.

But who said all of this would disappear?

LesserCircle · December 22

Yes

Absolutely yes, just bring the real ESO back man.

Cooperharley · December 22

I wouldn’t mind veteran levels and difficult overland but all of the QOL that has come over the years is wonderful. I don’t think yall remember the feeling of having to grind maelstrom a million times. There was excessive friction early on.