Do you feel that the ZOS devs have been honest about the original intent of the Vengeance Campaign?

robwolf666 · 11:10AM

Yes

Yes - at the time... what else could they possibly have said before any testing had been done?
Things just might have changed over time.

Muizer · 12:34PM

Yes

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

This lack of interest in testing these fixes in a regular campaign indicate to me the Vengeance Testing was less about fixing existing campaigns and introducing the Vengeance campaign.

It was pretty clear from the start the intent was to rebuild, not fix, Cyrodiil PvP with Vengeance. And before anyone says 'just a test', that quite evidently referred to Vengeance I, which they stressed because usually what goes live is not a test, but a complete feature. Blame ZOS, perhaps, for letting this misunderstanding persist, but IMHO they didn't create it. Wishful thinking did.

lostineternity · 2:06PM

No

Muizer wrote: »

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

This lack of interest in testing these fixes in a regular campaign indicate to me the Vengeance Testing was less about fixing existing campaigns and introducing the Vengeance campaign.

It was pretty clear from the start the intent was to rebuild

Not it's not, you are talking absolute bs. From the start it was clearly stated that this is just a test to UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE OF PERFORMANCE issues.
Iterational test starting with bare minimum and adding back mechanics, and the moment performance drops we know what exactly caused it.
They said It hundreds of time on streams on forum in interviews and dev talks.

If not than it's pretty clear they lied all this time.

Of course their plans could change during this year and they had to communicate this properly but they didn't. They continued to lie until this moment. That's the issue. Their communication with community is the worst in the industry and I'm so f8888ng tired to pretend that such behavior is normal.

BardokRedSnow · 2:15PM

No

Edit: nvm

Melivar · 3:36PM

Yes

I think it was originally meant as just a test with the first round.

With the second round they were possible still hopeful but also thinking this might be the way forward.

And from there we have gotten to where we are today.

licenturion · 3:42PM

Maybe (Comment below)

I feel like they started this as a test as they said they would.

But along the way plans and roadmap change. They were probably surprised with the engagement and the survey results. There was also a significant change jn leadership and plans for the future might have changed.

Nothing is ever set in stone with live service game development. If you want a static game experience you should play single player games. I played many games over the years that really changed during their lifespan (like Overwatch). You either go along for the ride or step off if you don’t like the destination anymore.