Do you feel that the ZOS devs have been honest about the original intent of the Vengeance Campaign?

robwolf666

Yes

Yes - at the time... what else could they possibly have said before any testing had been done?
Things just might have changed over time.

Muizer

Yes

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

This lack of interest in testing these fixes in a regular campaign indicate to me the Vengeance Testing was less about fixing existing campaigns and introducing the Vengeance campaign.

It was pretty clear from the start the intent was to rebuild, not fix, Cyrodiil PvP with Vengeance. And before anyone says 'just a test', that quite evidently referred to Vengeance I, which they stressed because usually what goes live is not a test, but a complete feature. Blame ZOS, perhaps, for letting this misunderstanding persist, but IMHO they didn't create it. Wishful thinking did.

lostineternity

No

Muizer wrote: »

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

This lack of interest in testing these fixes in a regular campaign indicate to me the Vengeance Testing was less about fixing existing campaigns and introducing the Vengeance campaign.

It was pretty clear from the start the intent was to rebuild

Not it's not, you are talking absolute bs. From the start it was clearly stated that this is just a test to UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE OF PERFORMANCE issues.
Iterational test starting with bare minimum and adding back mechanics, and the moment performance drops we know what exactly caused it.
They said It hundreds of time on streams on forum in interviews and dev talks.

If not than it's pretty clear they lied all this time.

Of course their plans could change during this year and they had to communicate this properly but they didn't. They continued to lie until this moment. That's the issue. Their communication with community is the worst in the industry and I'm so f8888ng tired to pretend that such behavior is normal.

BardokRedSnow

No

Edit: nvm