The fact that people are suggesting that ZoS bribes players (because that’s what an incentive is) to join Vengeance just to pump up the numbers shows that they don't care whether anyone else enjoys the game mode. They enjoy it and want it to happen independent of anyone else’s opinion.

If this mode is so great and the answer to all the problems in PvP, there should be hour-long queues of people begging to get in. Instead? Ghost town.

Some of you don’t actually care about Vengeance. You care about irrevocably altering PvP because you think it’ll be funny to watch an entire community evaporate overnight.

Only reason I didn't play Vengeance this time is because the high latency is still there and it won't be fun joining a alliance with 10 other people while the other two have 100 each.

ToddIngram wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Vengeance on PC/NA is pretty populated right now.

It's 5pm on a Saturday night. PC NA has two bars of population on all three factions. If it were Grey Host all three factions would be pop locked. (and don't bother with the bogus argument that the bars represent more people in vengeance, they don't to any notable degree)

its hard to compare populations because theres different pop caps for vengeance and normal cyro

as zos has stated, the current cyro pop caps are 120/faction (360 max players), and vengeance pop caps are 300/faction (900 max players)

assuming 2 bars is "50% full", 2 bars in vengeance is basically equivalent to fully locked factions in say grey host

as of right now (7 pm est) vengeance has 2 bars across the board, so it would basically be equivalent to a poplocked grey host with some people likely sitting in queues

so in essence what this test is proving is that its not necessarily bringing in more people, but about the same amount of people in grey host

since zos gameplan is to likely have both grey host and vengeance active, vengeance will probably be as dead as blackreach is now