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DK skill Battle Roar is broken

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Erock25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwyVaS_pd-s

If you watch closely he is restoring around 950 stamina, magicka, and HP for each ultimate. I'm not sure how 70% of a 200 base cost ultimate equals 950 so I can only assume it is broken.
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  • KoooZ
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    Its not based on the 70%. It says "restore an amount. Amount increased by 35/70% of cost"
  • Erock25
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    KoooZ wrote: »
    Its not based on the 70%. It says "restore an amount. Amount increased by 35/70% of cost"

    True. Weird that the initial point increases it by 35%. So for this example, 70% of 200 (ultimate cost of Corrosive Armor) is 140. So the base amount it restores is 810. That is too much and therefore Battle Roar is still broken OP IMO.

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  • Niffo
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    KoooZ wrote: »
    Its not based on the 70%. It says "restore an amount. Amount increased by 35/70% of cost"

    Wow, that is super balanced, how are these unbalanced passives and abilities getting through the testing phase of the game.
  • sagitter
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    I think that beta period lasted too short, was not enought to test all variables. Good think is that developers listen to majority of ppl or it seems...
  • Niffo
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    sagitter wrote: »
    I think that beta period lasted too short, was not enought to test all variables. Good think is that developers listen to majority of ppl or it seems...

    They need to open the PTS up to everyone, there aren't enough people testing the patches.
  • Maverick827
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    Battle Roar is fine, the problem is Ultimate generation/spamming.
  • Erock25
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    Maverick827 wrote: »
    Battle Roar is fine, the problem is Ultimate generation/spamming.

    But no other class is OP with frequent ultimates. They gave the class that has the most aoe to generate the quickest ultimate points the two best ultimates in the game and a passive that gives 1k of all three resources on activation.

    It is a DK issue and not an ultimate generation issue.
    Edited by Erock25 on May 16, 2014 1:51AM
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  • Maverick827
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Maverick827 wrote: »
    Battle Roar is fine, the problem is Ultimate generation/spamming.

    But no other class is OP with frequent ultimates. They gave the class that has the most aoe to generate the quickest ultimate points the two best ultimates in the game and a passive that gives 1k of all three resources on activation.

    It is a DK issue and not an ultimate generation issue.
    No, it's an ultimate generation issue. Ultimates are supposed to be like "cooldown" abilities from other games. Abilities that were really powerful but had 5 or 10 minute cooldowns. With the ridiculous ultimate generation in this game, however, you're seeing people use them every 10 seconds, which is obviously ridiculous.

    Other classes can accomplish the same things, it's just cool to hate on DKs right now. The people over at tamriel foundry told you the same when you whined about Battle Roar over there.
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    Maverick827 wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Maverick827 wrote: »
    Battle Roar is fine, the problem is Ultimate generation/spamming.

    But no other class is OP with frequent ultimates. They gave the class that has the most aoe to generate the quickest ultimate points the two best ultimates in the game and a passive that gives 1k of all three resources on activation.

    It is a DK issue and not an ultimate generation issue.
    No, it's an ultimate generation issue. Ultimates are supposed to be like "cooldown" abilities from other games. Abilities that were really powerful but had 5 or 10 minute cooldowns. With the ridiculous ultimate generation in this game, however, you're seeing people use them every 10 seconds, which is obviously ridiculous.

    Other classes can accomplish the same things, it's just cool to hate on DKs right now. The people over at tamriel foundry told you the same when you whined about Battle Roar over there.

    Are you that dead set on DK not being nerfed that you have convinced yourself that DK does not have the two best ultimates and the best passives to go with the ultimates? You nerf DK ultimates and severely nerf Battle Roar and all of a sudden ultimate generation is NOT an issue.




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  • Maverick827
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    Are you so dead set on nerfing DKs that you have convinced yourself ultimate generation is not an issue?
    Edited by Maverick827 on May 16, 2014 2:19AM
  • vicNBitis
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    Ultimate chaining is a separate issue. As much as you'd like to conflate the two to distract from the fact that DKs are OP it isn't going to work.
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    Maverick827 wrote: »
    Are you so dead set on nerfing DKs that you have convinced yourself ultimate generation is not an issue?

    Show me any other class soloing veteran group content or extremely outnumbered PVP as easily as DKs do and I will concur. There are a multitude of videos going up over the past 2 weeks of DKs doing it so it should be easy to find videos of the other three classes. Make sure any ones involving vampires are post nerf.

    I do not understand your backwards thinking. Because DK's ultimates and passives related to ultimates are so overpowered you want to nerf ultimate generation for all three classes.

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  • Maverick827
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    vicNBitis wrote: »
    Ultimate chaining is a separate issue. As much as you'd like to conflate the two to distract from the fact that DKs are OP it isn't going to work.
    Nope, it's the root cause to the issue you think exists. As much as you'd like to think it's DKs, it isn't going to work.
  • vicNBitis
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    The DKs blowing through public dungeons soloing small packs without pause aren't chaining ultimates. They're not even using them.
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    vicNBitis wrote: »
    The DKs blowing through public dungeons soloing small packs without pause aren't chaining ultimates. They're not even using them.
    If they're not using them, how is Battle Roar a problem?
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    Maverick827 wrote: »
    vicNBitis wrote: »
    The DKs blowing through public dungeons soloing small packs without pause aren't chaining ultimates. They're not even using them.
    If they're not using them, how is Battle Roar a problem?

    This topic is specifically about DK passive Battle Roar being over powered/bugged. Still waiting for those videos of other classes soloing veteran group content and extremely outnumbered PVP with or without the help of their ultimates.
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  • Maverick827
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Maverick827 wrote: »
    vicNBitis wrote: »
    The DKs blowing through public dungeons soloing small packs without pause aren't chaining ultimates. They're not even using them.
    If they're not using them, how is Battle Roar a problem?

    This topic is specifically about DK passive Battle Roar being over powered/bugged. Still waiting for those videos of other classes soloing veteran group content and extremely outnumbered PVP with or without the help of their ultimates.
    Do you know what Battle Roar does?
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    Maverick827 wrote: »
    If they're not using them, how is Battle Roar a problem?

    Oh, is this thread confined to Battle Roar now? Sorry, it's just another OP skill from a class loaded with OP skills.
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    vicNBitis wrote: »
    Maverick827 wrote: »
    If they're not using them, how is Battle Roar a problem?

    Oh, is this thread confined to Battle Roar now? Sorry, it's just another OP skill from a class loaded with OP skills.
    It's in the title.

    Keep up, kid.
  • vicNBitis
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    It was a direct response to your attempted derailing. The OP was about a single use of Roar. It had nothing to do with ultimate.
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    vicNBitis wrote: »
    It was a direct response to your attempted derailing. The OP was about a single use of Roar. It had nothing to do with ultimate.
    You're right, Battle Roar has nothing to do with ultimates.
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    It does. Just not this thread/OP. This one's about a single use of Roar.

    But I know you have a habit. You can't win any arguments about DK OPness so you derail. It's a common enough tactic on the interwebs.
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    This thread is not about the single use of Battle Roar:
    If you watch closely he is restoring around 950 stamina, magicka, and HP for each ultimate.

    Clearly the complaint is about the video and clearly the feat accomplished in said video would not have been possible without using many ultimates.
    Edited by Maverick827 on May 16, 2014 4:01AM
  • vicNBitis
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    No, it's about a single use of Roar, hence, the word each. Someone clarified the tooltip even and the OP said it was still OP. No one mentioned spamming until you.
  • Maverick827
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    No, you're just wrong on this one.
  • davidhorstub17_ESO
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    hey thats my dk! so erock why do you hate me so much? just reroll a dk and we can be best buddies 2 manning craglorn trials :) rofl

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdWLgjME38k

    dks are fine guys i swear.
  • weirdkitten
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    DKs still maintaining all is fine and balanced with their class are delusional. Their tears will provide much needed salt to the /popcorn once the inevitable nerfs arrive.
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    weirdkitten wrote: »
    DKs still maintaining all is fine and balanced with their class are delusional. Their tears will provide much needed salt to the /popcorn once the inevitable nerfs arrive.
    What an immature and short-seighted thing to say.

  • Still_Mind
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    I can do a lot of stuff solo an NB tank - without the crutch that Battleroar and Magicka Furnance, essentially, are. Without them, DK sustainability is, at the very least, lacking.
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  • Erock25
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    Still_Mind wrote: »
    I can do a lot of stuff solo an NB tank - without the crutch that Battleroar and Magicka Furnance, essentially, are. Without them, DK sustainability is, at the very least, lacking.

    What kinda stuff? Any vids?
    davidhorstub17_ESO wrote: »
    hey thats my dk! so erock why do you hate me so much? just reroll a dk and we can be best buddies 2 manning craglorn trials :) rofl

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdWLgjME38k

    dks are fine guys i swear.

    I'm just spreading the good word that obviously Battle Roar is broken because no way did the devs plan on it healing all resource pools for nearly 1k.

    I should just roll a DK considering the upcoming patch notes.
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