SilverBride wrote: »

Do you prefer to speed Run through queued dungeons or take it slower and do all bosses?

Slow because there are some (hidden) DLC bosses that will provide extra buff when those bosses have been killed which is useful during fight with next boss like in Earthen Root Enclave.

I will suppose that most player waiting in queue also need some time to check for empty space in Inventory and fast decon/sell item through their Assistant NPCs. Make sure that quickslot is filled with potions (as lately my add on for QS seem to empty QS when changing character - and need a couple of seconds to open Inventory, change tab to QS and equip QS with potions - which can be done pretty fast as long nobody is setting group in combat mode which block all interaction with Inventory or other items including doors).

Speed running work best when group is ready for speed running and know what to do or when dungeon is rather short like FG. Add to that some players might not have unlocked CP which provide an increase in regen for magic, stamina and HP while sprinting. That also creates a lot of issues for players which have a hard time to keep up with low movement speed (no investment in CP for faster movement, not using Wild of Hunt Mystic which increase default movement speed etc).

Enough time to pick up and share quest for those that need that also will help with running dungeons (and might give hint on mechanic that are needed to progress like which door to open or certain combination of events that need to be done to not wipe; pick up AoE that spawn to prevent invulnerability etc) and after all we all want to pick up 1 skill point and be done with it.

I don’t know how I qualify. To me, speedrunning typically refers to players who take off ahead of the tank, ignoring trash until they absolutely have to kill it, running to the last boss as soon as possible. But “slow with optional bosses” makes me think exhausting quest responses and killing absolutely everything in the dungeon.

What I do is go through the dungeon at a brisk pace (giving the group major and minor expedition when I’m tanking) but still killing the trash where they are, making use of skips except skips that have a high fail rate. Also, not running ahead of the group and pulling. If they’re slow, I’ll run ahead and stand still until they catch up.

I cannot answer since there is a huge difference between base game and DLC dungeons. While I will always say "yes" if someone suggests doing side bosses in DLC dungeons, I have absolutely no interest in optional bosses in base game dungeons.

Too many variables and not enough options in the poll

SilverBride wrote: »

duagloth wrote: »

Too many variables and not enough options in the poll

When queueing for a dungeon, which do you prefer? The only options are a speed run or a slower do all bosses run. There is no way to list every possible variable so I kept it simple and to the point.

I prefer different things depending on the dungeon,group,event,achievement,etc. What you listed are not the only options.

I'm probably somewhere in-between. I like fast pace, but I don't like it when someone runs ahead dropping mobs all over the rest of us. Communication also goes a long ways, but I don't want to do all the side bosses and roleplay a random dungeon usually. Side bosses really aren't needed unless you're after a lead or doing the hardmodes. Again communication, "Hey I need the lead from a side boss could we PLEASE do one.

It depends on the dungeon. If I've done the dungeon a hundred times, I'm happy to skip stuff.

If I'm still not used to it, I'd rather do everything.

The poll is not biased. With any poll there are always an infinite number of variables. Way too many to list.

But this poll is asking a simple question. When queueing for a dungeon, which do you prefer? A speed run or a slower complete run?

SilverBride wrote: »

The poll is not biased. With any poll there are always an infinite number of variables. Way too many to list.

But this poll is asking a simple question. When queueing for a dungeon, which do you prefer? A speed run or a slower complete run?

The poll IS biased. It doesn't have the options that most people prefer. It has the options preferred by the OP and doesn't take into account norm vs. vet dungeons vs. DLC dungeons.

In a normal dungeon people should assume it's going to be a speed run. Most of us have done most of the dungeons over 100 times now and there is no reason what ever to take our time doing them again.

If people want to take a tour of every nook and cranny of every dungeon, then it's their responsibility to form a group that wants the same waste of time.

Veteran dungeons are different, but even then with a non DLC dungeon most of us can speed run them with no tank or healer needed.

The DLC dungeons, on the other hand, speed running would be a problem if it happened with any kind of regularity, but it doesn't.

The people who whine about speed runners remind of the mother with a young child expecting everyone else to change their behavior because they decided to have a baby. That's not how the world works.

The poll is not biased. It is a simple question with simple answers. Most players prefer one way or the other. That is all it is asking.

AngryPenguin wrote: »

...It doesn't have the options that most people prefer. It has the options preferred by the OP and doesn't take into account norm vs. vet dungeons vs. DLC dungeons...

Dungeons are GROUP content. EVERYONE that queues for a dungeon, whether it's just a random dungeon or to be grouped randomly for a specific dungeon, NEEDS to expect the ENTIRE dungeon to be cleared.

If YOU just want bum rush the last boss YOU can put together YOUR own dungeon group and do that. The rest of us should not have to suffer getting cheated out of loot and XP just because YOU want to treat GROUP content like solo content.

i will ask member who have dungeon quest or want do hide boss, and choose speed rush or slow
but in pug 90% time is "yes,he have quest and wait he talk npc and rush.."
now dps is too high,do quest still can clean dungeon very quick

ESO_player123 wrote: »

You could have split the answers for base game and DLC dungeons (make 4 options instead of 2). As I said before, my answers would be opposite for these 2 categories (fast for base game, slow for DLC). As-is, there is no way to choose an answer.

That wouldn't work because players can only choose one answer. If they choose what they prefer when queueing for base game dungeons then they are unable to choose what they prefer when queueing for DLC dungeons, and vice versa.

SilverBride wrote: »

The poll is not biased. It is a simple question with simple answers. Most players prefer one way or the other. That is all it is asking.

I think the problem might be that your two options feel like “when you do a dungeon do you want to do it the fastest possible way or the slowest possible way" (I know now that they're not, but first two glances that's what it seemed like) while most people are probably in the middle. I hate runs where someone's running ahead as fast as possible just as much as I hate runs when people are being extremely slow and pushing for sides when I might not want to do them (I'll do them for the achievement if they need the achievement but I don't do side bosses for fun). If I had to choose between being disrespected by someone who sees me as an NPC and not good enough or disrespected by someone who doesn't care about my time and just wants to use me for the ability to clear the dungeon then my choice is to not play.

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Believe it or not, this question isn't binary. You don't have to either mosey along--hitting all the side bosses, looting every backpack, and admiring the scenery--or blast your way from boss to boss. I'd say most folks I know prefer an efficient run but also want to actually kill the adds and loot chests, for example.

I don't think there’s an obvious problem with the poll wording but rather some phenomenon of perceiving the options as opposite extremes and asking what we typically do even though it's actually asking which one we'd prefer given the option of playing with group A or group B. Maybe we have bad reading comprehension haha (I apparently do )