Update on Solstice Treasure Map Leads - Drop Data - Aug 5, 2025

  • Ishtarknows
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    The treasure maps in starter zones used to consistently drop 2 motif leads when the new ancestral motifs came out. I remember buying up Khenarthi's Roost maps for this purpose. It was changed not long after. I believe that's what the screenshot is referring to
  • MoonPile
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    https://moonpile.tumblr.com/post/792464909580500992/update-on-solstice-treasure-junk-map-leads-aug

    UPDATE – August 26:

    • TOTAL Sol maps spent ONLY on 2/3 codex = 62
    • EMPTY maps = 60
    • Maps since last lead: 45

    A suggestion to fix this, bottom of this post:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8361228/#Comment_8361228

    OP:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/681576/update-on-solstice-treasure-map-leads-drop-data-aug-5-2025/p1

    A reminder that unless you're a collector / houser / etc. willing to waste 10s of millions on maps, don't even bother past 2/3 codex – As you can see, it is not worth it. It was the same in Apocrypha and West Weald (I quit WW early: terrible drop rates + can't buy the items after unlock = pointless). I only continue to do Solstice with the hope that ZOS might listen to us eventually, please.

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    Edited by MoonPile on August 26, 2025 5:37PM
  • xencthlu
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    MoonPile wrote: »
    https://moonpile.tumblr.com/post/792464909580500992/update-on-solstice-treasure-junk-map-leads-aug

    UPDATE – August 26:

    • TOTAL Sol maps spent ONLY on 2/3 codex = 62
    • EMPTY maps = 60
    • Maps since last lead: 45

    A suggestion to fix this, bottom of this post:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8361228/#Comment_8361228

    OP:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/681576/update-on-solstice-treasure-map-leads-drop-data-aug-5-2025/p1

    A reminder that unless you're a collector / houser / etc. willing to waste 10s of millions on maps, don't even bother past 2/3 codex – As you can see, it is not worth it. It was the same in Apocrypha and West Weald (I quit WW early: terrible drop rates + can't buy the items after unlock = pointless). I only continue to do Solstice with the hope that ZOS might listen to us eventually, please.

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    You might know this better than I. What other furnishing in game even compares to the third treasure map antiquity furnishing? It's not the Ayleid bookcases or Fiery Brazier, because even as expensive as they are, they are a functionally infinite number of furnishings once purchased. I can't think of any individual furnishing that might cost as much, except perhaps crown furnishings purchased by converting gold to crowns?
  • MoonPile
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    MoonPile wrote: »
    https://moonpile.tumblr.com/post/792464909580500992/update-on-solstice-treasure-junk-map-leads-aug

    UPDATE – August 26:
    • TOTAL Sol maps spent ONLY on 2/3 codex = 62
    • EMPTY maps = 60
    • Maps since last lead: 45
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    xencthlu wrote: »
    You might know this better than I. What other furnishing in game even compares to the third treasure map antiquity furnishing? It's not the Ayleid bookcases or Fiery Brazier, because even as expensive as they are, they are a functionally infinite number of furnishings once purchased. I can't think of any individual furnishing that might cost as much, except perhaps crown furnishings purchased by converting gold to crowns?

    TBH I'd compare it to furnishings in Crown Crates. Even that is more dependable.

    I buy only very specific sets of crates, only with gold, and foremost to get good gem return via repeats. So I get packs I've bought before, where I like the bulk of the low-tier items, and get a lot of gems back. Spending 5-10 mil on crate packs pretty much guarantees enough gem return to get some items. (At least at <= 100-gem tier. The Apex tier is absurd; even if when I can "afford" furnishings in it, I typically choose not to. (I was really tempted to get 1 more of these: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Constellation_Projection_Apparatus - but nah, it's too much. Waste of a really great asset.)

    With crates, at no point do I actually hope to "win" anything I actually want via natural roll. It's just a numbers game to get enough gems. One could say the same about "Treasure" Maps, but IMO they're worse:
    1. There's not really any way to circumvent their RNG (e.g. Endeavors, repeat pulls, etc.)
    2. Maps are also a waste of time! I hate crates but at least they're instant. With maps we have to play the inventory-management game since they don't stack, then run around like a numpty only to go "oh look, garbage worth < 500 gold again" for the 50th time in a row.

    lol pardon me, I'm really trying hard to keep it low-sodium here :D

    You're right though... some of us could afford an Ayleid bookcase plan or even one of those silly mushrooms by now.
  • xencthlu
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    Well, you heard it from the housing expert.

    Is a single copy of this furnishing worth 50 USD to you?

    If not, don't bother with Solstice treasure maps. Consider yourself warned.
  • ApoAlaia
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    Personally I have stopped trying to get TP/WW/Solstice furnishing leads from treasure maps past the 1st one.

    If at some point in the future they introduce changes that make this 'chase' (as they like to call it) reasonable (stacking treasure maps, vastly improved odds etc) then I will return to it.

    As it is right now the only winning move is not to play.
  • NoticeMeArkay
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    The apocryphal well taught me to not spend any extra time or gold on maps.
    Found a map? Cool, will go check it out. Sell the green trash from it for 500 gold max and move on.
    But won't buy maps from guild vendors.

    It's called a learning curve.
  • MoonPile
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    xencthlu wrote: »
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    Well, you heard it from the housing expert.

    Is a single copy of this furnishing worth 50 USD to you?

    If not, don't bother with Solstice treasure maps. Consider yourself warned.

    Haha ironically that's the one I unlocked first and at least it is buyable, yay! Took less than 20 maps I think, including 1/3 codex. Though not guaranteed for anyone else's pulls of course.

    I am actually happy about it too, because I think these will be an amazing structural piece (if only the others were buyable too): https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8355425/#Comment_8355425

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    I was REALLY excited about the Bismuth Tower -
    https://moonpile.tumblr.com/post/786568851473219584/scattered-light-effect
    Used the single one I got from 1/3 codex here -
    https://moonpile.tumblr.com/post/790521269539028992/the-dressing-room-at-sugar-bowl-suite-eso

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    ...Now I'm just a bit sad :D
    These assets are great, it's a shame they're buried too deep to reasonably be used.

    Totally agree with @NoticeMeArkay and @ApoAlaia too, smartest move is not to play. I'm just taking the "squeaky wheel" route for now. (And all of my gold estimates are averages based on TTC avg / what you can easily find maps listed for; for these tests I only buy them if I happen to see it listed at a lower range that's OK to me. Though it'd be smarter to flip, still.)
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    Edited by MoonPile on August 27, 2025 2:50PM
  • SerafinaWaterstar
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    Forgive me if this is slightly topic adjacent.

    Why do leads for Mythics still drop once all found when you can recreate it via the Transmute station?

    And I find the whole furnishings from leads utterly depressing. Especially for craft stations when you have to have found each part 3 times to be able to just buy it. That is not enjoyable game play.

    And I cannot even begin to describe my frustration with the drops in IA. Awful awful awful.
  • ApoAlaia
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    Forgive me if this is slightly topic adjacent.

    Why do leads for Mythics still drop once all found when you can recreate it via the Transmute station?

    And I find the whole furnishings from leads utterly depressing. Especially for craft stations when you have to have found each part 3 times to be able to just buy it. That is not enjoyable game play.

    And I cannot even begin to describe my frustration with the drops in IA. Awful awful awful.

    Actually the IA arrangement with the leads has put me off IA completely.

    It would seem that the chests in the 'side zones' have a much higher chance to drop leads that the 'regular' chests, alas I utterly suck at the 'side zones'.

    I have managed to complete the speed one, the goat one and the 1v1 combat one just fine, but the ghost lights and the tomeshell hunt one I am stuck on the very last 'challenge', and without the ability to retry straight away after failure I... well, can't.

    Unfortunately that is all the game offers me now, either one or the other which means no extra chance for leads or anything for me.

    I am sure that there are players that enjoy this degree of punishment on top of punishment for just not being very good at something, but I am not that kind of player so I just avoid IA altogether, even when is a simple '5 minute thing' like for endeavours.
  • SilverIce58
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    My issue with Treasure Maps is I never seem to pick any up. I don't even know where you'd find one, bc antiquities and treasure chests dont give me any anyways. How are we supposed to use these amazing furniture pieces if we can't even find the maps?
    Edited by SilverIce58 on August 28, 2025 1:12PM
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  • BretonMage
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    ApoAlaia wrote: »
    Actually the IA arrangement with the leads has put me off IA completely.

    It would seem that the chests in the 'side zones' have a much higher chance to drop leads that the 'regular' chests, alas I utterly suck at the 'side zones'.

    I have managed to complete the speed one, the goat one and the 1v1 combat one just fine, but the ghost lights and the tomeshell hunt one I am stuck on the very last 'challenge', and without the ability to retry straight away after failure I... well, can't.

    Unfortunately that is all the game offers me now, either one or the other which means no extra chance for leads or anything for me.

    I am sure that there are players that enjoy this degree of punishment on top of punishment for just not being very good at something, but I am not that kind of player so I just avoid IA altogether, even when is a simple '5 minute thing' like for endeavours.

    Even on days when I'm dutifully doing all the marauders and the side portals (except the hunting the tomeshell ones, I can never manage those), I never get any leads. All I get are style pages which I don't care about.

    The situation with WW/IA leads is absolutely dire.
  • MoonPile
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    My issue with Treasure Maps is I never seem to pick any up. I don't even know where you'd find one, bc antiquities and treasure chests dont give me any anyways. How are we supposed to use these amazing furniture pieces if we can't even find the maps?

    Yeah I was almost going to name this as Problem #3 in this comment – https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8362641/#Comment_8362641 think it's been mentioned previously in this / other related threads too: There's no reliable way to get or farm maps. Even crates are technically more easily attained.

    I've only gotten a few Solstice maps "naturally" (~ less than 5 since Solstice launch) via Azandar's folios and treasure chests in other zones. I don't think demand is the only thing driving maps' high prices either, I do think ZOS artificially lowers supply / drop rates when a zone is new. Compared to other zone maps that drop way more frequently.
  • MoonPile
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    Just a data update; starting to wonder whether it's bugged:

    Update: Aug 30:
    TOTAL Solstice maps spent ONLY on 2/3 codex = 78
    EMPTY maps = 76
    Maps since last lead: 61

    An entire month and 61 maps – ZERO leads. Surely this is not working as intended?
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