tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Someone mentioned a mechanic requiring 4 people. What does it block you from to not have 4 people? For example, is it a main boss, a sideboss, a hallway later on, etc.

No mechanics in NC require 4 people. Maybe they were thinking of BGF. The only things in NC that I think require 2 or more people are the sides (to open and to physically do) and the door at the start.

Daoin wrote: »

anyhow, does any of it really matter with a steam playercount of 16k peak time on opening day ? the last monthly average of players even close to that low was 8 years ago, guess what im trying to say is what would more people playing it and saying its no good achieve anyway ? so remainers should just be happy with we got i think. even the only reason i played one of them is because there was a no refund at all polict after purches of season pass because it had content in it that was already available before the pass

Well, I could say the opposite, what's the point of playing a game you're PAYING for by putting a fake smile and pretending it's well made?
I'm sorry but it feels terribly naive and disrespectful to your money/time and everybody else's.

The last few years of ESO have been a hodgepodge of pathetic implementations, started in my opinion with the Arcanist who just had (and still has) the most broken skill line in the 10 years of this game, and topping it up with subclassing.
They have created an environment where the game has become trivial and now they're out of "challenges" since you have literally immortal players out there.

Any HM/Trifecta is done on day 1, what the hell...it's a damn McDonald's game. I've never seen an MMO so broken and with no real challenge whatsoever.
Add this to the fact that it's literally impossible to play a non-subclassed character, that it's hard to play any non-arcanist



Look at those images, those are the daily trials in my guild...THERE ARE ONLY ARCANISTS XD and I play a DK, there's no space for anybody else. Trying to get a spot in a HM organised trial is basically impossible, especially if you have a life and a job and need a day or two to kinda fit the schedule.
But yeah, all the kids now jump in the arcanist wagon and that's it, one button and they run faster than anybody else

This is the state of ESO in 2025, a *** one-class game. [snip]
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Veinblood1965 wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

As the devs stated on the preview stream.

Group content is supposed to be for....wait for it....groups. its like wandering into pvp zone and complaining that I got killed.

So dont be surprised that such a requirement exists.

How does it hurt anyone if someone wants to solo something? It's like "fun" is not even a consideration. I was hoping we were WAY past this. It's just another thing that slowly one piece at a time drives people away.

I have nothing against players wanting to do something for fun, or attempting it. Quite the contrary i think players should think outside the box and try to break the game. Using streak on this dungeon is a good example of this.

But demanding and complaining that a devs make a change that is counter to the their intentions isnt really productive, especially when they have publicly commented on it. And it wasn't a request that was made, it was a demand.

Liukke wrote: »

Any HM/Trifecta is done on day 1, what the hell...it's a damn McDonald's game. I've never seen an MMO so broken and with no real challenge whatsoever.

This is pretty misleading, those groups getting "Day 1" tri clears have been progging it on PTS for weeks and weeks

PureeEvil wrote: »

for what reason i cant enter in that dange in solo? what is this [snip] decision and why and who need it? I was dealing 40-70% damage from the last group. Why the hell do you want to spend more of my time on group selection? I don't need a group, they're all slow. Slow group selection. This is a terrible decision. Are you serious? This is nonsense. The group is a burden, and you're putting good sets (which don't come out every update) in a dungeon that I can't enter alone.
U47 is just disgusting. I'm glad I canceled my subscription.
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1. If you want solo content we have infinate archives
2. Don't you need a meta build for vet mythic content which requ8res a group?

Group content requiring a group to complete - ridiculous. :P

In an MMO, even!

Why play a multiplayer game if you refuse to group….?

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

Why play a multiplayer game if you refuse to group….?

a person has the right to roleplay as a loner if they wish in pve, many eso players do it but i am guessing that he says he plays pvp i am going to say conservatively 80% of the time considering half of his pve is solo therefore has never really spent the time to appreciate pve group content yet and even if its still not for him hey we are back to the loner thing have you met many pver's that enjoy grouping with pvp players in thier pvp build ? pve'rs never liked each other much pvp builds were always frowned on in groups by everyone not sure if subclassing is helping with that, me personally i think instead of subclassing buff up the arcanist more and restore the old HA builds and even more fun playing with any builds we meet in pve. then again just checking i got old posts saying i always went pvp in pve builds

Tariq9898 wrote: »

This sucks. As someone who’s been starving for Veteran Overland, soloing dungeons was a way to enjoy some single player storytelling whilst feeling the challenge and stakes.

This is what I figure I'll be doing given a vet overland has taken longer than I had hoped at the end of last year when I bought the expansions to catch up. That and grinding skill lines for multiclassing and skill points plus some extra alts for writs etc.

I liked upper craglorn circa patch 1.5 on my dragon knight (Please Don't Nerf Me) for farming 6 packs of welwa for nirnstones and nodes in general (they counted as nodes due to the leather) , and I want options for tougher for overland than that area (even world bosses were all soloable other than bone grappler's nest when I tried. So we're the delves in craglorn. Never tried dungeons way back when).

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

As the devs stated on the preview stream.

Group content is supposed to be for....wait for it....groups. its like wandering into pvp zone and complaining that I got killed.

So dont be surprised that such a requirement exists.

How does it hurt anyone if someone wants to solo something? It's like "fun" is not even a consideration. I was hoping we were WAY past this. It's just another thing that slowly one piece at a time drives people away.

This is sort of how I feel.

Something being too hard to do solo unless you are really powerful? Fine.

Having mechanics that make a group required? I guess also fine, but not all that fun.

I have been having fun going around doing WBs and Public Dungeons solo just to see how far I have come since I first started. I am not up to trying group dungeons solo yet, nor some of the other content that doesn't force a group, but is meant for a group. But, it is still fun to test myself on it.

But, having a mechanic that locks me out of trying it solo makes that particular dungeon no fun to me at least.

Just seems like when these things are designed does not someone ask the question why have this barrier? To keep solo people out? Then the follow up question, WHY????

This is the only thing that bugs me. I started EQ at launch, and until WOW came through and wiped the floor with them by being easier you either played a precious FEW classes SLOWLY solo or you had to have the holy Trinity to do ANYTHING. Been there, done that. If there is a faction in our ESO development that is ACTIVELY against solo play in charge of future releases I'd like to know as solo play is a big part of why I still play(and purchase new content). The fact that in my opinion, the easiest and least imaginative way to block solo play was used is also a factor.

If this is a once or twice thing /shrug. Not cool but whatever. I group enough I'll still see it, but if there is a personal agenda being implemented by someone in charge of future content then own up and state your new direction. Plenty of solo players would LOVE to know if zos is taking a new direction. Especially before purchasing new content.

PureeEvil wrote: »

twisttop138 wrote: »

I'm on console so Im curious. I watched a guide of that dungeon, are you unable to enter the dungeon at all? Or are you unable to access one of the secret bosses with this pressure plate thing? The guide wasn't really clear.

you cant enter in it in solo. 2 plate on start to get down Bridge

What's even dumber is there is no group only mechs in any of the actual bosses, only the side puzzles/secrets. Which can be done with less than 4 players but you have to be fast. My 3 man group did the first one with 2 of us and the 2nd with all 3. Didn't manage the 3rd because we ran out of time but I think we could have got it.

Soarora wrote: »

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Someone mentioned a mechanic requiring 4 people. What does it block you from to not have 4 people? For example, is it a main boss, a sideboss, a hallway later on, etc.

No mechanics in NC require 4 people. Maybe they were thinking of BGF. The only things in NC that I think require 2 or more people are the sides (to open and to physically do) and the door at the start.