Scribing System Golden Pursuits NOT Backfilling

Tandor · July 10

The whole point behind Golden Pursuits is supposed to be the degree of flexibility that gives you an effective choice so as to allow anyone to complete the total number required while disregarding those they don't favour. If you are physically locked out of 6 options because you have already completed them outside of Golden Pursuits so that you are left with only 20 options with which to complete the 20 required for the top reward then there is no effective choice and the whole point behind Golden Pursuits has been lost.

Adaarye · July 10

Not only is it not backfilling. It's having a "moment".

So I did writs for the day. It gave me the first reward .. okay!

Then the claim rewards alert for golden pursuits kept appearing in the middle of the screen. It would not go away. So I reloaded .. still there

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Then I used "T" to claim all. I was given 20 ink.

None of the rewards are grayed out.

Come on! This is unnerving.

Danikat · July 10

I think I'm glad I didn't have time to play today. I logged in very briefly and noticed I didn't have the scribing one complete but also couldn't claim it from the store but didn't have time for much else. I'm going to wait and see if this gets fixed in the next few days before I start.

I know it's still possible to complete the golden pursuit without the ones that have already been identified as broken, but considering all the reports about them not completing even for people who hadn't done it before and have completed the requirements I'd rather not risk getting caught up in it if I can avoid it.

DenverRalphy · July 10

Tandor wrote: »

The whole point behind Golden Pursuits is supposed to be the degree of flexibility that gives you an effective choice so as to allow anyone to complete the total number required while disregarding those they don't favour. If you are physically locked out of 6 options because you have already completed them outside of Golden Pursuits so that you are left with only 20 options with which to complete the 20 required for the top reward then there is no effective choice and the whole point behind Golden Pursuits has been lost.

In the very rare circumstance that a player has done all scribing quests on all 20 of their characters, it's likely the last thing they are going to concern themselves with is having to settle for the alternative objectives in a scribing themed GP. And given that it would be faster and take much less effort to NOT do all those quests and do the other objectives instead, they're better off for it.

The simple fact of the matter is, the GP is easily completed regardless whether those 6 objectives are available or not. If vets have fewerl options, well so be it. It's not eactly a surprising circumstance.

And given how insanely easy this GP is to complete, I'm truly astonished at myself for being surprised at the simmering outcry brewing over it.

Danikat · July 10

It's also a simple fact that we've once again got an in-game activity which does not function as ZOS designed and advertised it.

Even if players can find a work-around it's still a problem that the game is not working the way ZOS intend it to, and I assume they'd want to know about that so they can fix it.

Grega · July 10

CyberDiva wrote: »

For those of you that received Scribing via the chapter, you can still obtain the Golden Pursuit for claiming it from the Crown Store.

On a character that HAS NOT done scribing yet, go into the Crown Store and find the Second Era of Scribing quest starter and "purchase" it.

This will place an item into your Quest Items inventory. You need to go to Inventory > Quest Items (the Triangle Symbol) and find the one that reads "On Behalf of the Mages Guild." Double-click it. This will give you the Golden Pursuit.

I made a new character, level 3, and in crown store it states, PURCHASED. So I can’t do what you are saying. Xbox NA

Polska_1999 · July 10

Also having this issue.

6 of the pursuits are for one-time quests that I have already completed on my main and have the achievements for.
1 of the pursuits is for accepting grimoires, which I've also effectively maxed out on my main as well.
1 of the pursuits is claiming scribing from the crown store, which I can't do on any character since I already have it on my account.

That makes 8/26 (almost 1/3 of all golden pursuit options) unattainable on my main, leaving only 18 (of which 16 are needed).

I'm hoping we get some communication from ZOS on whether this is intentional or if any of these will be back filled.

virtus753 · July 10

Ragged_Claw wrote: »

Feels a bit like those who paid for the chapter are being penalised, we should at least be given the 'claim Scribing from the crown store' one. Can we even get the achievements on another character or are they account wide? Even if we can, I don't think I could be bothered doing the whole thing over again.

Also I've collected 20 Luminous Ink and it did not count for the 'collect 10' pursuit.

Where did you get that Ink from?

When I took the 3 Ink from the first Pursuit checkpoint reward (the Affix script satchel), it progressed the meter to 3/10.

Some sources do not count, like buying it off of guild stores. I'm curious which sources count and which don't beyond these two.

ETA: Got the 20 Ink from the reward for defeating 100 enemies with Scribed skills. That didn't count. Unsure if that's intended or not, since the 3 Ink from the reward satchel did count.

LootAllTheStuff · July 11

Grega wrote: »

CyberDiva wrote: »

For those of you that received Scribing via the chapter, you can still obtain the Golden Pursuit for claiming it from the Crown Store.

On a character that HAS NOT done scribing yet, go into the Crown Store and find the Second Era of Scribing quest starter and "purchase" it.

This will place an item into your Quest Items inventory. You need to go to Inventory > Quest Items (the Triangle Symbol) and find the one that reads "On Behalf of the Mages Guild." Double-click it. This will give you the Golden Pursuit.

I made a new character, level 3, and in crown store it states, PURCHASED. So I can’t do what you are saying. Xbox NA

Also XBox NA, and I did get this to work specifically by grabbing the starter quest (not the chapter/DLC), which was showing as "Free!". It wasn't on a new character, but it was one who hadn't done ANY scribing related stuff at all.

LunaFlora · July 11

if Scribing is already purchased the "Claim Scribing" pursuit really should complete.

However, we definitely can complete the quest pursuits unless completed the entire questline on all characters. i only completed that with my main character so no problem that way

Turtle_Bot · July 11

Polska_1999 wrote: »

Also having this issue.

6 of the pursuits are for one-time quests that I have already completed on my main and have the achievements for.
1 of the pursuits is for accepting grimoires, which I've also effectively maxed out on my main as well.
1 of the pursuits is claiming scribing from the crown store, which I can't do on any character since I already have it on my account.

That makes 8/26 (almost 1/3 of all golden pursuit options) unattainable on my main, leaving only 18 (of which 16 are needed).

I'm hoping we get some communication from ZOS on whether this is intentional or if any of these will be back filled.

This has been me as well, my alts all have the grimoires, the 6 quests completed and I cannot claim scribing from the crown store, so I am locked out of those 8 options as well.

I've also noticed the Accumulate Ink pursuit doesn't seem to be filling either, despite finding Ink last night. If this one is bugged as well, then that's 9/26 some players physically cannot complete which is getting dangerously close to not even being able to get the capstone reward...

@ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom This is concerning that these were supposed to be back filled, yet none have been considering just how many of them there are.

Hapexamendios · July 11

I don't think it's going to make any difference for me. The objectives are easily going to be met.

shadyjane62 · July 11

JeroenB wrote: »

Don't forget "Claim Scribing from the Crown Store", which also cannot be completed if you have Scribing by owning the Chapter.

Ty. I couldn't understand why I couldn't get this even on a new character.

SeaGtGruff · July 11

I'm not sure that accepting the quest from the Crown Store is supposed to work for this Golden Pursuit. I tried that, and it did not work, as reported here by others. But then I read the text for the Golden Pursuit and if I remember correctly, the wording makes it sound like you're supposed to claim the upgrade from the Crown Store, meaning the bundle that includes the quest plus the Scribing feature itself. So I think this particular Golden Pursuit cannot be earned by players who already have Scribing as part of the game-- unless it's possible to claim the bundle (not the quest) as an upgrade despite already owning half of the bundle's contents. I couldn't do it, but maybe it will work for someone else.

Alaya · July 11

I already had Scribing since I obtained it with Gold Road, however, as another user above me said, claiming the Scribing quest within the crown store WORKS if you DO THE QUEST. I did it on TWO ALTS who DID NOT have Scribing, and it worked fine, completed two pursuits and counted as completing quests. The claim Scribing from the Crown Store worked for me AFTER I completed the quest, and the Scribe One Skill completed with that.

That being said, I do wish that the ones that involved doing the entire quest line were retroactive, because I had SO many issues when I did it the first round, that I honestly don't want to do it a second time, besides that, the only thing you gain from doing them again (besides completing the quest) is what, 12 Luminous Inks? Considering that the bugs from back then are probably gone now (one could hope), it's still a pain to complete those quests.

scrappy1342 · July 11

Alaya wrote: »

Considering that the bugs from back then are probably gone now (one could hope), it's still a pain to complete those quests.

i ran into a good one yesterday when you go into the indrik room and he talks to you the first time. ran in and he starts his speech and i ran up to the dais.... he's still talking, can't see him, quest marker is on the dais. but no npc. tried reloadui to no avail. went back out the door and came back in. just happened to catch a glimpse of him as i ran past and saw him disappear, but he still went on with his speech. so i went back out and came back a third time and WAITED. if you run ahead of him, he bugs and disappears. if you stay behind him, he will do what he is supposed to do. i guess just like the fable, you are supposed to follow XD

Grizzbeorn · July 11

virtus753 wrote: »

Where did you get that Ink from?

When I took the 3 Ink from the first Pursuit checkpoint reward (the Affix script satchel), it progressed the meter to 3/10.

Some sources do not count, like buying it off of guild stores. I'm curious which sources count and which don't beyond these two.

ETA: Got the 20 Ink from the reward for defeating 100 enemies with Scribed skills. That didn't count. Unsure if that's intended or not, since the 3 Ink from the reward satchel did count.

I'm only getting credit for the inks I harvest from the world (e.g., resource nodes, enemy kills, etc.).

katanagirl1 · July 11

Danikat wrote: »

It's also a simple fact that we've once again got an in-game activity which does not function as ZOS designed and advertised it.

Even if players can find a work-around it's still a problem that the game is not working the way ZOS intend it to, and I assume they'd want to know about that so they can fix it.

I was going to say something like this but you beat me to it.

I had not heard that the items were supposed to backfill. If they were, then this doesn’t look good, and even if they weren’t, it still is a suboptimal implementation. It’s just more bugs in an ever-ending stream of bugs in the game. Someone needs to check these things before pushing them out the door.

I’m glad there is a workaround but still…

virtus753 · July 11

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Where did you get that Ink from?

When I took the 3 Ink from the first Pursuit checkpoint reward (the Affix script satchel), it progressed the meter to 3/10.

Some sources do not count, like buying it off of guild stores. I'm curious which sources count and which don't beyond these two.

ETA: Got the 20 Ink from the reward for defeating 100 enemies with Scribed skills. That didn't count. Unsure if that's intended or not, since the 3 Ink from the reward satchel did count.

I'm only getting credit for the inks I harvest from the world (e.g., resource nodes, enemy kills, etc.).

I got credit for all 9 inks (3 each) that came from the enciphered script rewards for the GP, but not for the 20 ink rewards. My best guess is that the ink from the satchels counted because they were looted from containers rather than being directly given as a discrete reward.

At least this means only having to find 1 in the wild. I got my tenth from a random chest.

Mik195 · July 11

LunaFlora wrote: »

if Scribing is already purchased the "Claim Scribing" pursuit really should complete.

However, we definitely can complete the quest pursuits unless completed the entire questline on all characters. i only completed that with my main character so no problem that way

If you pay money for something that is later made free, you should get credit for it. Saying you paid real money and you get nothing while others get it free is a bad look.

Horace-Wimp · July 11

I owned Scribing before this GP and completed a couple of the quests but not all since the ones I did took WAY too long and were VERY boring and tedious. I only did this with my main character and none of my alts.

The claim scribing in the UPGRADES section of the Store is greyed out on all my alts and only one of them did I complete the opening quest. THAT quest completion triggered the GP but the "Claim Scribing from the Crown Store" cannot be completed by any of my characters as that box in the Store is already greyed out for some reason.

I really don't care about Scribing but I am interested in the GP goodies being offered on the off-chance I become interested in Scribing. I certainly hope these get backfilled.

Also, which source of Inks are suppose to count? I've collected a few and am still sitting at zero credit.

Danikat · July 12

I'm having the same problem as other people: I can't complete the one for claiming scribing from the crown store.

I pre-ordered Gold Road so I've had access to scribing since it came out. I logged into a character who had not done the quest before, claimed it from the crown store, completed the quest and in the process completed the 'Scribe 1 Skill' achievement for the golden pursuit, but 'Claim Scribing from the Crown Store' is still uncompleted and both the upgrade and the quest are greyed out on that character.

Standard disclaimer, again: Yes I am aware I can still complete the golden pursuit. I am reporting this because it's obviously not working as intended and it might be helpful for ZOS and other players to know that. This is not a complaint. I am not crying, or angry or feeling any strong emotions about it, I am simply reporting a problem.

Elsonso · July 12

I am curious as to where this thinking that the Golden Pursuits would backfill came from.

"Yesterday one of the DEVs mentioned things would be backfilled but... They are not and now that post is gone."

Aside from this, did anyone else at ZOS say "backfilled" or is the forum hallucinating?

DenverRalphy · July 12

Elsonso wrote: »

I am curious as to where this thinking that the Golden Pursuits would backfill came from.

"Yesterday one of the DEVs mentioned things would be backfilled but... They are not and now that post is gone."

Aside from this, did anyone else at ZOS say "backfilled" or is the forum hallucinating?

Yeah, I'm trying to work that one out myself. I don't recall ZOS ever promising to prorate GP objectives. They've never done it in any of the past GP's.

I suspect that (as is often the case) someone misinterpreted a comment made by some from ZOS. Or perhaps even someone from ZOS misspoke, removed or edited said statement. But either way, too late as players will latch onto every statement hear as a promise and quote it as gospel.

Pixiepumpkin · July 12

Elsonso wrote: »

I am curious as to where this thinking that the Golden Pursuits would backfill came from.

"Yesterday one of the DEVs mentioned things would be backfilled but... They are not and now that post is gone."

Aside from this, did anyone else at ZOS say "backfilled" or is the forum hallucinating?

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

I am curious as to where this thinking that the Golden Pursuits would backfill came from.

"Yesterday one of the DEVs mentioned things would be backfilled but... They are not and now that post is gone."

Aside from this, did anyone else at ZOS say "backfilled" or is the forum hallucinating?

Yeah, I'm trying to work that one out myself. I don't recall ZOS ever promising to prorate GP objectives. They've never done it in any of the past GP's.

I suspect that (as is often the case) someone misinterpreted a comment made by some from ZOS. Or perhaps even someone from ZOS misspoke, removed or edited said statement. But either way, too late as players will latch onto every statement hear as a promise and quote it as gospel.

Irrelevant. The "quests" should be backfilled. At least one of them is 100% impossible to do if it was already done (picking up the quest from the crown store will not complete even on a character who has never touched scribing and was able to pick the quest up).

But this is what happens when there are barely enough people working on ESO to keep it running.

LootAllTheStuff · July 12

I'm a bit torn on this back-filling thing.

On one hand, it's disappointing that I'm not getting credit for content already owned and work already done. Although you could argue that I've had the benefit of scribed skills since then.

On the other hand, if the 6 items (7 including ink) had been autofilled because I had already completed them and had a sizeable stash of ink, the progression through the GP wouldn't have been very satisfying either.

In the end, it doesn't really matter - I'm at 16/16 without really trying in 1.5 days, and I either will or won't get scribing active on my remaining characters depending on how I feel/what my needs are.

What I am curious about is the mixture of "complete n pursuits to unlock" and "complete this specific pursuit to unlock" that we got this time around. I don't remember - has ZOS done this before, or is this new?

cmetzger93 · July 12

I was also confused by these not backfilling

agelonestar · July 12

I think if the Golden Pursuits were supposed to backfill, there's a clear problem.

If they weren't, ZoS made an error in not clarifying or communicating with those customer who already bought the Chapter and completed the required GPs.

Either way, it's put me right off these GPs.

For the record, I'm also fed up with getting Ink rewards that do not advance the ink collection achievement counter.

theskymoves · July 12

LootAllTheStuff wrote: »

I'm a bit torn on this back-filling thing.

What I am curious about is the mixture of "complete n pursuits to unlock" and "complete this specific pursuit to unlock" that we got this time around. I don't remember - has ZOS done this before, or is this new?

Yes, there has been a combination of activity-specific and progression rewards for past GPs.

scrappy1342 · July 12

LootAllTheStuff wrote: »

What I am curious about is the mixture of "complete n pursuits to unlock" and "complete this specific pursuit to unlock" that we got this time around. I don't remember - has ZOS done this before, or is this new?

yes, they have done that before where you get a reward for a specific pursuit. and those have always worked the same way. even after you fill out the 16/16 you can still complete those