Ulti gen nerfs again

madmufffin · July 8

I just want to say this makes no sense. It removes interesting builds and no longer rewards good gameplay for supports. Adding it in tandem with murdering Pearls last patch [snip]

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dosco · July 9

Especially since pearls and pillagers were nerfed so hard because multiclassing (catalyst) was strong. Now since they deleted any uniqueness from that, surely they'll give us back those sets... right?

robpr · July 9

If you use heroism pots/banner/mender bond/torchbearer these passives are becoming essentially dead. They should've make it an unique buff that could be stacked with heroism, I dunno, something like magickasteal/lifesteal - a debuff on enemy that grants ultimate when dealing damage once every 1s.
This would make it not be able to stack with different subclasses while not making us lose power and devalue heroism sources even further.

Koshka · July 9

It's just stupid that you'd still need ulti pots with these passives because of cooldowns lol. They've basically just removed them from the game.

BahometZ · July 9

Such an awful change, again replacing the unique with the uniform makes the game dull and unfun. Why would I log in for this? The game continues its march into blandness.

I dont buy the dev notes on this change, they read like a poor attempt at selling a knowingly bad decision. It makes these class passives not just worse but irrelevant. Why would I rely on *** passives to give me poor uptime on these buffs when I would just use heroism pots, scribing skills and sets? They need to revisit this but they won't and then wonder why we're unimpressed with their efforts.

madmufffin · July 9

The passives are completely worthless now with pearls/trample and hero pots. It makes no sense to just delete unique components of a class that can now only be used by PVPers. GREAT GAME DESIGN.

pinkpom · July 9

I think we need a new Ultimate Buff.
I think Minor Heroism needs to separate roles.

RaidingTraiding · July 9

at least from a pvp group perspective, these issues stemmed from them releasing too many ult gen sets. the result of this is groups being able to always have a barrier up which stacks with other damage shields, to have 40k shields on at all times.

wouldn't expect anything else from zos. when there are broken sets their answer is to add new sets to counter, or nerf class passives and skills. they never address the root of the problem. guaranteed the groups spamming barrier will still be doing so after these nerfs .

TheBardAtTheInn · July 9

At this point, I fully expect next patch to have something like "We've overhauled the Minor Heroism buff granted from scribing skills and potions, it's now a new effect that doesn't grant ultimate and instead increases experience gained through monster kills." That seems on-brand for how ZOS "fixes" things.

madmufffin · July 12

At this point we just need to stop enjoying things, because that seems to be the main catalyst for them to be nerfed

Renato90085 · July 12

i just think zos will next nerf nb Soul Harvest and Cryptcanon Vestments ,dk/vamp/werewolf free wd

actosh · July 12

I dont Like the Changes but all the %based ult cost reduction should stay(zos surely will Go for those as well).

Let us have ultspam If WE heavily Invest into IT.

madmufffin · July 12

actosh wrote: »

I dont Like the Changes but all the %based ult cost reduction should stay(zos surely will Go for those as well).

Let us have ultspam If WE heavily Invest into IT.

Everything should be left as is. Everything is about trade offs. You can't make use of these things unless you specifically invest in them to make it work. I get to spam atros in my core, but my other healer doubles my hps. That's the trade off and I don't see why it's an issue.

Aylish · July 13

Will DK get their ult gen ability during running ultimate again? Now that you can‘t stack ult gen buffs anymore, I see no point in this restriction anymore.

I totally agreed that DKs weren‘t supposed to shell forever due to stacking ult gen buffs from several subclassed lines. But now they should get their behavior from pre-U46 back.