Hexagar wrote: »

Lag and abilities delay aside can someone please tell me whats all those bugs u all talking about? I am VR3 and seriously I saw only 2 bugged quests that got fixed the other day.. seriously game cant be bugless only for me...

Let me guess, ebonheart yes?

Trying rolling char in aldmeri dom I can assure you almost every zone has one or two buggy quests.

If you check the 1.1 PTS patch notes you'll see that 1.1 isn't just new content but a very large bundle of fixes as well.
I don't know the size of ZOS development team but not every developer is needed or usable in game fixes, like most MMO companies they're probably able to split their resources to have some developers finishing off the final touches to Craglorn (which seems mostly ready) and the rest working on fixes.

They release one or two patches with fixes each week with additional hot fixes when ready, this is proof they have development teams working on the issues.

Those bots aren't using free accounts either, they're most likely using stolen credit card details or hacked accounts.

SaibotLiu wrote: »

Im not saying its right. Im only vet rank 1, Craglorn wont be benefiting me personally for some time. But I understand the reasoning behind it, and why it's gotta happen.

Craglorn is supposed to be vr1-12 I thought? So hopefully its not like vr dungeons where the bosses drop vr5 loot when you're vr1, but like the bags in cyrodiil that scale to your level. Of course it's going to be way easier with all VR10 but good players will be wanted.

Audigy wrote: »

Amfijakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

Well the release of Craglorn is kind of necessary since they have no real end game content to speak of. I just keep running the same 3 dungeons every day. Its really boring being VR10, so Craglorn is needed.

Because you rushed

"Endgame" does not really exist in MMO´s, this is a term wow players and Blizz came up with to identify the raid grind as there is nothing else in that game, so that it is indeed the "end".

Traditional MMO´s however offer a journey and not a destination and ESO is going for the traditional way.

I have tons of content, so do at least 80% of the other players. Just the rushers complain, as they think an MMO must have a Raid dungeon that you can grind every week for months to get gear. While this is what WoW and its clones do, its not what ESO will.

Either accept that or move on.

Endgame doesnt exist in this game yes, but not because it was Zenimax great plan like you make it out to be. There is no endgame because they didn't finish it in time like a lot of other content in this game.
You might not like endgame but don't come down on me because i would like something to do in the game.

Chirru wrote: »

As for those players who take it easy and slow... well, we are stuck with the bleeding bugs and the Bots and grinding in Vet areas.

Actually some of us are blocked by game-breaking bugs reported weeks ago that ZOS seem can't be arsed fixing.

KerinKor wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Ok guys, point me in the direction of the unsucky MMO, where everyone in the forums is really happy and positive.

https://www.lotro.com/en/forums/forums.php

Say anything negative about Turbine, point out someone is posting idiotic comments and you easily get perma-banned, so it's as near to a group-hug forum as I've seen.

Probably 90% of posters here, including myself, would have been banned there long ago.

ROTFLMAO.

I quit LotRO a little over a year ago in disgust over Turbine's terrible management of, well, everything; and their ham-fisted forum moderation. And I was never banned or even warned for anything there, not even once. I just saw it happen too many times to others.

Froggmann5 wrote: »

PLEASE READ THIS!

Listen. I'll be quite frank. There are hundreds of bugs that need to be dealt with immediately. These bugs need full attention, and they need it now. Please put the Craglorn Project to the side for however long it takes, you have no reason to be putting out an update that could potentially bring more harm than good to a game that is already in the, "more harm" category. Please fix what you have instead of trying to release Craglorn as a save-face!

Things such as -

• Combat: The sluggishness and delays before the attack actually fires makes it grueling to even try to PvP/PvE. This, and combat animations completely failing to show at most points, taking damage for an attack I cannot see is not fun.
• Quests: The main quest is still giving people issues. I will also include bot farming as a key element here. People have found a way to create free accounts. Find this issue and fix it. If you are, please let us know.
• WereWolves/Vampires: You know the issues with this. Werewolves hinder the player and give almost no bonuses, while vampires are severely over powered when mixed with emperor status.
• Veteran Level Content: This needs to be redone. The lore is off, no explanation as to why people refer to you as 'Soulless' after you redeemed your soul. The XP is not enough to justify spending hours grinding mobs. This is understandable, the grinding that is, however the particle-like XP we get from grinding them is horrendous and seems never-ending.

An MMO is not made like any other Generic Game out on the market. You need to mold and shape it overtime. Nothing will get perfect in a day, or week, or month, we understand this. However, do not put time and effort in a place that it is not needed when players are already struggling to get by with the bugs that exist now.

First off:
Vampires are not overpowered. In fact they suck pretty damn bad. The passives don't work as intended (bugged... bad), the ult was already nerfed, and mistform was even nerfed to the point people (most) don't even use it now. Drain? Animations often bug it out making the target immune (drained status) without actually stunning or draining. Moreover you can only use it once per target (and you can be interupted which nulls it) which makes your argument incorrect yet again. I suggest you actually get some real experience before parroting all the dunderheaded fartbrains that whine endlessly on the forums. What you are doing is the equivalent to spreading disease.

VR content is fine and working as intended. It is meant to give each faction the chance to see the quests / stories from the other 2 factions without needing to reroll. You are put off because the Molag Bal thing is not adjusted into the storyline? Really? Seems like you just want to complain.

kaer426 wrote: »

Ok guys, point me in the direction of the unsucky MMO, where everyone in the forums is really happy and positive.

I'd point to eve-online But that one is really a special place, for special people . I hear hello kitty online users are also quite happy and everything, haven't been there yet though. I could point at another one, although, much smaller in scale than any other MMO's, it has a erm... special kind of crowd... Can't mention it here, as it's 18+, and only a few people managed to find it ^_^.

So there are mmo's where people are mostly helpful, but they're not your typical mainstream mmo .

As for people arguing about end game content, as far as I'm concerned, the game has 50 levels. The VR levels are end game content. Having nearly finished the 3rd alliance now (minus the few bugged quests/achievements still hanging in there), I think the money paid, Vs the time I played was fair.

One example, price Wise, was KOTOR1. The game could be finished in Under 30hours of gameplay, and it was, back then (about 10 or 15 years ago when it came out), priced at around €40 or so. Basically, if you cut down on sleeping a bit, you could do an entire play thru of KOTOR between Friday evening, and Sunday night.

I've been doing that a few times on TESO, since pre-launched (yes, it is getting harder with age, so I actually sleep now ). On a pure price/gameplay time comparison, TESO offered me well over 3 full play thru of KOTOR, which would already be over the 100 price+15 for the 2nd month, so yes, the sum of the original buying cost was high (I did go for the physical imp edition, the book and statue had to be mine...), but for anyone going for the normal edition, the price is quite acceptable considering the amount of playtime you'll need to even reach L50.

Now, I completely agree, I am a very heavy user (gaming time Wise). I spend most of my weekends playing, if not ESO, something else, and most of my evenings after work. So for me, the first month, included with the purchase, offered me a lot more time than it would to any casual gamer, especially since I, miraculously, happened to have 11days off work, starting the day of the 5 days early access... and what wonderful 2 weeks those were, playing every day, for hours and hours and hours and hours...

Considering the amount of playtime and quests present in the game, the amount of people online at one time, I think the amount of bugs present are quite small. Yes, they are EXTREMELLY annoying when you get them (being a vampire, and NOT empress, I have to relog every time I die, to stop dying constantly... not sure which passive gets buggered after I die, but I'm basically useless if I die once without relogging).

Even with those issues, as annoying as they are, I think they did a pretty good job, although many of the choices and ways they went, I do not agree with, I think it is quite ok for a brand new MMO. Not what I was hoping for, not really making me feel like an actual ES game, but all in all, it's quite ok

So cheer up people, let's just grab a Khajiit, and roast it so we can all feast happily together.

edit:

TLDR: well, too bad for you.

JD2013 wrote: »

The sense of entitlement on here is reaching critical levels.

The game has been released for just over a month now, yes? Go ahead and show me any MMO that has not released with bugs and problems. Go ahead. I'll wait.

WoW has had 10 years to iron problems out. Lord of The Rings Online has had 7 years. Not just over one month. For the love of goodness.

I am level 26. I am not rushing through it as it's not a race. I have encountered two very minor bugs so far. That's it. And a couple of server disconnections.

I am fairly sure that Zenimax are very aware of problems and are working to get them ironed out as well as adding new content into the game. The problem is that you are comparing this game to games that have been out for years, not months.

A little patience goes a long way, people.

I can not show you an MMO that have had no bugs on launch. On the other hand i can not name a single one that have been close to this level. These are not just small bugs. We have had tons of progression blocking bugs, duping of items, people actually logging in to other peoples accounts while they use their own login, for the first 3 weeks i would fall through the floor and have to alt+F4 about 5 times a day, people have had their entire banks erased, skill points erased, you name it. Its been bad. I actually really like the game, but you have to be a seriously deluded fanboy to say that this launch have not been a disaster.

JD2013 wrote: »

Amfijakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The sense of entitlement on here is reaching critical levels.

The game has been released for just over a month now, yes? Go ahead and show me any MMO that has not released with bugs and problems. Go ahead. I'll wait.

WoW has had 10 years to iron problems out. Lord of The Rings Online has had 7 years. Not just over one month. For the love of goodness.

I am level 26. I am not rushing through it as it's not a race. I have encountered two very minor bugs so far. That's it. And a couple of server disconnections.

I am fairly sure that Zenimax are very aware of problems and are working to get them ironed out as well as adding new content into the game. The problem is that you are comparing this game to games that have been out for years, not months.

A little patience goes a long way, people.

I can not show you an MMO that have had no bugs on launch. On the other hand i can not name a single one that have been close to this level. These are not just small bugs. We have had tons of progression blocking bugs, duping of items, people actually logging in to other peoples accounts while they use their own login, for the first 3 weeks i would fall through the floor and have to alt+F4 about 5 times a day, people have had their entire banks erased, skill points erased, you name it. Its been bad. I actually really like the game, but you have to be a seriously deluded fanboy to say that this launch have not been a disaster.

Ah, so because I actually enjoy the game I am a deluded fanboy? Great retort.

And if you want disaster, look up FF XIV.

you are purposely misquoting me. I said that you would have to be a deluded fanboy to state that this launch have not been really bad. I myself said that i enjoyed the game.

Amfijakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Amfijakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The sense of entitlement on here is reaching critical levels.

The game has been released for just over a month now, yes? Go ahead and show me any MMO that has not released with bugs and problems. Go ahead. I'll wait.

WoW has had 10 years to iron problems out. Lord of The Rings Online has had 7 years. Not just over one month. For the love of goodness.

I am level 26. I am not rushing through it as it's not a race. I have encountered two very minor bugs so far. That's it. And a couple of server disconnections.

I am fairly sure that Zenimax are very aware of problems and are working to get them ironed out as well as adding new content into the game. The problem is that you are comparing this game to games that have been out for years, not months.

A little patience goes a long way, people.

I can not show you an MMO that have had no bugs on launch. On the other hand i can not name a single one that have been close to this level. These are not just small bugs. We have had tons of progression blocking bugs, duping of items, people actually logging in to other peoples accounts while they use their own login, for the first 3 weeks i would fall through the floor and have to alt+F4 about 5 times a day, people have had their entire banks erased, skill points erased, you name it. Its been bad. I actually really like the game, but you have to be a seriously deluded fanboy to say that this launch have not been a disaster.

Ah, so because I actually enjoy the game I am a deluded fanboy? Great retort.

And if you want disaster, look up FF XIV.

you are purposely misquoting me. I said that you would have to be a deluded fanboy to state that this launch have not been really bad. I myself said that i enjoyed the game.

I have seen much worse than this launch. Fact. I am not saying there are not problems. Absolutely not. But the game has been out for just over a month. I've always been able to get on except for maintenance times. I am enjoying myself in game. I am looking forward to getting to Veteran Ranks as I am keen to see the other areas and quest more. The amount of hours you can put into the game make it well worth the sub price alone.

The worst thing I personally have encountered is some slowdown and a "Missing" box.

There are problems, but again consider the amount of time the game has been out and that there are only so many hours in a day the teams can work. They will be fixing it.

Catflinger wrote: »

Squishy wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Ok guys, point me in the direction of the unsucky MMO, where everyone in the forums is really happy and positive.

I'd point to eve-online

........... and you'd be extremely misinformed, or very new to EVE.

yeah some people like getting those 30 day sub ingame items, put it in a wreck, and wait for noobs and trials to come and try to take it if they do they can be targeted by everyone! when my ship blew up up in 5 seconds after trying to take one I just kept thinking, i'm so stupid, ended that trial. But still never stopped me from starting others, its a good game but kind of to late for me to join unless i throw all my time away. I prefer being part of launches. It gives me a sense like this is my game, since I am helping it grow, and ESO is i beautiful game that is something new I haven't seen in an mmo before

Amfijakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Amfijakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Amfijakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

The sense of entitlement on here is reaching critical levels.

The game has been released for just over a month now, yes? Go ahead and show me any MMO that has not released with bugs and problems. Go ahead. I'll wait.

WoW has had 10 years to iron problems out. Lord of The Rings Online has had 7 years. Not just over one month. For the love of goodness.

I am level 26. I am not rushing through it as it's not a race. I have encountered two very minor bugs so far. That's it. And a couple of server disconnections.

I am fairly sure that Zenimax are very aware of problems and are working to get them ironed out as well as adding new content into the game. The problem is that you are comparing this game to games that have been out for years, not months.

A little patience goes a long way, people.

I can not show you an MMO that have had no bugs on launch. On the other hand i can not name a single one that have been close to this level. These are not just small bugs. We have had tons of progression blocking bugs, duping of items, people actually logging in to other peoples accounts while they use their own login, for the first 3 weeks i would fall through the floor and have to alt+F4 about 5 times a day, people have had their entire banks erased, skill points erased, you name it. Its been bad. I actually really like the game, but you have to be a seriously deluded fanboy to say that this launch have not been a disaster.

Ah, so because I actually enjoy the game I am a deluded fanboy? Great retort.

And if you want disaster, look up FF XIV.

you are purposely misquoting me. I said that you would have to be a deluded fanboy to state that this launch have not been really bad. I myself said that i enjoyed the game.

I have seen much worse than this launch. Fact. I am not saying there are not problems. Absolutely not. But the game has been out for just over a month. I've always been able to get on except for maintenance times. I am enjoying myself in game. I am looking forward to getting to Veteran Ranks as I am keen to see the other areas and quest more. The amount of hours you can put into the game make it well worth the sub price alone.

The worst thing I personally have encountered is some slowdown and a "Missing" box.

There are problems, but again consider the amount of time the game has been out and that there are only so many hours in a day the teams can work. They will be fixing it.

Well it sounds like you have been luckier than most. Being lvl 26 it also seem reasonable to assume that you have either been late to the party or play in small doses.

Yeah, I play in small doses. I'm definitely not a hardcore person. I have tons of work and other things to contend with. I play at most 3 - 4 hours, 4 times a week. I also like to find everything I can in the game world. I think if i played more I probably would be burned out.