Pretty sure digging up a treasure map isn't that difficult for most people and requires no skill line to be unlocked, neither does a level or cp point gain (I know someone will come in and point out that they have all 20 character slots full and are at 3600 cp, so go dig up a treasure map since you probably learned how to do that in those 3600 cp levels.)

Grouping up with guild members is encouraged during this event. It's no different than PvP being encouraged for Whitestrake, dungeons being encouraged for Undaunted, etc. Not every event is made for every individual. People already complain that there are too many events, so skip the ones that don't appeal to you.

I personally find it kind of disheartening that you can only earn very limited amount of boxes from Zenithar-related activities (such as crafting and trading) and instead you are encouraged to grind gargoyle portals in Craglorn.

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

Pretty sure digging up a treasure map isn't that difficult for most people and requires no skill line to be unlocked, neither does a level or cp point gain (I know someone will come in and point out that they have all 20 character slots full and are at 3600 cp, so go dig up a treasure map since you probably learned how to do that in those 3600 cp levels.)

Grouping up with guild members is encouraged during this event. It's no different than PvP being encouraged for Whitestrake, dungeons being encouraged for Undaunted, etc. Not every event is made for every individual. People already complain that there are too many events, so skip the ones that don't appeal to you.

Treasure map =/= Antiquity...

I did earn quite a lot of boxes yesterday and it just served to remind me why I don't usually bother with doing so this event.

95% of their content was unneeded inventory filling junk!!

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

Pretty sure digging up a treasure map isn't that difficult for most people and requires no skill line to be unlocked, neither does a level or cp point gain (I know someone will come in and point out that they have all 20 character slots full and are at 3600 cp, so go dig up a treasure map since you probably learned how to do that in those 3600 cp levels.)

Grouping up with guild members is encouraged during this event. It's no different than PvP being encouraged for Whitestrake, dungeons being encouraged for Undaunted, etc. Not every event is made for every individual. People already complain that there are too many events, so skip the ones that don't appeal to you.

Treasure map =/= Antiquity...

A treasure map is an option. It's not only an antiquity.

Also, this is the event that celebrates guilds. Complaints about needing to group with guildmates is just as nonsensical as saying "ugh, why do I have to PvP during the PvP event!" or "ugh, why do I have to go to a particular zone for the zone events!"

And yes, ZOS does have an ulterior motive for this as well. They want players to be in guilds. They want players to be social with others and make friends. Because then you're more likely to keep logging into ESO if you have friends there, as opposed to something like playing The Sims where you go hardcore for 3 days and then put the game down for 6 months.

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

Pretty sure digging up a treasure map isn't that difficult for most people and requires no skill line to be unlocked, neither does a level or cp point gain (I know someone will come in and point out that they have all 20 character slots full and are at 3600 cp, so go dig up a treasure map since you probably learned how to do that in those 3600 cp levels.)

Grouping up with guild members is encouraged during this event. It's no different than PvP being encouraged for Whitestrake, dungeons being encouraged for Undaunted, etc. Not every event is made for every individual. People already complain that there are too many events, so skip the ones that don't appeal to you.

Treasure map =/= Antiquity...

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Not sure what you mean by this comment. If you are referring to one of the 2 daily quests associated with the event, then you have a choice to do one of the following: dig up a treasure chest from a treasure map, excavate an antiquity, or spend 10K at the guild trader. Clearly, digging up a chest is accessible by everyone, so I do not see how this quest can have a dreadful condition.

What 2 daily quests are there? Khajiit is aware of "Honest Toil" - what is the other?

karthrag_inak wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Not sure what you mean by this comment. If you are referring to one of the 2 daily quests associated with the event, then you have a choice to do one of the following: dig up a treasure chest from a treasure map, excavate an antiquity, or spend 10K at the guild trader. Clearly, digging up a chest is accessible by everyone, so I do not see how this quest can have a dreadful condition.

What 2 daily quests are there? Khajiit is aware of "Honest Toil" - what is the other?

Yes, it's only 1. For some reason I thought that the Priest quest is the daily one too. Must have mixed it up with something else.

I just see it as an optional activity that players can choose to do if it fits in with their interests.

Every event has a goal of driving player activity, but they also have secondary goals. In this case it's encouraging players to try the crafting systems, join guilds and buy from guild stores to help drive those particular activities -- among a few other things. I think those things are very important to the health of the community and the MMO side of the game. Sometimes people need to be nudged out of their comfort zones to try new things.

We can't expect everything to suit us individually. I think this event is good, even though I don't feel especially motivated to participate. I think the extremely rewarding events drive obsessive behaviour and result in dopamine burnout when they're over.

Sarannah wrote: »

Master writs should always work for purple boxes during the zenithar event! Make it only for those who have maxed out their crafting skilllines fully and are 9-trait crafters, to be able to receive an unlimited amount of purple zenithar boxes from master writs. Maybe check this through a character based achievement that is only active once all skilllines have all crafting skills filled with skillpoints and all traits are researched.

This would allow players who truly invest into crafting on every character, to benefit from the crafter's event.

Getting materials, doing surveys, doing crafting dailies every day, collecting skillpoints, gathering motifs, doing research, etc... getting and doing many master writs is NOT easy or cheap, and should be rewarded during the crafter's event.

PS: I'm not in a guild, but I am a crafter who is left out of the crafter's event.

The opening post shows why this is a very bad idea. It takes a long time to become a nine trait crafter. The restrictions in place now are easily reached even by new players if they wish. Requiring nine traits would exclude all new players and many veteran players and they would have no ability during the event to change that status. I know players who have been here from the beginning that don't have a fully leveled crafter. Instead of having one character that does it all they streamlined the research among a few characters so they are covered across their account but not necessarily on one character.
That aside the reason master writs don't always work is because players tend to horde master writs allowing for potentially 100s to be done during the event. That causes the problem ZoS was trying to get away from.

You can join a guild and begin participating immediately. You choose not to. Players who haven't yet fully leveled a crafter wouldn't have an option at all.

For me there's nothing to spend my tickets on. I had this problem in the last event. I have all the Indriks. There is only one new motif style. Everything else is a pet, body marking or a dress? Need more of a variety. Furnishings? Something else.

I'm just not sure why the anniversary event rewards boxes for every crafting writ daily and the crafting event gives exactly one a day for the daily crafting writs per account. The Zenithar boxes are much less rewarding than the anniversary event boxes.

What’s the harm with them dropping from every master writ?

Frayton wrote: »

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

I understand why the original earning conditions for the purple boxes for the Zenithar event has been modified.

What happened? Why was it changed!

The first Zenithar event all master writs dropped a purple zenithar box. This was changed to only 1 per craftingskill, due to some players spamming hundreds of master writs for purple zenithar boxes.

In my opinion that was a bad change, as being a maxed crafter takes a lot of time and effort. And even if some players spammed master writs for zenithar boxes, they had to gain those master writs first to be able to do so. Also, master writs are not endless, players can only spam these once, and then they are gone forever. Take into account that purple zenithar boxes drop mostly junk, this was an unneeded change(one would think getting rid of that many *non-stackable back then* master writs would save ZOS on database space).

This took crafting out of the crafter's event.

kargen27 wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Master writs should always work for purple boxes during the zenithar event! Make it only for those who have maxed out their crafting skilllines fully and are 9-trait crafters, to be able to receive an unlimited amount of purple zenithar boxes from master writs. Maybe check this through a character based achievement that is only active once all skilllines have all crafting skills filled with skillpoints and all traits are researched.

This would allow players who truly invest into crafting on every character, to benefit from the crafter's event.

Getting materials, doing surveys, doing crafting dailies every day, collecting skillpoints, gathering motifs, doing research, etc... getting and doing many master writs is NOT easy or cheap, and should be rewarded during the crafter's event.

PS: I'm not in a guild, but I am a crafter who is left out of the crafter's event.

The opening post shows why this is a very bad idea. It takes a long time to become a nine trait crafter. The restrictions in place now are easily reached even by new players if they wish. Requiring nine traits would exclude all new players and many veteran players and they would have no ability during the event to change that status. I know players who have been here from the beginning that don't have a fully leveled crafter. Instead of having one character that does it all they streamlined the research among a few characters so they are covered across their account but not necessarily on one character.
That aside the reason master writs don't always work is because players tend to horde master writs allowing for potentially 100s to be done during the event. That causes the problem ZoS was trying to get away from.

You can join a guild and begin participating immediately. You choose not to. Players who haven't yet fully leveled a crafter wouldn't have an option at all.

This would not remove the boxes with guildies from world bosses reward.... so no, nothing would be taken away from anyone! It would only add an extra way to gain boxes for actual crafters.

PS: If they haven't fully leveled a crafter after years of playing, they aren't crafters!

Sure they are crafters. Did you not see where they decided to spread the crafting out among their characters? I didn't claim it would remove boxes from doing guild activities. I claimed it would exclude some players from going the crafting route and those players would have no way of changing being excluded. You could change not doing guild things with two clicks of a button. You would have two options available to you meaning the opportunity for many more boxes while they would have only the one opportunity available.
There is a difference in not wanting to participate and being unable to participate. Seeing how players react to the guild aspect shows how bad an idea requiring fully leveled crafters would be.

These are not maxed crafters, only for a small part invested into crafting. Meaning those restrictions as I layed out would be a fair trade-off for getting purple zenithar boxes from master writs. For full crafters only.

And I am unable to join a guild at this moment, my gameplay has not advanced to that level yet.

Probably the best way is to farm IA with a guildmate, but yes, there's not many ways to acquire a lot of boxes, like other events. I think the guildmate requirement is cool though, it's nice to have an event that encourages people being active in guilds. It's a pity though for crafters who were looking forward to do their master writs this event.