Dismally low drop rate

mattaeus01b16_ESO · May 2

Ill-Gotten Goods bag have a just god awful drop rate.
I mean, BAD.
So here is the just of it.... I spend 7 hours farming a negative bounty (Currently 1,000,000+) Because I am told that the drop rate will improve.
For the first 3 hours I farmed people (Pickpocketing + Blade or Woe), I received 1 Bag from my first kill, and 1 bad from a daily.
Several hours later of farming stolen good containers, I received 1 more bag from a Thief Trove.
4+ hours of farming NPCs and killing 1000s by pick pocket, blade of woe AND mass killing, netted me 5 bags (about)
These bag contained literally NOTHING other then junk... Nor did the other 4 or 5 I received after words.

It was disappointing to say, that my time was used to to do this.

Now, Im sure this is "As intended", and if so, there doesn't seem to be a reason to do this event. Considering the only way to ensure that you get a Bag is by completing 2 dailies, one of which I despise, it will be a hard pass.

In short.. Drop rate poop... Drops give poop.

Katheriah · May 2

I got some of the bags from the daily quests, but the content was just... not worth it.

FadeShade · May 2

Yes, the bags contain trash. I suppose then that the terribly low drop rate is maybe not so bad since it means less trash to dispose of.

The contents are also bugged.

The only upside, I think, is the double gold from fencing stolen stuff. Would've been nice to add a doubling of the number of items that could be fenced/laundered per day, though.

mattaeus01b16_ESO · May 2

Soooooo, it seems you can do the Dark Brotherhood quest "Marked for death" over and over and over... and get Ill gotten rewards.
Is this not considered repeatable?

Syldras · May 2

I got two of these things from pickpocketing. One each on separate days. And in both cases it was the 2nd or 3rd npc I stole from. I wasn't even farming, it was more or less coincidentally. Wouldn't say it is worth it, though, as both boxes only contained trash items.

SpiritKitten · May 2

I did the thieves guild dailies which I had doubled up on and out of the bags that I got I only got one new furnishing and the rest was just treasure to sell. I stopped doing the event after that because if in the guaranteed bag I'm only going to get trash then what is the point. I'll just buy the furnishings later off guild vendors.

karthrag_inak · May 2

Khajiit got this in his first "ill-gotten goods" bag today. Not too shabby - can be laundered and apparently sold/traded, although is not useful for this one - all 19 of khajiit's khajiit (and argonian with fluffy delusions) have been lvl 20 in leger for years.

HybridFreak · May 2

Yeah, the drop rate on the pouches is absolutely terrible. I spent over an hour this morning opening safe boxes and doing the pick, pick, stab and got a grand total of 2 pouches. And both of them garbage in them. Trying to farm them 100% seems like a waste of time.

Bithabus · May 3

The new coin furnishings are selling for millions on PCNA because the drop rate is so horrible. I gave up hope of getting any.

Syldras · May 3

Does anyone have a list of all new furnishings from this event?

Ishtarknows · May 3

Syldras wrote: »

Does anyone have a list of all new furnishings from this event?

Erorah wrote: »

Right. So also there are supposed to be furnishings in these pouches.. which in my meagre 2 I found zero.
Besides stating that pouches can reward ANY of the furnishings that can be had through crime such as this, there are new furnishings...They are:
Coin Pile, Small
Coin Pile, Tall
Coin, Single
Crime Notice, Large
Crime Notice, Small
I REALLY hope these things will actually drop.. Hell, I first want the pouches to drop!

Askys94 · May 3

Drop rates are weird, Yesturday i went on a pickpocket spree in Skywatch and got 14 bags, all filled with meh stuff sadly.
The day before that i ran Safeboxes in Vverdenfell and got 3 bags (Luckily one contained the painting >:D )
Today i ran both some safeboxes and Skywatch and got none.

So yea, its real weird RNG.
Also apperently? the chance boost caps at 1500 bounty, not 100% sure tho.

HybridFreak · May 3

I'm thinking they did a stealth buff to the pouch drop rate. The first day of the event, I spent hours and walked away with 2. Last night I got like 10 in 30 minutes.

allochthons · May 3

I've been doing the Thieves Guild / Dark Brotherhood quests on 4 characters, including 1 or 2 of the Elam Drals quests. So 4 quests per day on 4 characters. And random pick pocketing, safe box cracking, and thieves troves, out of which I've gotten maybe 2 pouches.

I've gotten 3 of the legerdemain scrolls, and 1 Coin Pile, Small. Not very exciting. And I've thought the phrase "event fatigue" multiple times per day while playing.

What I have been enjoying greatly is the increased fence interactions. I'm leveling legerdemain on a few toons and it's helped a lot.

allochthons · May 3

However, I hadn't realized the legerdemain scrolls weren't bound until I read this thread. That's actually pretty great. I hope those drop again in the future, maybe from heist rewards?

Orbital78 · May 3

allochthons wrote: »

What I have been enjoying greatly is the increased fence interactions. I'm leveling legerdemain on a few toons and it's helped a lot.

Yes, it has been an excuse to level those skill lines on some alts. I wish they would have given Thieves guild more love though. The killing sprees for the brotherhood give pouches but not the crime sprees for thieves. It doesn't make much sense to me. I got ~20+ pouches for doing killing sprees and ended up with one coin and an velothi tapestry. Today was the first time I got anything of note.

mattaeus01b16_ESO · May 3

Yesterday netted a Crime Notice, small.
And 5 Tips on Legerdemain.
About 60 bags were opened.
This is the first furnishing I received in the 2 days. And honestly, I cant convince anyone I know to join in on the event.

"I might level a toon or two in the Thieves guild/Dark Brotherhood, but thats it"

kargen27 · May 3

Orbital78 wrote: »

allochthons wrote: »

What I have been enjoying greatly is the increased fence interactions. I'm leveling legerdemain on a few toons and it's helped a lot.

Yes, it has been an excuse to level those skill lines on some alts. I wish they would have given Thieves guild more love though. The killing sprees for the brotherhood give pouches but not the crime sprees for thieves. It doesn't make much sense to me. I got ~20+ pouches for doing killing sprees and ended up with one coin and an velothi tapestry. Today was the first time I got anything of note.

I'm for the most part using the event to get the Larceny achievement in DLC zones I've been ignoring. If I get a pouch along the way that is icing on the cake.

mattaeus01b16_ESO · May 3

1 solid hour of pick pick woe got me 1 bag.

Syldras · May 3

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

1 solid hour of pick pick woe got me 1 bag.

But you got soap (that you can't even use)!

mattaeus01b16_ESO · May 3

Syldras wrote: »

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

1 solid hour of pick pick woe got me 1 bag.

But you got soap (that you can't even use)!

I SHAL BATHE IN THE GLORY OF MY ILL GOTTEN GOODS!!!

mattaeus01b16_ESO · May 4

3 hours of farming.
41 bags in total.

Take it as you will.

Erorah · May 4

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

3 hours of farming.
41 bags in total.

Take it as you will.

Atrocious

Zeldrosi · May 4

I got 7 bags in about 2 hours of pickpocketing. Needless to say I won't be doing any more, because they were all full of garbage.

mattaeus01b16_ESO · May 4

50 bags opened...

Total of 7 Monk's Disguises

1 old Furnishing...

And thats 10 Tips on Legerdermain so far.

Grendalism · May 4

PS-EU

Drop rate of I’ll-gotten gain bags very poor from safe boxes and pickpocketing, even with bounty >1500.

Once you get the IGG bags, the contents are very poor too…just “treasure” predominantly.

@ZOS_GinaBruno the Crimewave event could be significantly improved by:
- giving a guaranteed drop from all safe boxes
- 25% drop rate from pickpocketing
- Allowing the Event furnishings to be purchased from TG achievement vendor(if black market mogul acquired)
- Increasing drop rate of pickpocketed furnishings (skulls etc) during the event

shadyjane62 · May 4

Worst event ever.

Bithabus · May 4

The new coins are gorgeous but they wont let us have any because the drop rate is set very very low. Thanks a lot.

Orbital78 · May 4

I managed to get the single coin, and a Velothi waterfall tapestry. This event could be much better, make them bound if need be but increase the drop rate.

Barovia87 · May 4

It seems like anytime they introduce a grindy Event &/or a new grind into an existing Event, the first round is miserly and awful with terrible RNG. Example: the drop rates for the iconic Replica Style Pages introduced during last year's Jubilee event. They were bound, couldn't be bought for tickets last year, and the drop rates were downright punishing.

But by the time those pages were available again this year during the Pan-Tamriel event, they could be bought for tickets and the drop rates were SIGNIFICANTLY increased.

I suspect Round #1 of new Events/Event content is essentially a Beta test of the new content (you'd think that's what the PTS is for...?) and - rightly or wrongly - they err on the side of caution rather than generosity, knowing they can adjust by next time after collecting data the first time.

I see the logic of that. But I also feel like they sometimes take it too far: disrespecting player's time in the moment with downright miserly odds, with nebulous plans of being "better" next time. Some people simply aren't going to give your Event or your game another shot if you wantonly insult their time and effort when they ARE presently engaged with your content.

I would not be surprised if by the next time the Crime Wave event rolls around, it's a lot more forgiving. I also don't blame anyone writing it off after what looks like another awful preliminary experience that seems hell-bent on wasting everyone's time.

Silaf · May 4

I've completed the collection of all the new furnishings distributed with this event... it wasen't cheap.

I'm happy for the introduction of new rare items since the game economy needs them but the low drop rate disincentived me from partecipating in the event.

I've played the first 2 days but after only wasting time had to give up.

Maybe next time ZOS should give some worthwile rewards toghether with rare items like bags of gold (not furnishings common gold) and not start an event togheter with a gold pursuit.

Bithabus wrote: »

The new coins are gorgeous but they wont let us have any because the drop rate is set very very low. Thanks a lot.

Well the "dragon treasure trove" is better. This was a good occasion to make it come back too.