Ardent Flame
• Molten Whip
  change the "Seething Fury" stacks so that a use of Molten Whip consume one Stack per use, because the Skills of "Ardent Flame" are not somthing you recast every 3 Sec to build up the "Seething Fury" stacks.
  
• Warmth: This passive now causes direct damage from Ardent Flame abilities to increase the damage an enemy takes from your damage over time attacks by 3/6% and reduce their Movement Speed by 15/30%, instead of only reducing their Movement Speed.
  Increase the time from 3 sec to 6 sec, like "Spear Wall" from Templer
  
  
  Draconic Power
  
• Iron Skin
  like the Templerpassiv "Piercing Spear" gives Critical Damage ann damage done to blocking players, give "Iron Skin" amount of damage you block and Critical resistances
  
• Elder Dragon: This passive now increases your Health Recovery by 161/323 per Draconic Ability slotted, up from 129/258.
  For the heavie nerv of Combustion and Battle Roar give some Magicka and Stamina Recovery

MashmalloMan wrote: »

To piggy back off my previous comment about swapping Bound Armor with Rune Prison to make Sorcerer skill lines better balanced in the new subclassing world....

I'd like to further suggest you consider rebalancing how Aedric Spear and Dawn's Wrath are designed for Templar. As it stands, Dawn's Wrath carries 4/5 damage related skills in comparison to Aedric Spear's 2/5 damage related skills, yet Aedric Spear carries most if not all the important damage related passives. This makes it very difficult for a Templar to subclass effectively like Sorcerer.

My suggestion is to swap Piercing Javelin with Solar Flare, Focused Charge with Backlash, and Sun Shield with Radiant Destruction. The results:

Aedric Spear

• Puncturing Strikes
• Solar Flare
• Backlash
• Spear Shards
• Radiant Destruction

Dawn's Wrath:

• Sun Fire
• Piercing Javelin
• Focused Charge
• Eclipse
• Sun Shield

And look, I know this isn't a perfect solution. It's obvious many of these skills have "sun" visual effects, and others have "spear" related effects. To that point, I'd like to highlight the fact that Sun Shield has nothing to do with spears and Power of the Light has a spear appear above the enemies head. I'd argue vfx are the least of our concern 11 years into this game since these classes were originally designed under a completely different architecture and design phylopshy that didn't support hybridization or subclassing. At some point, we need to think about the mechanics of how things operate instead of being stuck with how things look and how a skill line was named, things that could be changed pretty easily to support better game design.

At the very least, swap Sun Shield for Backlash if you disagree. They're already in the wrong lines from a narrow vfx perspective.

Also update "Enduring Rays" passive to actually do something, no one who plays this game finds "+2s duration to class abilities" as a fun, egaging, or interesting bonus. Either build in the 2s to the skills or remove it completely. 2/3 skills last 20/30s, which means adding 2s makes them awkward timers at 22/32s which lines up with absolutely nothing in the game. I guarantee 90%+ players who engage with Sun Fire or Solar Flare morphs in a rotation, cast them early.

Enduring Rays converted to a DPS perspective would be like saying "increase 2 skills total damage by 10% if you refresh the skills 2s late over 20-30s."

To be more specific:

• +1 tick of Reflective Light is +10% DMG
• +1 tick of Vampire's Bane is +6.6% DMG
• +1 tick of Solar Barrage is +9% DMG

Nova it makes a decent difference because they only last 8s, but again, just bake in the +2s without the passive.. in fact, make it +5s because these skills have been underperforming haven't they?

I'm not a Templar main, that's my take.

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Alaztor91 wrote: »

Can Blighted Blastbones receive this treatment please?

Blighted Blastbones can be:
-CCed after spawning and if the CC is long enough, be completely disabled until the skill becomes available to use again(the game won't allow you to recast the skill if the Skeleton is still ''active'', even if it is stuck in a CC which it can't break), thus ''wasting the skill cast''
-Affected by Silence Ground AoEs(and end up completely disabled until the AoE ends or BB timer runs out), even though it is a ''Stamina Skill'' and even if casted outside the AoE effect. I assume this happens because the Skeleton is treated as an NPC and is Stunned instead of Silenced(BB can't use break free)
-Unable to reach the target under certain conditions like for example if the target teleports to an unreachable location(Sarydil in Coral Aerie), or the target ''phases out''(Darkshard in Bedlam Veil). The main issue with this is that unlike most skills that would simply ''fail'' in this scenario, the Skeleton will just stay there doing nothing until the duration of the skill runs out and most of the time won't attempt to pick a new target.

Changing this skill into a ''visual effect that completes the attack'' similar to something like Scorch from Wardens would imo greatly improve the skill and make its usage in combat scenarios smoother and more reliable. There is no scenario in where this particular skill being a ''summoned entity with AI'' ends up being better than a ''visual effect that completes the attack'' gameplay wise.

I don't like this suggestion; blastbones is a pet and is useful in PvP as a way to intercept enemy attacks, your suggested change would make it not a pet and not block any attacks in PvP.

Calling this a “pet” has always been a bit of a stretch of the term. It lasts for a few seconds. Why even bother?

Your constantly recasting it, and kiting around it absorbing damage, and then 3 seconds later you have another one.

If you have cmx and see your damage output to a necro, you will see like 30 instances of blastbones. It's absorbing damage.

It's actually cheesey when used right.

I think you may have misunderstood the point I was making. I’m not denying that mechanically Blastbones is classified as a pet or that it can serve as a damage sponge. My comment was aimed at how un-petlike the implementation feels in practice—short-lived, uncontrollable, and without persistent presence. That’s quite different from, say, a Sorcerer’s summons or a Warden’s bear, which feel more like actual companions.

In that context, I was questioning the usefulness of calling it a “pet” in terms of player experience and design coherence, not disputing the damage output or interaction with combat metrics.

I mean, in most lore necromancers summon dead Companions to do their bidding. Blastbones is exactly that. They had to do something to make it useful. For a burst ability, I can't really think of any better way of making a necromancer burst ability that keeps the theme of necromancy. The only other thing i can think of is Kjalners skelly hand.

Blastbones definitely fits the theme, and does just fine in my book. Arguably the best delayed burst tools in the game. Shalks is prolly number 1 with blastbones close behind.

The only thing I can sorta agree on, is that blastbones struggles finding a target sometimes. So it can be harder to control sometimes.

But all together, blastbones is s tier in my book for a necromancer pet. Just because it doesn't feel like a pet to you, doesn't mean others think the same.

Id love to revert magbones back to what it was previously tho.

I don’t dispute that Blastbones deals damage or that it technically fits the game’s internal pet classification. But to frame it as the quintessential necromancer ability—or as the most faithful thematic expression of necromancy—strikes me as a bit off the mark.

If we look at broader genre precedents, from EverQuest to Diablo, then necromancy tends to emphasize the persistent manipulation of death: managing summoned undead, feeding off corpses, spreading decay, commanding spectral forces. These systems build a relationship between the caster and their minions, whether as extensions of control, rituals of attrition, or engines of dread.

Blastbones, by contrast, feels like a gimmick. A disposable, short-lived animation that often fails to reach its target. It’s neither persistent nor controllable, and lacks the eerie resonance or symbolic weight that traditionally define the archetype. Mechanically, it’s more of a delayed burst than a companion. Thematically, it’s a skeleton-shaped projectile.

If people enjoy it, then that’s their prerogative. But let’s not pretend that a screaming kamikaze corpse is somehow the Platonic ideal of the necromancer fantasy.

StarOfElyon wrote: »

• Swap in Nightblade skill line to get access to Siphoning Attacks. Dropping Draconic Power & Spiked Armor.
• Switch gear to use the Pyreband Set and just make heavy attacks a core part of the rotation (probably what I will try to do first). Doesnt solve the magic sustain though which is the main challenge. Unless I switch one of the stam weapons to a staff I guess.

Twohothardware wrote: »

Casual players are going to log in and be lucky to notice any difference at all. Casual players don't test their DPS on test dummies and that's the only place you're going to notice a difference.

Twohothardware wrote: »

Outside of maybe DK I don't think anyone is going to notice the rest of the sustain changes and DK is probably the least played class in the game if you're not a tank.