I cancelled mine a while back, and have yet to see a compelling reason to resub.

@moderatelyfatman - thanks, that was a kind thing to say! I wish you all the best in game in the future.

Despite the complaints, downsides, and problems with and around ESO, this is still a great game. Therefor I want to keep ESO around, and have no problem paying for a good game. So I am keeping my ESO+ active.

But I do agree with those saying ESO+ and loyal subscribers have been getting the dark side of the moon lately, this is something ZOS needs to work on. As this may actually cost them more subscribers.
Would love to see ZOS add discounts for subscribers, based on months subscribed. And deals for buying ESO+ months, similar to crown pack discounts, but based on duration(40% discount for the yearly). Basically making it worth it to have an active subscription and to keep an active subscription.

Sarannah wrote: »

Despite the complaints, downsides, and problems with and around ESO, this is still a great game. Therefor I want to keep ESO around, and have no problem paying for a good game. So I am keeping my ESO+ active.

But I do agree with those saying ESO+ and loyal subscribers have been getting the dark side of the moon lately, this is something ZOS needs to work on. As this may actually cost them more subscribers.
Would love to see ZOS add discounts for subscribers, based on months subscribed. And deals for buying ESO+ months, similar to crown pack discounts, but based on duration(40% discount for the yearly). Basically making it worth it to have an active subscription and to keep an active subscription.

I agree. I think they missed an opportunity to reinforce the value of ESO plus and perhaps increase subscriber count and percentage of time subscribers stay subbed (I know a lot of ppl only sub once in a while, like during certain events).

They could have made the content pass part of ESO plus. The content would roll out bit by bit over the year. Once you claim it, you "own it," like the most recent companions. So people who don't sub because they wouldn't own the content are satisfied. But since the content trickles out, you really need to stay subbed. I bet subs would have gone up enough to offset loss of the $50 per pass upfront revenue. Pre-purchase bonuses could have been tied to subbing or renewing for a full year. Most people would have been happy. But instead we have this model that makes most people unhappy. And this would have been MUCH easier to understand for newer players and easier to explain. Even the ZOS ees on the stream trying to explain seemed to have a hard time keeping it straight.

Yes for craft bag, double housing slots, double bank, furnishing vault, etc.

I've canceled it several times before during periods when I wasn't playing much. The reality is that the main value of ESO+ for me is the craft bag and the doubled slots for bank storage, housing, and currency. As long as these features remain exclusive to ESO+, unfortunately, I won't be able to cancel it.

Yep I buy it a year at a time...as well as Crowns whenever they are on sale...considering the enetertaimnemt value I get it is quite worth it.

Dragonnord wrote: »

Bad poll.

Where is the option that says?...
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Yeah it's just another Bad faith thread to get the haters to bang on ESO and ZoS...

TaSheen wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

I'm done. No sub, they're all (4 of them) cancelled. I have some time remaining on two accounts, but I'm SO not interested in playing any more.

Only way they could get me back would be to release Erlibru's Cottage and Tor Draioch - and even then I wouldn't sub again.

Why did you decide to quit the game entirely, just curious? Is it the content pass or more like the game isn't fun without Plus and Plus is a bad deal now?

Let's see....

First, I'm not in favor of paying "passes", especially paying for something like dungeons in which I have zero interest; second, I am ABSOLUTELY not interested in subclassing (never have been never will be); third, unless they will guarantee not nerfing pure classes, well I'm done period.

It's okay. I always know when it's time to move on.

You will be missed! 😟

Do you plan to get Oblivion Remastered?

Elvenheart wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

I'm done. No sub, they're all (4 of them) cancelled. I have some time remaining on two accounts, but I'm SO not interested in playing any more.

Only way they could get me back would be to release Erlibru's Cottage and Tor Draioch - and even then I wouldn't sub again.

Why did you decide to quit the game entirely, just curious? Is it the content pass or more like the game isn't fun without Plus and Plus is a bad deal now?

Let's see....

First, I'm not in favor of paying "passes", especially paying for something like dungeons in which I have zero interest; second, I am ABSOLUTELY not interested in subclassing (never have been never will be); third, unless they will guarantee not nerfing pure classes, well I'm done period.

It's okay. I always know when it's time to move on.

You will be missed! 😟

Do you plan to get Oblivion Remastered?

Why thank you!

I don't have the data available for a download that large. I'm going to see if my daughter will grab it for me and ship me a stick.

I've cancelled. There has been a very poor show from ZOS in the last few weeks. Things we as players ask for get ignored such as more inventory space/improved banking structure/less statuettes and things we don't want get done (sub classing / Multiclassing, Game pass that is not really a pass but an annual charge for 6 months and then the reduced ESO+ that has just been reworked as it doesn't include current members so all in all, I personally feel that the long standing players with + have again been overlooked and casually cast aside in favour of new pay to play strategies.
Yes, the perks will be missed, but with current craft bag swollen with stuff from FOMO, having been stuck with 1k trans crystals and 200 reconned daggers, no further need to dye costumes, houses that need nothing more and the long drawn out CP which doesn't really gain from 10% xp boosts when there are 20 events that offer that, the bonuses are just not warranted.
I love the game, having played from year 1 with no breaks, but it's time to take a step back and see how this mess clears up. I will not stop playing, I've investested far too much time & effort and do enjoy playing, but as another poster said, I already have plenty of stock and can do a little inventory management for a few months and will buy + every few months to clear the backlog, but as I don't feel cherished any longer as a subscriber, I'll not subscribe until ZOS offer real value and look to their stalwarts for support in return.

Love you guys, you all rock!

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Quite literally the only reason I sub is for the craft bag and kinda sorta for dungeons. Mainly craftbag. I don't think they'd ever remove that, but with the nightmare that storage and inventory management is in this game, I don't think i'd play the game without it. I don't want the game to be about inventory organization lol and it'd turn into that. Id rather log in, play and not worry about that kinda stuff

Why is inventory such a nightmare for a long time player when you have a full crafting bag, housing chests and storage toons?

Because it is purposely designed to be. The number of items in the game compared to the number of inventory slots is ridiculous. It it purposely designed to be an inventory management nightmare to increase the pain as much as possible to make people spring for the craftbag. But really it just ends up turning a lot of people from the game completely since even the craftbag is not a complete cure. People come from Skyrim, where you can stack items infinitely in a chest, to ESO, where you can't even deconstruct gear to level crafting without paying for a sub. It feels bad, so they bounce.

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Quite literally the only reason I sub is for the craft bag and kinda sorta for dungeons. Mainly craftbag. I don't think they'd ever remove that, but with the nightmare that storage and inventory management is in this game, I don't think i'd play the game without it. I don't want the game to be about inventory organization lol and it'd turn into that. Id rather log in, play and not worry about that kinda stuff

Why is inventory such a nightmare for a long time player when you have a full crafting bag, housing chests and storage toons?

Because it is purposely designed to be. The number of items in the game compared to the number of inventory slots is ridiculous. It it purposely designed to be an inventory management nightmare to increase the pain as much as possible to make people spring for the craftbag. But really it just ends up turning a lot of people from the game completely since even the craftbag is not a complete cure.

It's not like frustrating inventory management is unique to this game. Far from it.
Every contemporary (post-Atari 5200) game that I have played intentionally made/makes inventory management a hassle.
So if it drives people away, then those people just don't like video games, in general, enough to deal with it.

What games are you playing that have inventory management nearly as bad as ESO? Skyrim, Stardew Valley, Minecraft... all have chests were you can stash anything.

ESO is a live service game, so I can see needing to have some limits. But there is no need to purposely have hundreds of crafting materials, many more than can be stored within those limits. It is deliberate. They even changed the crating writ rewards to return not just your own level mats a few years ago, but randomly lower level mats. This was also deliberate.

There is no need at this point to have 32 different potency runes for enchanting, for instance. That is 30 too many... 30 items received by crafters on a regular basis that just clog up inventory. Very much on purpose.

Yep, definitely keeping it. ESO+ is the craftbag and the extra storage space you get from it for me. Now it's also getting a furnishing vault! Finally more room in my bank.

Another design decision that increases the inventory management pain is that items put into a guild bank do not stack with items already there.

To craft master writs, you need to have access to style stones. You get these (mostly) from deconstructing gear. When the game was new, there were just the racial styles, and then a few premium like Primal, etc. As pointed out above, the number of style materials has since ballooned. It is not at all practical to have these on hand without the craft bag.

For a crafting-focused group of like-minded players, you would think forming a guild and using the guild bank would be an potential solution to this. And it should be. But it's not, since the items put in don't stack with existing items. Someone would have to constantly pull out the trait materials, stack them, and put them back.

Yet another decision that makes the game less fun to make the craft bag more essential.

AzuraFan wrote: »

It's pretty clear that the inventory system is limited to drive people toward ESO+ and the craft bag.

I'm not saying it isn't.

I'm saying it's an industry-wide, common feature of today's item-driven/loot-hunt games. They all do it.
And there will be someone on every one of those forums saying that THAT game is the worst.