What is with the bound item obsession

Tenn60 · April 3

Personally I don’t think anything should be character bound(outside of like the way the armor sets are done), but lately it’s been getting a little ridiculous. Why are event furnishings bound, why do I still get cruel pages that are bound that I can’t even sell to my merchant for one gold. I don’t really get this new obsession with let’s see how many things we can make bound. I could care less about selling stuff, but I do like to share with people in my guild, and it floors me some of the items they have decided to bind. I’m guessing next patch all motifs and furniture plans will be bound then after that they’ll do a maintenance patch to bind mats just to be safe from whatever issue I guess they think will rise from people being able to trade this stuff

Tenn60 · April 3

Tenn60 wrote: »

Personally I don’t think anything should be character bound(outside of like the way the armor sets are done), but lately it’s been getting a little ridiculous. Why are event furnishings bound, why do I still get cruel pages that are bound that I can’t even sell to my merchant for one gold. I don’t really get this new obsession with let’s see how many things we can make bound. I could care less about selling stuff, but I do like to share with people in my guild, and it floors me some of the items they have decided to bind. I’m guessing next patch all motifs and furniture plans will be bound then after that they’ll do a maintenance patch to bind mats just to be safe from whatever issue I guess they think will rise from people being able to trade this stuff

Sorry was supposed to be style not cruel lol, but actually works out

ankeor · April 3

Really.
I want to put my transmute geodes to bank. Or maybe collect them in one place. The concept of character bound items outside of quest items are just ridiculus.

Necrotech_Master · April 4

ankeor wrote: »

Really.
I want to put my transmute geodes to bank. Or maybe collect them in one place. The concept of character bound items outside of quest items are just ridiculus.

i think the main reason geodes cant be banked is because the are still classified as a "container" and almost all container items (except runeboxes) cannot be banked

for the OP i do agree that the bound furnishings from the jesters event and anniversary event are extremely annoying, especially as someone who doesnt really do housing

i think the jesters ones have always been that way and they just keep adding more of them that are also bound

LPapirius · April 4

I think I deconstructed almost everything I got from Jesters festival this year. If I can't sell it, it's not worth anything to me.

Auberon1983 · April 4

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

DenverRalphy · April 4

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

Auberon1983 · April 4

I wish we could sell antiquiti

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

Just to clear them out of the list. I originally thought years back I might actually enjoy housing. I just lack the patience for it, if I'm being completely honest about myself.

But! I am buying Castle Skingrad as a Guild effort, as we have many talented decorators. They can use any antiquity and/or furnishings they want.

AcadianPaladin · April 4

I think pretty much everything should be unbound.

Let those who enjoy certain activities rock and roll, and sell the spoils.
Let those who hate certain activities ignore them and buy the spoils.

Play how you want, win win, right?

whitecrow · April 4

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

Sometimes they are endeavours.

Athanasia_Nocnitsa · April 5

I find it really weird that the jester festival furnishing items and now the anniversary furnishing items from the boxes are bound.

Also, it is annoying to have one rug or something and needing two for a home but not being able to buy them from players.

And the undaunted furnishing items from the festival and the furnishing items from the witches festival ARE tradable, so why is there a difference???

emilyhyoyeon · April 5

I was thinking of this earlier, and I realized I'm pretty sure these furnishings are bound is because they are also able to be bought from the holiday achievement furnishing vendors in the main cities like Elden Root. And because furnishings from achievement vendors are bound by the nature of them being achievement related, the ones from the boxes are bound as well, since they're the same item.

ganzaeso · April 5

Unfortunately these take the place of a typical reward from this event and at the same time an inventory slot.

And if you don't do housing it is like not getting a reward at all for one of your anniversary boxes.

The boxes for anniversary jubilee have also had the craft materials reduced by 50%.

XSTRONG · April 5

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

He might like the activity but dont want the item and just make some coins for doing it.

Tenn60 · April 5

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I was thinking of this earlier, and I realized I'm pretty sure these furnishings are bound is because they are also able to be bought from the holiday achievement furnishing vendors in the main cities like Elden Root. And because furnishings from achievement vendors are bound by the nature of them being achievement related, the ones from the boxes are bound as well, since they're the same item.

I would agree except for the fact that fragments you buy from the vendor for holiday stuff are bound but if you get them from a box they are not. Same as bought crown furnishings from the buy tab in houses, furnishings that can be crafted or found normally in game that aren’t bound are bound from the crown store(which I’m fine with crown stuff being bound), but just for examples where they have the same items as bound and unbound. Overland armor that’s picked up from fighting unbound same armor reconstructed bound. I’m not saying I don’t understand what your saying but if that was their excuse then I would chalk it up to just pure laziness on their part

TaSheen · April 5

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquiti

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

Just to clear them out of the list. I originally thought years back I might actually enjoy housing. I just lack the patience for it, if I'm being completely honest about myself.

But! I am buying Castle Skingrad as a Guild effort, as we have many talented decorators. They can use any antiquity and/or furnishings they want.

When is the Castle going to be available?

AlexanderDeLarge · April 5

What's the worst case scenario in a game with zero bound items? That people ignore the content they don't want to do and just buy the rewards? Hardly a concern in a game this big. Also why force people to do content they don't enjoy?

Look at Path of Exile's economy. Someone wants something out of a league mechanic's loot pool but they hate the mechanic, so they acquire the currency elsewhere and buy it. It's considered one of the best economies in gaming. Same goes for Runescape.

kargen27 · April 5

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I think pretty much everything should be unbound.

Let those who enjoy certain activities rock and roll, and sell the spoils.
Let those who hate certain activities ignore them and buy the spoils.

Play how you want, win win, right?

MMOs need players to participate in a variety of content and repeat content to have long term value. Having some bound items helps with both.

AcadianPaladin · April 5

kargen27 wrote: »

MMOs need players to participate in a variety of content and repeat content to have long term value. Having some bound items helps with both.

I follow your thinking but believe it might balance out. Those who love farming dungeons but have full sticker books would be even happier farming them if they could sell the gear they plunder. Those who love digging up antiquities but already have loads of the same thing would probably appreciate being able to sell the fruits of their labors.

BetweenMidgets · April 5

I thought the same thing when I saw the new anniversary furnishings. They should NOT be bound.

I think they are bound so that those of us who may want them but are done with playing would have to play to get them, instead of buying them from guild traders.

I think everything comes back to greed, in the long run.

Morimizo · April 5

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I think pretty much everything should be unbound.

Let those who enjoy certain activities rock and roll, and sell the spoils.
Let those who hate certain activities ignore them and buy the spoils.

Play how you want, win win, right?

^This exactly!!! Would revitalize the economy with this change, too.

spartaxoxo · April 5

BetweenMidgets wrote: »

I thought the same thing when I saw the new anniversary furnishings. They should NOT be bound.

I think they are bound so that those of us who may want them but are done with playing would have to play to get them, instead of buying them from guild traders.

I think everything comes back to greed, in the long run.

A lot of them are available at the holiday achievement vendor. It's probably just a response to players wanting more gold sinks.

Auberon1983 · April 6

TaSheen wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquiti

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

Just to clear them out of the list. I originally thought years back I might actually enjoy housing. I just lack the patience for it, if I'm being completely honest about myself.

But! I am buying Castle Skingrad as a Guild effort, as we have many talented decorators. They can use any antiquity and/or furnishings they want.

When is the Castle going to be available?

I think the 13th through 28th

EvilGoatKing · April 6

Bound items drops force engagement and more time played. An easy, ham-fisted way of inflating those metrics for ZOS to tout.

Idinuse · April 6

Having companion pieces bought from the IA vendor boxes be bound on pick up is really pushing the limit of what's digestible IMO.

Dragonnord · April 6

Thing is that, if there wasn't bound stuff, there would be people that wouldn't be doing events or activities (ie: digging out antiquities) in the game at all. They would be just drinking a coffee at home and idle in their in-game houses buying everything from other players without the need to participate in a lot of activities the game has to offer.

DenverRalphy · April 6

The event furnishings are bound simply because they are also purchaseable from an Achievement Vendor. So you're not supposed to be able to purchase it without the achievement.

If someone wants to purchase the furnishings, all they need do is satisfy the conditions of the achievement. They're really very easy to complete. If the event is over, then it gives new players something to look forward to the next time it comes around.

DeadlySerious · April 6

All rewards should be open for trading and selling to other players. Making stuff like this bound means we just have to decon it, and we don't even get any mats from the deconning.

SeaGtGruff · April 6

I'm guessing that certain items are account-bound to prevent botters from being able to farm them and flood the marketplace with them, because that is almost certainly what would happen if they weren't account-bound.

Elrond87 · April 6

yea is annoying, I type out DESTROY copy paste it and just keep on dragging them out of bag and pasting it to confirm

DenverRalphy · April 7

DeadlySerious wrote: »

All rewards should be open for trading and selling to other players. Making stuff like this bound means we just have to decon it, and we don't even get any mats from the deconning.

You can't decon something that wasn't crafted to begin with. So it's not like you're out the cost of mats or anything.

So what's the actual issue? The inability to make a profit from them?