What is with the bound item obsession

spartaxoxo

DenverRalphy wrote: »

DeadlySerious wrote: »

All rewards should be open for trading and selling to other players. Making stuff like this bound means we just have to decon it, and we don't even get any mats from the deconning.

You can't decon something that wasn't crafted to begin with. So it's not like you're out the cost of mats or anything.

So what's the actual issue? The inability to make a profit from them?

I'd like to be able to give stuff I don't need to others, personally. These high volume event items are generally not worth much coin and this one is even further limited by the vendor selling them. I imagine the only reason they are bound is because they require an achievement to purchase more.

DenverRalphy

spartaxoxo wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

DeadlySerious wrote: »

All rewards should be open for trading and selling to other players. Making stuff like this bound means we just have to decon it, and we don't even get any mats from the deconning.

You can't decon something that wasn't crafted to begin with. So it's not like you're out the cost of mats or anything.

So what's the actual issue? The inability to make a profit from them?

I'd like to be able to give stuff I don't need to others, personally. These high volume event items are generally not worth much coin and this one is even further limited by the vendor selling them. I imagine the only reason they are bound is because they require an achievement to purchase more.

It's always nice to be able to gift stuff. But achievement furnishings will never be gift-able (sp?) precisely because they're supposed to only be accessible to those with the appropriate achievement. Nevermind the fact that they're dropping like candy from a ceiling full of busted open pinatas. I wouldn't say gifting them is really a concern when literally everybody has so many that they're destroying their excess. And if they don't, they can amass a sizable collection in no time.

DreamyLu

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I think pretty much everything should be unbound.

Let those who enjoy certain activities rock and roll, and sell the spoils.
Let those who hate certain activities ignore them and buy the spoils.

Play how you want, win win, right?

Could be an idea, but then that will soon be like for resources: don't want to grind, don't want to pay. ZOS please, increase drop rate so prices decrease and so on...

Re festival, I'm not sure, because if players can get festivals items via purchasing, then it could be detrimental to the festivals since players wouldn't need to participate anymore.

Me too I find that too many items are bound, for no apparently valid reason(s). I suppose that to decide what item (or types of items) could be unbound or not would be the next hassle for ZOS, unless they have a clear overview of the reason(s) for each binding, so they know the implication of the change.

WithMyLaserGun

ZOS is already well aware that we are struggling with storage space and then gives us loads of Bound furnishings -_-

I do not like the new ones, but I know someone who does and I would *love* to be able to save them up during this event so that I can gift them all to her. Unfortunately, I am destroying them as soon as I get them. Even stuffing them in one of my empty houses isn't worth the effort.

frogthroat

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

I don't understand the question. The lead is there. It needs to be dug. Do... do people let leads expire? *eye twitch*

ApoAlaia

frogthroat wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

I don't understand the question. The lead is there. It needs to be dug. Do... do people let leads expire? *eye twitch*

and more *eye twitch* from me

Either way in my case I dig out leads I don't really want - like purple furnishings that there would be not enough houses in the game to dump into otherwise - because the style mats that you unearth along with the antiquity are useful for master writ 'craftathons' for instance.

It would be nice if I could just sell them or trade them alas I cannot so I trash them instead.

The only purple lead that I loathe to see - and I duly let expire, never again to be dug out - is the 'Tribunal Window, Stained Glass'; every time it 'drops' from a treasure map instead of one of all the other leads I cannot for the life of me get a 2nd one of I die inside a little bit more.

whitecrow

frogthroat wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

I don't understand the question. The lead is there. It needs to be dug. Do... do people let leads expire? *eye twitch*

I've started letting them expire if it's something I have a ridiculous amount of already, like the ebony fox totem.

Jaimeh

The jesters/jubilee furnishings from the boxes are bound because they are also sold from the 'holiday achievement furnishing' vendors and everything sold by these vendors is bound, so it makes sense that those dropping form the boxes are bound as well.

joergino

Jaimeh wrote: »

The jesters/jubilee furnishings from the boxes are bound because they are also sold from the 'holiday achievement furnishing' vendors and everything sold by these vendors is bound, so it makes sense that those dropping form the boxes are bound as well.

No, it absolutely does not make any sense whatsoever. Style pages are sold by the Impresario as bound pages. Nevertheless they also drop from reward boxes and aren't bound. There's no good reason for anything to drop as a bound item.

Jaimeh

joergino wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

The jesters/jubilee furnishings from the boxes are bound because they are also sold from the 'holiday achievement furnishing' vendors and everything sold by these vendors is bound, so it makes sense that those dropping form the boxes are bound as well.

No, it absolutely does not make any sense whatsoever. Style pages are sold by the Impresario as bound pages. Nevertheless they also drop from reward boxes and aren't bound. There's no good reason for anything to drop as a bound item.

These items are sold year round at the holiday achievement vendors in the capital cities, and their wares are bound because they are connected to achievements, they are not connected to the Impresario nor do they use tickets as currency. The pages in the Impresario are bound when they are bought with event tickets, but they are not connected to achievements, so when they drop from the boxes they are unbound.

DenverRalphy

joergino wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

The jesters/jubilee furnishings from the boxes are bound because they are also sold from the 'holiday achievement furnishing' vendors and everything sold by these vendors is bound, so it makes sense that those dropping form the boxes are bound as well.

No, it absolutely does not make any sense whatsoever. Style pages are sold by the Impresario as bound pages. Nevertheless they also drop from reward boxes and aren't bound. There's no good reason for anything to drop as a bound item.

Style pages bought from the Impressario are bound to prevent converting event tickets into coin/currency. When they drop in the wild they aren't bound because they're not tied to tickets nor achievements.

TaSheen

Auberon1983 wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquiti

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

Just to clear them out of the list. I originally thought years back I might actually enjoy housing. I just lack the patience for it, if I'm being completely honest about myself.

But! I am buying Castle Skingrad as a Guild effort, as we have many talented decorators. They can use any antiquity and/or furnishings they want.

When is the Castle going to be available?

I think the 13th through 28th

Thank you. It may not matter, as I'm now dealing with a husband who has major neuro issues. Should he be able to normalize with meds, and return home in the next day or so, I may be able to buy the Castle when available. Time will tell. If not now, then whenever though. It's certainly not all that important compared.

frogthroat wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

I don't understand the question. The lead is there. It needs to be dug. Do... do people let leads expire? *eye twitch*

I do occasionally. Most notably the gold ones from Coldharbour. NO ONE needs a gazillion of those things....

Necrotech_Master

frogthroat wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

I don't understand the question. The lead is there. It needs to be dug. Do... do people let leads expire? *eye twitch*

all the time, if i dont need codex entries for items

the only items i generally regularly dig up regardless are motif chapters (because you CAN sell those), and the lancers for cyrodiil

i see no purpose to digging up most of the leads if i already have the codex entries, the furnishings i can just buy once i finish codex entries (and having extra copies is meaningless to me because i dont really decorate houses, and if a furnishing is bound its like 90% reduced value to me because i cant even get rid of extras unless i just straight delete them), mythics i just recreate if i need them (and dont even need 3 codex entries to do that)

Necrotech_Master

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I'm guessing that certain items are account-bound to prevent botters from being able to farm them and flood the marketplace with them, because that is almost certainly what would happen if they weren't account-bound.

my understanding is the account bound items is to encourage people to run said content to get them

if nothing was bound, people could get gear from trials and dungeons without ever having to run them themselves

theres 4 classifications of bound items

• bound (standard account bound)
• temp tradeable items (only tradeable with persons in group when you got the drop but become bound after a timer)
• character bound (items which you cannot bank)
• pseudo character bound (items not specifically marked as character bound, but also cannot be put into storage such as most "container" items (example: the boxes you get from most daily quests fall into this category as well as transmute geodes))

some items that used to be in the pseudo character bound category included runeboxes, but i think most if not all of them have been allowed to be bankable

personally i think anything character bound is quite annoying

Jestir

I absolutely can't stand bound holiday furniture

katanagirl1

I can’t imagine anyone buying these Anniversary items from the Holiday Furnisher. I’m drowning in them.

I hope they aren’t taking the place of a good motif drop for me.

fizl101

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I can’t imagine anyone buying these Anniversary items from the Holiday Furnisher. I’m drowning in them.

I hope they aren’t taking the place of a good motif drop for me.

Same, even if I can't sell them to other players or donate to guild banks I'd be happy just selling them to a merchant

Acetriad

I've said this before. I understand why some items are bound, but Waaaay too many things are bound. It's like the default setting for anything new is "bound", but it ought to be the other way around.

wolfie1.0.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

There's no way to stop the leads from generating. You get leads even when you don't own the dlc.

katanagirl1

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

There's no way to stop the leads from generating. You get leads even when you don't own the dlc.

That’s why I don’t dig them up for the ones I have dozens of already. That stops the lead from dropping for 30 days.

Acetriad

Maybe it's an OCD thing or something, but it bugs me to just let stuff expire, or to have those leads just hanging there and not do them. Soooo... I have a LOT of bound furniture lol. I'd be perfectly happy giving a bunch of it away, even if I couldn't sell it.
On the other hand, I made a snowman out of dwarven puzzle cubes with a ruby dragon nose, and jewelled sheathes for arms. Buuut... Being creative only goes so far, lol.

shadyjane62

frogthroat wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Auberon1983 wrote: »

I wish we could sell antiquities we've dug up, these Jubilee furnishings, etc

Housing and ToT are the only activities in the game I'm not involved in in any way. I have hundreds of dug up antiquities just collecting dust in my free houses (Lunar Champ, Alpine, etc). I'd rather sell or just outright give them away to people who actually want them

Honest question. Why are you digging them up if you don't want them?

I don't understand the question. The lead is there. It needs to be dug. Do... do people let leads expire? *eye twitch*

Yes. I ignore them completely.

Also I am now destroying all this bound stuff. Have way too much and can't give it away.