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Furnishing Request: Dragon's Treasure Trove
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Dithieon✭✭✭✭twisttop138 wrote: »I have this item. I would love it for other people to have it. It feels weird to tell others they shouldn't have some furnishing because it would cheapen its "value" to me. It would not. This was not some mount earned by doing the hardest content in the game or something. It seems some derive some feeling of superiority from having things others can't have. I never understood this. I would not be against them making a similar furnishing available as a compromise but I'm not against the actual furniture being made available either. This is just my opinion though, and it does not matter really. In the grand scheme of things, ZOS will do what they please in this matter.
This says it all for me. To add: selfishness is not a good quality."There is a beast in every man and it stirs when you put a sword in his hand" - Ser Jorah Mormont
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✭✭✭✭✭JiubLeRepenti wrote: »sans-culottes wrote: »JiubLeRepenti wrote: »sans-culottes wrote: »JiubLeRepenti wrote: »How is this not the same?
Very simple:- I've never asked for it to come back to the Crown Store. It was there, so I bought it
- If the house hadn't returned to the Crown Store, I wouldn’t have complained or made a thread asking for it to come back
- I paid for it, while the people who got it during the event didn’t pay for it
Literally nobody is asking for it to be free. They just want the chance to buy it. Exactly like you did for the Grand Psijic Villa.
Once again, I’ve never asked for it to come back to the Crown Store.- Grand Psijic Villa is back in the Crown Store? Nice, I'll pay for it
- Grand Psijic Villa isn’t back in the Crown Store? Too bad, I missed it for good, but it’s not a big deal
You're focusing on the fact that I paid for this house, even though it wasn’t something I was begging for. That’s just a minor detail in my whole point.
I just feel like you’re trying to put words in my mouth. If the Grand Psijic Villa hadn’t been available for purchase, I would never have complained about it—just like I previously said that, even though I don’t have the Dragon’s Treasure Trove in my collection, I still think it shouldn’t come back.
@JiubLeRepenti, you keep insisting there’s no contradiction here, but the contradiction isn’t in whether you asked for the Villa to return—it’s in the principle you’re defending. You say exclusivity is good, and that items like the Dragon’s Treasure Trove “shouldn’t come back,” because the people who were there “earned” them. Yet when the Villa did come back, you bought it without hesitation and without concern that doing so might diminish anyone else’s achievement. You didn’t decline on principle. You participated.
That’s the point.
Sorry, but I still don't see any contradiction here.
There's a big difference for me between explicitly asking or lobbying for an item to return—regardless of what the people who originally got it during an exclusive period may think—versus simply obtaining the item you wanted but missed when it becomes available again.And that’s not a 6 or a 9. It’s a fork in design philosophy. Only one path actually leads forward.
Strongly disagree on this. There are as many "one path" as there are humain beings. Being convinced that your point is valid and mine not is OK though, I'm thinking the same.
@JiubLeRepenti, the contradiction isn’t about whether you “asked” for the Grand Psijic Villa to return.
Well, yes, to me it's 100% about it as it makes all the difference in that situation.
So… if ZOS just released it without anyone asking for it, then that would be okay?
(By the way, people were totally begging for the Grand Psijic Villa, even if you weren’t. So doesn’t that also mean that you think it shouldn’t have been made available?)5 -
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✭JiubLeRepenti wrote: »sans-culottes wrote: »JiubLeRepenti wrote: »sans-culottes wrote: »JiubLeRepenti wrote: »How is this not the same?
Very simple:- I've never asked for it to come back to the Crown Store. It was there, so I bought it
- If the house hadn't returned to the Crown Store, I wouldn’t have complained or made a thread asking for it to come back
- I paid for it, while the people who got it during the event didn’t pay for it
Literally nobody is asking for it to be free. They just want the chance to buy it. Exactly like you did for the Grand Psijic Villa.
Once again, I’ve never asked for it to come back to the Crown Store.- Grand Psijic Villa is back in the Crown Store? Nice, I'll pay for it
- Grand Psijic Villa isn’t back in the Crown Store? Too bad, I missed it for good, but it’s not a big deal
You're focusing on the fact that I paid for this house, even though it wasn’t something I was begging for. That’s just a minor detail in my whole point.
I just feel like you’re trying to put words in my mouth. If the Grand Psijic Villa hadn’t been available for purchase, I would never have complained about it—just like I previously said that, even though I don’t have the Dragon’s Treasure Trove in my collection, I still think it shouldn’t come back.
@JiubLeRepenti, you keep insisting there’s no contradiction here, but the contradiction isn’t in whether you asked for the Villa to return—it’s in the principle you’re defending. You say exclusivity is good, and that items like the Dragon’s Treasure Trove “shouldn’t come back,” because the people who were there “earned” them. Yet when the Villa did come back, you bought it without hesitation and without concern that doing so might diminish anyone else’s achievement. You didn’t decline on principle. You participated.
That’s the point.
Sorry, but I still don't see any contradiction here.
There's a big difference for me between explicitly asking or lobbying for an item to return—regardless of what the people who originally got it during an exclusive period may think—versus simply obtaining the item you wanted but missed when it becomes available again.And that’s not a 6 or a 9. It’s a fork in design philosophy. Only one path actually leads forward.
Strongly disagree on this. There are as many "one path" as there are humain beings. Being convinced that your point is valid and mine not is OK though, I'm thinking the same.
@JiubLeRepenti, the contradiction isn’t about whether you “asked” for the Grand Psijic Villa to return.
Well, yes, to me it's 100% about it as it makes all the difference in that situation.
@JiubLeRepenti, respectfully, your position keeps narrowing to preserve coherence, but each narrowing shifts the goalposts.
First, you framed your stance around exclusivity as a matter of principle—something that gives items their meaning, something tied to a specific moment in time. Now that principle has become entirely procedural: “I didn’t ask for the item, therefore my purchasing it doesn’t contradict the value of exclusivity.” But this reframing sidesteps the actual issue. The question is not whether you petitioned for the item’s return. The question is whether you believe its return, regardless of who asked, undermines the value you say should be protected.
If exclusivity is sacred, then it should not hinge on who reintroduces the item or who asks for it. If someone else had requested the Villa’s return and it reappeared, then would you have abstained from purchasing it on principle? That’s the contradiction: you say the item’s return devalues the original moment, but you still engage when it suits you.
As for the “100%” agreement with @Tensar and their comment—if you truly believe that everything being available to everyone makes the game less interesting, then your purchase of the Grand Psijic Villa (after it was made available again) directly undermines that claim. You participated in the very thing you say “makes the game less interesting.”
None of this is personal. It’s simply a question of whether the values you’re articulating are consistent with your own actions. So far, they aren’t. And that dissonance is what’s being pointed out—not your preferences, but the way those preferences are justified.
Edited by sans-culottes on March 24, 2025 4:06PM5 -
Malyore✭✭✭✭✭JiubLeRepenti wrote: »It means that you got the same result by buying it for 10 tickets as people who spent dozens of hours in-game farming dolmens. Does that sound fair to you? And I'm not talking about your personal satisfaction here, but about the principle.
You are correct in that principle being trodden on does not bother me, because I think it's even less fair to force people to grind for hours and potentially STILL not get what they wanted. Hence why I am glad ZOS actually amended the situation.
And you are indeed, directly, talking about players satisfaction.JiubLeRepenti wrote: »This is why I was pissed ... It just ruins the satisfaction of having looted them during the event imo.
Your satisfaction comes from looting during the event. Mine comes from the cosmetic itself. Since your principle gravitates around event farming, that's why you were angered.
My trueflame looks just as neat as the ones from 10 years ago, and as the ones bought from event tickets. So I'm still satisfied to have it.5 -
Malyore✭✭✭✭✭JiubLeRepenti wrote: »Sorry, but I still don't see any contradiction here.
There's a big difference for me between explicitly asking or lobbying for an item to return—regardless of what the people who originally got it during an exclusive period may think—versus simply obtaining the item you wanted but missedJiubLeRepenti wrote: »100% agree with this. And I don’t have this furnishing neither.
It’s good to have some exclusive content you can’t get later. This is how you motivate people to participate to events or to play the game often and check free rewards/gifts.
This is why I was pissed to see you could buy 10th anniversary style pages that were so hard to get, for 10 event tickets a few months ago. It just ruins the satisfaction of having looted them during the event imo.JiubLeRepenti wrote: »Sometimes, games don't give players exactly what they want, and I think that's a very good thing.
I missed the Summerset event with the Grand Psijic Villa. And that's fine. It really is. It was my own fault for not being there in time to take part in the event and get it, even though I really wanted it.
I wanted it so badly that I even bought it later.
So, as long as ZOS makes it available without people asking for it first, it's fine?
I also am seeing a contradiction.7 -
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✭✭I'd like to see old ESO+ exclusive Statuettes and Paintings to return some day, or offer them from Philius Dormier (like the Ascendant Lord statuette was available from him during the Legacy of the Bretons Celebration).Edited by Maitsukas on March 24, 2025 5:18PMPC-EU @maitsukas
Posting the Infinite Archive and Imperial City Weekly Vendor updates.
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✭✭✭✭✭I'd like to see old ESO+ exclusive Statuettes and Paintings to return some day, or offer them from Philius Dormier (like the Ascendant Lord statuette was available from him during the Legacy of the Bretons Celebration).
Yeah, I missed the Hircine one and it’d fit great in my werewolf’s house.
Funny story though - I had ESO+ for a full year before i started collecting the statuettes. I didn’t know they went into my collections menu, so I just didn’t claim them because I didn’t want to fill up my inventory with statuettes for things I wasn’t super interested in. It wasn’t until they dropped one I liked that I accepted it and found out it didn’t go into my inventory. Oops.
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✭✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »So yeah, I’m missing a whole set because I’m an idiot lol
I missed out on the Greymoor event goodies (including the alpine house) because I didn't want to go to Western Skyrim at the time, even though I owned the chapter. I like to play through the storylines in order. I didn't realize that I could have claimed the goodies in the crown store anyway because it wasn't necessary to participate. So I guess I was an idiot too lol.2 -
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✭I have never visited a house and found someone to be special because they had some limited time furnishing.
Most of the time I don't even care. I only care if I have a character whose home would benefit from the same item for RP reasons.
I guess I don't understand people who think they are special in some way for having some digital house item. Especially in an aging MMO where it would be uncommon for people to enter houses to look for items to supposedly be envious of.
Games are for enjoyment and in the grand scheme of life, of limited importance. Let people enjoy themselves.
For those who would be upset if people whose houses you are unlikely to ever visit had this item, find value in other accomplishments. When it comes to housing I am mostly impressed by creativity and design skills; not the presence of exclusive items.Edited by AScarlato on March 24, 2025 10:12PM5 -
Malyore✭✭✭✭✭AllenaNightWood wrote: »i disagree becasue it takes away from the value of it being earned
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DivineKitty✭✭✭AllenaNightWood wrote: »i disagree becasue it takes away from the value of it being earned
OK, so bring it back and make it something you have to farm for. Easy solution, right?3 -
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✭✭✭JiubLeRepenti wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »While this is an item that I'm very envious over and wish I had, I'd rather it doesn't make a reappearance. Requests like this post come around every few months or so.
And I'm very happy for those who have it and hope their precious claim piece of the game is never watered down or diminished by a re-release.
100% agree with this. And I don’t have this furnishing neither.
It’s good to have some exclusive content you can’t get later. This is how you motivate people to participate to events or to play the game often and check free rewards/gifts.
This is why I was pissed to see you could buy 10th anniversary style pages that were so hard to get, for 10 event tickets a few months ago. It just ruins the satisfaction of having looted them during the event imo.
Small digression, but this is also why I love games like Baldur’s Gate 3, which doesn’t care about fulfilling every player’s wish, but force him/her to make choices and sacrifices instead. Frustration can be very positive in video games.
I have to ask…if ZOS were to put the Dragon’s Treasure Trove in the Crown Store for, say, 1,000 Crowns, would you purchase it because you wish you had it or abstain from purchasing it due to thinking it should not be made available again? That was the dilemma you faced with the Grand Psijic Villa and you chose to purchase it for 12,000 Crowns.Edited by Elvenheart on March 25, 2025 8:26AM1 -
Wiseau✭✭✭Hi All, just wanted to follow up here. The team is aware and thanks you for the feedback. What other promotional / Event collectibles would you like to see return? We can pass a list on to the team.
Can we PLEASE get the Jubilee Cake mementos available for years we don't have? It really sucks having those missing from my collection because I was unable to play for short while when they were available. It would be much appreciated.2 -
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✭AllenaNightWood wrote: »i disagree becasue it takes away from the value of it being earned
Please see my previous posts. This is objectively false.7 -
Tobyja✭✭✭✭✭Hi All, just wanted to follow up here. The team is aware and thanks you for the feedback. What other promotional / Event collectibles would you like to see return? We can pass a list on to the team.
Besides the Dragon's Treasure Trove (missed at a time, when i wasn't aware of how all the things are working in ESO), from which also i would need more than just one
, it's the
Necrom Guard Miraso (missed last year through misscalculation of timeframe of availability) i'm really greedy for.
And all mini statues/statuettes i've ever missed.
Oh, and for the last point... "used exemplars" (with a broken leg or a missing arm or something) from older ones would totally be ok for me.
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MaraxusTheOrc✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »sans-culottes wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »While this is an item that I'm very envious over and wish I had, I'd rather it doesn't make a reappearance. Requests like this post come around every few months or so.
And I'm very happy for those who have it and hope their precious claim piece of the game is never watered down or diminished by a re-release.
I am unclear on why rereleasing this would somehow cheapen or “diminish” other players having this furnishing—a purely cosmetic item.
The item obviously holds some intrinsic value. Otherwise threads like this wouldn't keep popping up asking for it to be made available to more players. If more players get it, that value is diminished.
the value is that it's an item that exists that we can't have because we didn't have Elsweyr in late 2019 and were able to log in for a minute to claim the event rewards?
people want it because it looks nice.
Rhe The collectibles from Blackwood and High isle's event reward bundles returned during their recent events,
Dragon's Treasure Trove is also a collectible,
and the Elsweyr event is due for a return as it's been 2 years.
There is no reason to not have it available to purchase from the impressario in some way be it from Grab Bags or directly with event tickets, when the Elsweyr event returns next.
The same goes for the Jade-Crown Dragonslayer helmet and shoulder styles.
So what if it was acquired simply by being in the right place at the right time? What's wrong with that? Let those that were there at the right time enjoy knowing they have an rare/exclusive item without envy and jealousy trying to take it away from them.
I was there. I have the trove. I don’t derive enjoyment knowing I have something someone else wants but can’t have. I’m the opposite. If it would bring more people joy to have more access to the furnishing, then the furnishing should be accessible. We are playing a video game. Their purpose is to bring joy.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MaraxusTheOrc wrote: »
I was there. I have the trove. I don’t derive enjoyment knowing I have something someone else wants but can’t have. I’m the opposite. If it would bring more people joy to have more access to the furnishing, then the furnishing should be accessible. We are playing a video game. Their purpose is to bring joy.
Agreed. Thanks!
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RoseTheSnowElf✭✭✭Not part of a promotion or event but according to UESP, this has only been available in the crown store the year the Elsweyr Chapter was released, and hasn't been back since.
(I think it's fitting to the dev request, because the mount seems themed to promoting that year's Elsweyr release)
Noble Riverhold Senche-Lion
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Noble_Riverhold_Senche-Lion
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Ascending Tide Collector's Bundle
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Dreadsail_HowlerEdited by RoseTheSnowElf on March 26, 2025 4:11AMPS5 NA EP GH
Wood Elf NB - 5 Star
Dark Elf Arcanist (healer) - 5 Star
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✭✭✭✭JiubLeRepenti wrote: »tomofhyrule wrote: »JiubLeRepenti wrote: »Small digression, but this is also why I love games like Baldur’s Gate 3, which doesn’t care about fulfilling every player’s wish, but force him/her to make choices and sacrifices instead. Frustration can be very positive in video games.
Remind me: what time-gated FOMO event item drop could you get in BG3 that is no longer available?
That's why I said I was making a digression. 🙂
Actually, what you're saying wasn't my point at all.
My point was that frustration and its resolution (or lack thereof) are important and beneficial in games.
It can be a good thing in ESO when you obtain an exclusive item that was hard to get (e.g., the 10th anniversary style pages), just as it can be a good thing to say, 'Yup, I missed it. Too bad, at least I tried.'
It can also be a good thing in BG3 when you're faced with deep choices and moral dilemmas that prevent you from getting the best ending for every companion at the end of the game.
Sometimes, games don't give players exactly what they want, and I think that's a very good thing. In my opinion, some games try too hard to satisfy everyone all the time, and that’s how you end up with low-tier titles - in my very own opinion - like DATV, Avowed, Starfield, etc. No choice, no dilemma, no loss. One rule: to give the players everything they want and avoid any frustration".
When I bring up BG3, it doesn’t mean the two games are similar. I'm simply highlighting that both involve situations where frustration plays a role.
I just feel like nowadays, people—especially in ESO—can't handle frustration and accept that they missed something. After every event, every update, there are always people begging for an item, a promotion, or something they missed for a million different reasons.
Another example: I missed the Summerset event with the Grand Psijic Villa. And that's fine. It really is. It was my own fault for not being there in time to take part in the event and get it, even though I really wanted it. I wanted it so badly that I even bought it later. Of course if you couldn't get it for a very good reason (for instance couldn't play because of a natural disaster, a passing, etc.) you should still be able to get it by opening a ticket.JiubLeRepenti wrote: »This is why I was pissed to see you could buy 10th anniversary style pages that were so hard to get, for 10 event tickets a few months ago. It just ruins the satisfaction of having looted them during the event imo.
My satisfaction from the 10th anniversary collectibles comes from actually owning the collectable to use. Not how I got it.
Trueflame looks cool, that's why I wanted it and that's why I got it. Me having fished for it means nothing to me, other than a hoop I was told to jump through for ZOS. I'd rather players don't have to jump through those hoops to get cosmetics we mutually think looks cool. I was glad ZOS made them available for people who didn't get what they wanted.
It means that you got the same result by buying it for 10 tickets as people who spent dozens of hours in-game farming dolmens. Does that sound fair to you? And I'm not talking about your personal satisfaction here, but about the principle.
By your own logic then, the only items that should be gate kept are ones that are earned in game. But event items always come back via the next event. Either as drops or in the mystery make up bag. Old event fragments are available as well as they cycle. The community event items, the big ones, cycle through the crown store. And had very basic requirements to earn them. Own the chapter and collect the reward.
The only real rewards that most players won't earn are achievement based, so in that regard you have what you want.
Now let the rest of us that just want to throw cash at zos for something that was as easy to get as logging in get what we want.3 -
Frayton✭✭✭✭Thank you ZOS for actually considering this! It's the only decent treasure pile furnishing available to us.
Before anyone jumps in and cries, exclusivity matters or isn't fair to those who have it, I have the trove. I played the event when it was live and helped push the community meter up, so we could all have it.
I think there is no difference between those who were playing ESO at the time but did not participate in the event, yet still got the trove furnishing vs those who weren't playing ESO at the time but are now playing and want the trove. This goes for any event or promotional item.
If exclusivity makes you feel special, then perhaps take solace in the fact that you were actually there when the event ran live. Life circumstances sometimes prevent us from participating in every event, so personally, I don't like it when others can't get the event stuff I got live. I think it's great when ZOS re-releases event/promo items or makes them unbound so I can later give them to those who weren't there.8 -
@ZOS_Kevin There are 2 Crown Store items that I would love to see return.
1. Arena Gladiator Horse (last seen 2020)
2. Falinesti’s Faithful Totem Elk (last seen 2021)
At the time they were available, I would have loved to buy them, but I didn’t have the money.
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MRusso89✭✭✭I have the Dragon Treasure Trove, forgot it was a limited time thing. I think it should made available for everyone to get. Either in store or a reward. Maybe an Elsweyr anniversary event down the road?Hermaeus Mora, elder than Ada, Abyssal Cephaliarch, hearken to the plea of this unworthy, for I have come to barter for knowledge denied.
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