Please add more options to golden pursuits objectives.

MrGrim · February 21

It's already crap that I'm playing more because i feel forced to play to get the things in time before they're gone, like the event stuff and golden pursuit. then play it to actually have fun with it.
And now you make it so i have to do activities i really do not enjoy at all to get a reward i want. It's really burning me out from this game and makes me want to abandon it.
which would be really sad considering I've always loved it so much. even owning multiple physical collectors editions and statues, even the first imperial one from launch.
So please, make sure there's plenty of options around so people can actually enjoy playing your game and get rewards for it. instead of it feeling like a unpleasant chore.

sarahthes · February 21

MrGrim wrote: »

It's already crap that I'm playing more because i feel forced to play to get the things in time before they're gone, like the event stuff and golden pursuit. then play it to actually have fun with it.
And now you make it so i have to do activities i really do not enjoy at all to get a reward i want. It's really burning me out from this game and makes me want to abandon it.
which would be really sad considering I've always loved it so much. even owning multiple physical collectors editions and statues, even the first imperial one from launch.
So please, make sure there's plenty of options around so people can actually enjoy playing your game and get rewards for it. instead of it feeling like a unpleasant chore.

Is this a thinly veiled "please don't make me do PvP things for a PvP rewards campaign"?

Sarannah · February 21

Well, I do get it. As I do not like PvP much either. (todays endeavours were horrible and time-consuming too)

ZOS could choose to add some PvE activities to the golden pursuits. Activities like: Fish 100 fish in Cyrodiil, do 25 dailies in Cyrodill, kill 500 enemies in Cyrodill(similar to the IC one), kill 20 delve bosses in Cyrodill, complete 10 dark anchors in Cyrodill, etc. More options are a good thing!

To get players in PvP zones, but not to force PvP all the time.

PS: And ZOS should stop forcing double PvP activities during PvP events by spreading out the event tickets over multiple activities! Just have us gain ALL 3 tickets at once for any of the activities in either Cyrodill, BG's, or the IC.

JemadarofCaerSalis · February 21

Sarannah wrote: »

Well, I do get it. As I do not like PvP much either. (todays endeavours were horrible and time-consuming too)

ZOS could choose to add some PvE activities to the golden pursuits. Activities like: Fish 100 fish in Cyrodiil, do 25 dailies in Cyrodill, kill 500 enemies in Cyrodill(similar to the IC one), kill 20 delve bosses in Cyrodill, complete 10 dark anchors in Cyrodill, etc. More options are a good thing!

To get players in PvP zones, but not to force PvP all the time.

PS: And ZOS should stop forcing double PvP activities during PvP events by spreading out the event tickets over multiple activities! Just have us gain ALL 3 tickets at once for any of the activities in either Cyrodill, BG's, or the IC.

I would like something like this. I don't care if it is in cyrodiil or imperial city.

Even things like 'get killed 100 times by an enemy player' would work

Erickson9610 · February 21

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Even things like 'get killed 100 times by an enemy player' would work

That would not be in the competitive spirit of PvP.

Calastir · February 21

I always thought getting rewarded for time spent logged in would make everyone happier.
That way we can do all the stuff we enjoy and get rewards, while devs can enjoy a loyal player base.

JemadarofCaerSalis · February 21

Erickson9610 wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Even things like 'get killed 100 times by an enemy player' would work

That would not be in the competitive spirit of PvP.

Neither is 'do X quests' or 'Earn X boxes'

Belegnole · February 21

They want you to do cetain things in game. It's for their metrics. Golden pursuits is just a tool to get you to play pvp in this case.

Erickson9610 · February 21

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Even things like 'get killed 100 times by an enemy player' would work

That would not be in the competitive spirit of PvP.

Neither is 'do X quests' or 'Earn X boxes'

Quests are part of PvP. You have to put effort to complete daily quests for Cyrodiil and Imperial City, which also grant you boxes.

What effort do you put into being farmed 100 times by enemies? PvP isn't Player versus Player if the enemy doesn't fight back. Thus, we have tasks for killing enemy players instead of tasks for being killed by enemy players. That requires actually playing the game.

DenverRalphy · February 21

Sarannah wrote: »

(todays endeavours were horrible and time-consuming too)

10 beasts, 8 ore nodes, and placing 7 furnishings is time consuming?

Tommy_The_Gun · February 21

Some feedback regarding those quests - if there is going to be Golden pursuits during next event like this:

1. Doing 5 quests in Cropsford, Valastrus and Bruma should be altered.

Instead of adding 3 tasks to do 5 quests in each city, it should be:
- Do 5 quests in Cyrodiil cities
- Do 10 quests in Cyrodiil cities.
- Do 15 quests in Cyrodiil cities.

That way, it would also include other towns (like Chorrol Cheydinhal), while also requiring same amount of quests but would generate significantly less traffic (Horse riding simulator). It would reduce "raiding" PvE-ers (yes, it is happing, people ball-group questing hubs on dead campaigns occupied by only 1 faction). This kind of behaviour of purposefully stopping PvP activity to do basically trolling / griefing should never be promoted.

2. Imperial City quest of killing 500 mobs is absurd. It should be 250 or at the very least 300. Way too annoying to do.

3. For the "PvP" celebration there is very little PvP activities included. There should be more. For example - why there is no task to do quests from the Bounty Board (Scouting, capturing keeps & other objectives) ? It is a missed opportunity. If those "Golden pursuits" were made to be PvP-centric, then those should reward PvP activities. And they do to some degree, but a lot of them feel like they are not made for PvP-ers nor for PvE-ers... so for whom ?

In General, I did not enjoyed a lot of them. I pushed hard to do them as fast as possible so that I would not have to spend time trying to do them in other days. I am already at 14 out of 15... simply because many of them did not felt pleasant or rewarding to do. It should be something that if you play Cyro, you will just do over time & even without altering your gameplay...

AzuraFan · February 21

I think a golden pursuit once a year for PvP is fine (more than that, no, since golden pursuits are supposed to be occasional only. *cough* Having more than one a year would make them too PvP-focused). As for the event, I do what needs to be done to get event tickets and that's it. I wholeheartedly agree that splitting the event tickets across IC and Cyrodiil is unnecessary. Just reward 3 tickets when someone finishes the quest in either one. As others have said, let players do what they enjoy most. Doesn't that sound like a good idea for a game? lol.

Necrotech_Master · February 21

Sarannah wrote: »

Well, I do get it. As I do not like PvP much either. (todays endeavours were horrible and time-consuming too)

ZOS could choose to add some PvE activities to the golden pursuits. Activities like: Fish 100 fish in Cyrodiil, do 25 dailies in Cyrodill, kill 500 enemies in Cyrodill(similar to the IC one), kill 20 delve bosses in Cyrodill, complete 10 dark anchors in Cyrodill, etc. More options are a good thing!

To get players in PvP zones, but not to force PvP all the time.

PS: And ZOS should stop forcing double PvP activities during PvP events by spreading out the event tickets over multiple activities! Just have us gain ALL 3 tickets at once for any of the activities in either Cyrodill, BG's, or the IC.

around 1/2 of the pursuits do not require actual pvp

off hand:

complete 15 quests (non pvp)
kill 100, and 500 enemies in IC (counts both player and NPC enemies so you can just farm NPCs)
3 separate pursuits for doing quests in the 3 towns in cyrodiil
healing in pvp zones (does not require to be in combat with players, you could just be a NB spamming siphon strikes and then self healing, as long as your in a pvp zone it counts)
gaining AP (can be done repairing walls in keeps, which also counts towards healing i think)

that right there is 8 of your 15 gold pursuits that require no pvp whatsoever, i havent fully tested some other ones like dealing dmg if that requires the dmg to be done against players or just being in a pvp zone (which would make IC work for it if it counts on NPCs) (it is really easy though to just deal dmg to players and get credit for dmg with siege at the same time)

i do agree that it would be nicer if it just gave all the tickets for your first activity instead of splitting it between IC and cyro (funny enough BGs which are pvp do not award any event tickets)

DaniimalsSF · February 21

I’m good with removing all rewards that require a player to engage in all of the PvP formats, as long as we can also remove all of the rewards that require players to engage in all of the PvE formats.

There is nothing more intolerable than when I have to engage in mind numbingly boring interactions with npcs and mobs because I’m forced to do it to earn a reward just because I want it. The devs hate me because they force me to do things I choose to do in this game instead of allowing me to choose to do the things I like.

wolfie1.0. · February 21

Tel var can be earned via boon boxes

You don't have to win duels or BGs just participate by not going afk

Seige can be done by tossing rocks on castles or resource flags.

Ic requirement is mobs not players so go in farm mobs and if you die just repeat. Tel var isn't the goal

10 even tickets is 4 days of just turning in quests. Have a few left

I did 11 of these last night in a few hours. I don't pvp much.

twisttop138 · February 21

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

(todays endeavours were horrible and time-consuming too)

10 beasts, 8 ore nodes, and placing 7 furnishings is time consuming?

That's it? (I'm at work) That makes me happy, it's an easy day.

On topic. I don't pvp much regularly. I've always been an end game pve guy. I enjoyed very much the BGs when they first launched though. I will say though. I hopped on last night, got the intro from the lady, got the BGs daily and dug in. I also went to the sewers for the first time in many years (returning player) I did almost every area daily in the city, got lost in the sewers. Got killed a bunch. Made some tel var. Lost a lot of tel var. Then my guild did a big boss run, all the way to molag ball, who I fought down there for the first time. Got some awesome loot, gold leads.

Man I had a great time. It pulled me out of my comfort zone and I really did have fun. I'm at work just waiting to get home and go again. Now, idk if I'll get the GP reward. It's a lot, those 15 tasks, but it's ok if I don't. I really want it but I'm having fun along the way.

AllenaNightWood · February 21

as i see it, its to encourage players to try activities then normally wouldnt do

MrGrim · February 21

DaniimalsSF wrote: »

I’m good with removing all rewards that require a player to engage in all of the PvP formats, as long as we can also remove all of the rewards that require players to engage in all of the PvE formats.

There is nothing more intolerable than when I have to engage in mind numbingly boring interactions with npcs and mobs because I’m forced to do it to earn a reward just because I want it. The devs hate me because they force me to do things I choose to do in this game instead of allowing me to choose to do the things I like.

That's why i don't want anything removed. i want more options added.
that way everyone can just play in the activities they actually enjoy to do.

valenwood_vegan · February 21

I mean there's a pvp event going on... of course the golden pursuit campaign is going to relate to it. And as pointed out, many of the tasks don't even require pvp.

But one thing is certain: no matter what options they offer for pursuits and endeavors, there will always be complaints.

Imo probably the only thing that might make them reconsider would be low participation, so I suggest voting with your feet... I know I'll be mostly playing something else during the event. It's just a game... don't partake if it's not fun.

theoverseer · February 21

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

(todays endeavours were horrible and time-consuming too)

10 beasts, 8 ore nodes, and placing 7 furnishings is time consuming?

Took me all of 10 minutes, what an ordeal.

OsUfi · February 21

I cannot fathom anyone having FOMO for a siege engine gathering animation.

If you don't want to PvP, just skip this pursuit.

nbksaske · February 21

Every year something like this comes up, I'm sure another one of the 10+ pve events will be on again, let PvP players get something for actually pvping 🤷

redlink1979 · February 21

The vast majority of in-game events are PvE related. PvP needs love too.

Juomuuri · February 21

I only like Battlegrounds when it comes to PvP, so I did the pursuits that relate to them and got the 150k AP I wanted - I'm okay with not getting the Tel Var reward or the customized action reward. If one wants all rewards, they should do the related PvP pursuits since this is a PvP golden pursuit! Simple as that. PvPers need some love too!

Oceanchanter · February 21

I hate PvP related stuff, but at least I have an excuse to farm Alliance Points and Tel Var Stones to get armor sets I otherwise wouldn't get
Because no way in Heaven and Hell I'd farm PvP related contentotherwise, and leveling characters (and even that is a maybe)

It's so lovely to be stuck at spawn point cause balance left the chat alongside some dude from my team

Hapexamendios · February 21

I don't like PvP myself, but the objectives for the Golden Pursuits are doable.

Dax_Draconis · February 21

The reward isn't big enough for me to participate in a game mode I despise. It needs to be a house next time and the goals should be at complete beginner level, like "Stand there and be a target dummy for the real PvP players" or "Ride your horse back to the same battle 50 times".

freespirit · February 21

I do PVP but not that often these days.

I'm sorry but there is a PVP event going on I think it is 100% fair that the latest Golden Pursuits reflect that, although many can be done without actually engaging with pure PVP tbh!

Nathanbreakfast · February 21

The idea of you sitting at the top of an IC tower light attacking mobs with 20k health, shaking in your boots at the idea of dropping down fills me with great joy. I look forward to killing you and taking your 230 telvar that took you an hour to accumulate in a matter of seconds.

DP99 · February 21

OsUfi wrote: »

I cannot fathom anyone having FOMO for a siege engine gathering animation.

If you don't want to PvP, just skip this pursuit.

That's what I'm doing, and it's not even because of the PVP.

I don't care for PVP, but I honestly care for the dumb rewards even less, so I'm skipping this one.

scrappy1342 · February 22

i definitely do not like pvp. not one bit. but there's ways around getting the event tickets that aren't too painful. the pursuits align nicely with the event tasks, so more than likely if you are just passively getting event tickets, you are going to make a pretty good dent in pursuits. but i'm also super thankful that it's just currency and a mining action for a reward. if it were a mount or costume or pet or something i would feel like i NEED it.

also LOVE the idea of only doing one task for tickets like pretty much every other event these days. also also, never understood why bg's don't count for event tickets