Please don't drop those 10th anniversary items again (let alone so soon)

DenverRalphy · January 2025

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

Elvenheart wrote: »

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Why doesn't ZOS release the tiger mount for purchase with crowns too? (everyone who has this mount will totally understand what I'm trying to say. These were limited time availability items that we were told would never be available again)

We were never told the style pages would never be available again. In fact, for the past number of years with the way things come back on the Impressario it would have been normal to assume the style pages would be back at some point, possibly during the next anniversary event. Now, I didn’t want to count on that assumption myself so I put in all the work it took to grind for them. That was my choice. I still hate the way the anniversary was done and like many others hope that ZOS never ever does anything like this again. But if them making the the styles available this way is the result of all the complaining so many people including myself did during the anniversary event, then I’m happy, and I’m happy for the ones that can get them now.

Well I for one was sure that we were told they were a limited items. There was much complaining about it at the time. That was what drove the manic rush to get the items. So all of those people who thought that were just wrong?

I don't recall them ever saying they were limited items. They said "Never before been earnable in game", but that's about it.

AngryPenguin · January 2025

spartaxoxo wrote: »

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Why doesn't ZOS release the tiger mount for purchase with crowns too? (everyone who has this mount will totally understand what I'm trying to say. These were limited time availability items that we were told would never be available again)

We were never told these pages would only be available once neither is that how event items tend to work.

They almost always return.

I'm pretty positive the announcement said specifically that those four 10th anniversary style pages were only available during the 10th anniversary event. That's why so many of us, apparent fools now, spent 40 hours and sometimes more grinding them out.

AngryPenguin · January 2025

Elvenheart wrote: »

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Why doesn't ZOS release the tiger mount for purchase with crowns too? (everyone who has this mount will totally understand what I'm trying to say. These were limited time availability items that we were told would never be available again)

We were never told the style pages would never be available again. In fact, for the past number of years with the way things come back on the Impressario it would have been normal to assume the style pages would be back at some point, possibly during the next anniversary event. Now, I didn’t want to count on that assumption myself so I put in all the work it took to grind for them. That was my choice. I still hate the way the anniversary was done and like many others hope that ZOS never ever does anything like this again. But if them making the the styles available this way is the result of all the complaining so many people including myself did during the anniversary event, then I’m happy, and I’m happy for the ones that can get them now.

It was certainly implied if not stated that these style pages would only be available during the 10th anniversary event.

spartaxoxo · January 2025

AngryPenguin wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

AngryPenguin wrote: »

Why doesn't ZOS release the tiger mount for purchase with crowns too? (everyone who has this mount will totally understand what I'm trying to say. These were limited time availability items that we were told would never be available again)

We were never told these pages would only be available once neither is that how event items tend to work.

They almost always return.

I'm pretty positive the announcement said specifically that those four 10th anniversary style pages were only available during the 10th anniversary event. That's why so many of us, apparent fools now, spent 40 hours and sometimes more grinding them out.

No. I just pulled up the announcement and it didn't say they were limited time only. I had edited it into my post but unfortunately I guess I wasn't fast enough. I'll link it again here for convenience.

In addition to the Gift Boxes and the rewards therein, you can also earn new cosmetic rewards that have never before been earnable in game, although they may be familiar to some players.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/65753

Jordan_Black · January 2025

I just read through all the comments and I agree with some and not others, and some people who disagree with me have fair points - but I can say one thing for sure:

I'm never grinding RNG crud that hard for any cosmetic in this game again if those pages for event tickets barely nine months later are the exact same thing I spent literal days trying to get.

SilverBride · January 2025

It was implied that these items were part of the 10 year Anniversary Jubilee.

Players begged for some help with these horrible drop rates. We begged for some communication but we didn't get it. They could have said "These may be available again in the future." But we were left to believe it was now it never.

The whole thing was handled very poorly.

liliub17_ESO · January 2025

...isn't the "10 Year Anniversary Jubilee" also a full year, though, rather than a one-off event? If so, it would make sense to bring back [name the thing] during that year. Especially since the first go-round was so ill-done.

spartaxoxo · January 2025

SilverBride wrote: »

It was implied that these items were part of the 10 year Anniversary Jubilee.

Players begged for some help with these horrible drop rates. We begged for some communication but we didn't get it. They could have said "These may be available again in the future." But we were left to believe it was now it never.

The whole thing was handled very poorly.

They also said that 10 year anniversary would include both 2024 and 2025 because it's console's 10 year anniversary this year. So, the 10 year anniversary is not currently over.

Anyway, the PTS does state it was in keeping with the 10 year but also does not state it was limited time.

In keeping with our 10th year of shenanigans in ESO, certain activities in the game will now offer you some unique, never-before-sourced cosmetic rewards from exploring certain areas or systems of the game.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/652319/pts-patch-notes-v9-3-2

I don't recall ZOS ever stating it would be limited time only. I remember us asking because it would make sense to limit it to the 10 year anniversary celebrations. But, I don't remember seeing them ever respond to that.

Jordan_Black · January 2025

I don't think they need to be specific about drop rates, and I don't think they need to be specific about if something will be available again. They can keep the element of mystery, that's fine. But to say it again, if I spent literal days grinding for something that becomes available a mere nine months later for event tickets, I ain't never grinding for any cosmetic ever again on that scale. I assumed with that low of a drop rate and being associated with a 10 year anniversary event, they might wait at least a few years before just giving them away to everyone else. Maybe I'm a dope for assuming that - won't happen again.

Jordan_Black · January 2025

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

SilverBride · January 2025

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

It was implied that these items were part of the 10 year Anniversary Jubilee.

Players begged for some help with these horrible drop rates. We begged for some communication but we didn't get it. They could have said "These may be available again in the future." But we were left to believe it was now it never.

The whole thing was handled very poorly.

They also said that 10 year anniversary would include both 2024 and 2025 because it's console's 10 year anniversary this year. So, the 10 year anniversary is not currently over.

Anyway, the PTS does state it was in keeping with the 10 year but also does not state it was limited time.

In keeping with our 10th year of shenanigans in ESO, certain activities in the game will now offer you some unique, never-before-sourced cosmetic rewards from exploring certain areas or systems of the game.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/652319/pts-patch-notes-v9-3-2

I don't recall ZOS ever stating it would be limited time only. I remember us asking because it would make sense to limit it to the 10 year anniversary celebrations. But, I don't remember seeing them ever respond to that.

Let's just agree to disagree, now and moving forward.

Elvenheart · January 2025

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

I agree with the sentiment that I would have rather them be obtainable with less effort, and had I known for sure that they would be coming back in the future I might have waited myself. But the title of this thread is “Please don't drop those 10th anniversary items again” so that is why it could be deduced that you don’t want others to have them.

joergino · January 2025

The attitudes displayed by some members of this "community" are frankly disgusting.

I grinded that horrible event like crazy and got three of the items, but the Staff of Worms simply did not drop before the event was over. Apprently lack of luck is something we are supposed to be happy with.

spartaxoxo · January 2025

Elvenheart wrote: »

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

I agree with the sentiment that I would have rather them be obtainable with less effort, and had I known for sure that they would be coming back in the future I might have waited myself. But the title of this thread is “Please don't drop those 10th anniversary items again” so that is why it could be deduced that you don’t want others to have them.

This. I actually completely agree that they could have communicated better and that the grind was insane and not something I'd want to do again. I do still have bad feelings about those style pages. I kind of ruined them for myself after initially being pretty excited about them. I won't make that mistake a second time.

The only things I disagree with is that ZOS said they wouldn't come back because afaik I know is it's simply untrue. And that others shouldn't get another crack at them. I know of people who grinded more than me that didn't get them all! I find that to be completely unfair, especially since a 10th anniversary should be special and nice! If any time is the time to spoil your players a little, it is a milestone anniversary!

Jordan_Black · January 2025

Elvenheart wrote: »

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

I agree with the sentiment that I would have rather them be obtainable with less effort, and had I known for sure that they would be coming back in the future I might have waited myself. But the title of this thread is “Please don't drop those 10th anniversary items again” so that is why it could be deduced that you don’t want others to have them.

I suppose it could be "deduced" if you just read the title and skipped the rest of what I had to say, sure, but that would be a pretty dumb way of deducing something. I suppose it's selfish of me to want my days of grinding to actually have meant something, but it's no more selfish than wanting to get the items in the next event if you never got them in the first place. Literally everyone posting in this thread both (a) wants game rewards and (b) wants their game time to mean something. As far as I can tell, there's no reason to accuse any participant of bad motives.

joergino · January 2025

Jordan_Black wrote: »

I suppose it's selfish of me to want my days of grinding to actually have meant something

As opposed to players like myself whose grinding meant nothing because RNG did not favour them.

Jordan_Black · January 2025

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Elvenheart wrote: »

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

I agree with the sentiment that I would have rather them be obtainable with less effort, and had I known for sure that they would be coming back in the future I might have waited myself. But the title of this thread is “Please don't drop those 10th anniversary items again” so that is why it could be deduced that you don’t want others to have them.

This. I actually completely agree that they could have communicated better and that the grind was insane and not something I'd want to do again. I do still have bad feelings about those style pages. I kind of ruined them for myself after initially being pretty excited about them. I won't make that mistake a second time.

The only things I disagree with is that ZOS said they wouldn't come back because afaik I know is it's simply untrue. And that others shouldn't get another crack at them. I know of people who grinded more than me that didn't get them all! I find that to be completely unfair, especially since a 10th anniversary should be special and nice! If any time is the time to spoil your players a little, it is a milestone anniversary!

I would agree with this 100% if there was a way to do it without making those of us who put in the time to get them feel like dopes for not just waiting a few months for all of it to drop effortlessly. Tweak the items just a tad? Sure. Heck, release them again with the same drop rate for the same amount of time? Great. There may be other, better ways, too - those are just off the top of my head.

Lyraen_Skyforge · January 2025

SilverBride wrote: »

They could have said "These may be available again in the future." But we were left to believe it was now it never.

The whole thing was handled very poorly.

The number of play hours during that event would have dropped significantly if players had known the FOMO items would later be obtainable with ease.

While I understand the goal is to drive up playtime and log-ins, many of their tactics have become increasingly abusive toward their most engaged players.

It no longer feels like the focus is on players having fun. Instead, it seems like they’re trying to extract as much time and money from us as possible with minimal effort.

Jordan_Black · January 2025

RomanRex wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

They could have said "These may be available again in the future." But we were left to believe it was now it never.

The whole thing was handled very poorly.

The number of play hours during that event would have dropped significantly if players had known the FOMO items would later be obtainable with ease.

While I understand the goal is to drive up playtime and log-ins, many of their tactics have become increasingly abusive toward their most engaged players.

It no longer feels like the focus is on players having fun. Instead, it seems like they’re trying to extract as much time and money from us as possible with minimal effort.

Yes, this is good. I take back my suggestion to release them again at the same drop rate. Release tweaked items that look incredibly similar so that in some sense everyone can get them while those of us who did the ridiculous grind until they dropped can at least keep some badge of having done so without feeling like Charlie Brown after Lucy yanks away the football, and then never do such a ridiculous grind-drop again.

Vulkunne · January 2025

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

You is absolutely right. And others who didn't spend a ton of time and energy trying to track those things down aren't going to understand. They will jump on here, and I think will say anything to justify anything else, any other way around earning it. Many people didn't want to put in the work, so when they started compensating some folks from not being able to participate due to PTS issues, but then EVERYONE wanted 'their' compensation package. It's funny cause I've worked for things all my life and I'm still waiting for mine. I've spent so much money on this game can I get maybe a fruit basket or somethin'?

There's no way to pin it down and thinking about it will drive you absolutely nanners. Lets just hope... I say again, let's hope against hope that they don't do this again with another set. Next time just hand it out and let us be, please I absolutely emplore you guys to just give 'em away cause you did that anyways, basically. Alot of people were not happy and that's something which in fairness, you just can't ignore forever, I understand that but some of us worked really hard getting these rewards which were advertised as being real exclusive and for some of us alot of work and personal time went into this.

Elvenheart · January 2025

But what about the people who put in even more time and effort than we did and still didn’t get what they wanted due to the poor way the event was implemented? Why can’t we at least be happy for them? If they implemented the same thing again with the exact same drop rate and conditions, it would be another horrible repeat of something we all want to forget.

JemadarofCaerSalis · January 2025

Vulkunne wrote: »

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

You is absolutely right. And others who didn't spend a ton of time and energy trying to track those things down aren't going to understand. They will jump on here, and I think will say anything to justify anything else, any other way around earning it. Many people didn't want to put in the work, so when they started compensating some folks from not being able to participate due to PTS issues, but then EVERYONE wanted 'their' compensation package. It's funny cause I've worked for things all my life and I'm still waiting for mine. I've spent so much money on this game can I get maybe a fruit basket or somethin'?

There's no way to pin it down and thinking about it will drive you absolutely nanners. Lets just hope... I say again, let's hope against hope that they don't do this again with another set. Next time just hand it out and let us be, please I absolutely emplore you guys to just give 'em away cause you did that anyways, basically. Alot of people were not happy and that's something which in fairness, you just can't ignore forever.

I, for one, spent the time and effort and got all the styles I wanted through the event, and I am glad they are coming back.

I have long learned to dislike 'exclusive' items, even cosmetic, in video games. While I understand *why* they might have them, to me, I far prefer to have things available, even if it requires work to obtain, than have something around for a limited time and retire forever, never to return, even if the game lasts decades.

I have also seen and hated this attitude of 'people just want things handed to them for free' when something like this comes up.

Even with buying them, each one costs 10 tickets, that means that each one is going to take at least 3 days of doing whatever it will take to get tickets to get *one*. If you want more than just one, then that is going to be even longer, and means that you can't buy anything else the event has to offer for sale.

Even if I had known they were coming back and could be bought, I would have still tried to obtain them through the original methods, because there is no telling what life is going to throw at me and whether I will be able to obtain them during the next event they are offered. Plus, again, at 10 tickets each, it means that I wouldn't be able to get anything else I wanted from the event, if there is something.

So, no, it isn't 'free' from effort, it is just a different type of effort than was before, and even though it is *less* effort, it could instead be argued that the original method was *too much* effort, and something like this should have been how it was originally.

Vulkunne · January 2025

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

You is absolutely right. And others who didn't spend a ton of time and energy trying to track those things down aren't going to understand. They will jump on here, and I think will say anything to justify anything else, any other way around earning it. Many people didn't want to put in the work, so when they started compensating some folks from not being able to participate due to PTS issues, but then EVERYONE wanted 'their' compensation package. It's funny cause I've worked for things all my life and I'm still waiting for mine. I've spent so much money on this game can I get maybe a fruit basket or somethin'?

There's no way to pin it down and thinking about it will drive you absolutely nanners. Lets just hope... I say again, let's hope against hope that they don't do this again with another set. Next time just hand it out and let us be, please I absolutely emplore you guys to just give 'em away cause you did that anyways, basically. Alot of people were not happy and that's something which in fairness, you just can't ignore forever.

I, for one, spent the time and effort and got all the styles I wanted through the event, and I am glad they are coming back.

I have long learned to dislike 'exclusive' items, even cosmetic, in video games. While I understand *why* they might have them, to me, I far prefer to have things available, even if it requires work to obtain, than have something around for a limited time and retire forever, never to return, even if the game lasts decades.

I have also seen and hated this attitude of 'people just want things handed to them for free' when something like this comes up.

Even with buying them, each one costs 10 tickets, that means that each one is going to take at least 3 days of doing whatever it will take to get tickets to get *one*. If you want more than just one, then that is going to be even longer, and means that you can't buy anything else the event has to offer for sale.

Even if I had known they were coming back and could be bought, I would have still tried to obtain them through the original methods, because there is no telling what life is going to throw at me and whether I will be able to obtain them during the next event they are offered. Plus, again, at 10 tickets each, it means that I wouldn't be able to get anything else I wanted from the event, if there is something.

So, no, it isn't 'free' from effort, it is just a different type of effort than was before, and even though it is *less* effort, it could instead be argued that the original method was *too much* effort, and something like this should have been how it was originally.

There are obviously a considerable number of players out there who feel the same way. So, in this instance and knowing this now, a better strategy would be to not do this again, not make things too exclusive for reasons stated. If you're telling a story or singing a song, better to give the audience what they came for and move on.

DenverRalphy · January 2025

SilverBride wrote: »

It was implied that these items were part of the 10 year Anniversary Jubilee.

Players begged for some help with these horrible drop rates. We begged for some communication but we didn't get it. They could have said "These may be available again in the future." But we were left to believe it was now it never.

The whole thing was handled very poorly.

I'm of the opinion that at the time they probably hadn't even considered putting them back in game so soon, and certainly not earlier than the next Jubilee. I'd bet dollars to donuts that this development is more of a "Kiss and make up" decision. Because yeah, the whole endeavor was a chaotic mess.

ApoAlaia · January 2025

Elvenheart wrote: »

But what about the people who put in even more time and effort than we did and still didn’t get what they wanted due to the poor way the event was implemented? Why can’t we at least be happy for them? If they implemented the same thing again with the exact same drop rate and conditions, it would be another horrible repeat of something we all want to forget.

I can and I am.

The implementation during the 10th anniversary event was a mistake.

We told them during the PTS that it was a mistake.

We told them - as @spartaxoxo has said earlier in the thread - to choose two out of 'exceedingly rare, time limited, account bound', they went ahead with all three.

We reiterated this during the event to no effect.

This time around even though they have not admitted fault they have corrected the mistake.

They cannot do this retroactively; those of us who had the event soured by this mistake that is a done deal, it cannot be changed.

However moving forward no one will have to experience it ever again.

That brings me some amount of, if not joy, at least relief.

hiyde · January 2025

SilverBride wrote: »

I think they need to put these style pages on the crown store FREE for EVERYONE in light of the lockouts and the horrendous grind players have gone through. This event was just one huge issue after another and is leaving a lot of players with less than good feelings.
Just give us these style pages. What would it hurt?

hiyde wrote: »

There are some very gracious folks out there with all 5 style pages who would have no problem with it.

There would also be a large number of FURIOUS players who did the Grind From Hell only to have the items immediately given away for free to all players. And I wouldn't blame 'em.

I think the best we can reasonably hope for is to see them return, maybe later in the year and hopefully easier to get.

This supergrind for birthday gifts never should have made it past PTS. But reverting it now would be a PR trainwreck.

That quote is from a big thread on this last year and one of the most common suggestions was to bring these back within a year with a more reliable way to obtain. I thought then that was the best solution to a bad situation and I think it now. Kudos to ZOS for doing this in away that allowed exclusivity to the (successful) grinders for nearly a year but also allows others a way to get them within the 10th anniversary window.

spartaxoxo · January 2025

Jordan_Black wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Elvenheart wrote: »

Jordan_Black wrote: »

And as for the accusations of selfishness, ridiculous. It's not that I don't want you to have them - it's that I would have rather just waited and gotten them free of effort.

I agree with the sentiment that I would have rather them be obtainable with less effort, and had I known for sure that they would be coming back in the future I might have waited myself. But the title of this thread is “Please don't drop those 10th anniversary items again” so that is why it could be deduced that you don’t want others to have them.

This. I actually completely agree that they could have communicated better and that the grind was insane and not something I'd want to do again. I do still have bad feelings about those style pages. I kind of ruined them for myself after initially being pretty excited about them. I won't make that mistake a second time.

The only things I disagree with is that ZOS said they wouldn't come back because afaik I know is it's simply untrue. And that others shouldn't get another crack at them. I know of people who grinded more than me that didn't get them all! I find that to be completely unfair, especially since a 10th anniversary should be special and nice! If any time is the time to spoil your players a little, it is a milestone anniversary!

I would agree with this 100% if there was a way to do it without making those of us who put in the time to get them feel like dopes for not just waiting a few months for all of it to drop effortlessly. Tweak the items just a tad? Sure. Heck, release them again with the same drop rate for the same amount of time? Great. There may be other, better ways, too - those are just off the top of my head.

Your feelings are your own. Again, I did work for these drops. I have all of them. It took me hundreds of pulls, dozens of hours, and the entirety of the event. And that was considered "lucky."

Some people look at bad design getting fixed and go "If I had to go through something garbage, then other people should too. Or I should get something extra than what I agreed to grind for."

And some people look at bad design getting fixed and go "Good! Now nobody else has to go through that again."

I fall into the latter camp. I don't feel spite or bitterness that another group of players will have things better than I did. I am glad that ZOS fixed their bad design. I hope I get to benefit from it in the future because this sort of design never makes it way back into the game.

At the end of the day, it was my choice to ruin it for myself with the excessive grind. Nobody made me do that. They official announcements did not say it wouldn't come back. I don't mind grinding when I can sell off or buy excess items or when it's not limited time, so I did not think I would still be annoyed when this was finished. Now I know.

spartaxoxo · January 2025

Vulkunne wrote: »

You is absolutely right. And others who didn't spend a ton of time and energy trying to track those things down aren't going to understand. They will jump on here, and I think will say anything to justify anything else, any other way around earning it.

Many of the people in this thread did grind. That's how I earned it and I made a thread complaining about it after I got the rewards. This is not a thread of people trying to get stuff.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

So, I finally got all of the event style pages. It took me 104 fishing pulls, 113 dolmens, 24 geysers, and 373 Vvardenfell total boss kills for both pages. I grinded these items in that order. This took me about 44 hours and 6 minutes over the course of the event. This does not include downtime to do things like deconstruct and loot boxes or travel between boss spawns when I needed to switch up scenery. It was an incredibly frustrating experience.

BTW that took me basically the entire event and I was one of the "lucky" ones.

Vulkunne · January 2025

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

You is absolutely right. And others who didn't spend a ton of time and energy trying to track those things down aren't going to understand. They will jump on here, and I think will say anything to justify anything else, any other way around earning it.

Many of the people in this thread did grind. That's how I earned it and I made a thread complaining about it after I got the rewards. This is not a thread of people trying to get stuff.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

So, I finally got all of the event style pages. It took me 104 fishing pulls, 113 dolmens, 24 geysers, and 373 Vvardenfell total boss kills for both pages. I grinded these items in that order. This took me about 44 hours and 6 minutes over the course of the event. This does not include downtime to do things like deconstruct and loot boxes or travel between boss spawns when I needed to switch up scenery. It was an incredibly frustrating experience.

BTW that took me basically the entire event and I was one of the "lucky" ones.

But didn't you just get thru saying, "Your feelings are your own." in reply to basically the same poster I was agreeing with?

I'm sure the same applies to me as well and quite frankly I can't help it if some don't like what I'm saying. There are things other people have said on here that I don't like. I think they were being really mean, ill-tempered, unprofessional and short-sighted.

Anyways, I respect your ability to express yourself and to disagree but that has to work both ways, but it can't work if every point we don't like is being 'canceled' from the conversation, as I'm sure you can understand. At any rate, specifically I was replying to two other people. If you would like to contribute to what we're discussing, I think that's great but then again if not, I see no reason to make this about the thread itself. This is just another reason why not to do this because people want to talk about it and then some out there don't want us sharing our horrible experiences from that week trying to hunt all this stuff down.

Respectfully, I appreciate that my feelings are my own too and I also contributed heavily both to participation in that event as well as the game itself.

spartaxoxo · January 2025

Vulkunne wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

You is absolutely right. And others who didn't spend a ton of time and energy trying to track those things down aren't going to understand. They will jump on here, and I think will say anything to justify anything else, any other way around earning it.

Many of the people in this thread did grind. That's how I earned it and I made a thread complaining about it after I got the rewards. This is not a thread of people trying to get stuff.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

So, I finally got all of the event style pages. It took me 104 fishing pulls, 113 dolmens, 24 geysers, and 373 Vvardenfell total boss kills for both pages. I grinded these items in that order. This took me about 44 hours and 6 minutes over the course of the event. This does not include downtime to do things like deconstruct and loot boxes or travel between boss spawns when I needed to switch up scenery. It was an incredibly frustrating experience.

BTW that took me basically the entire event and I was one of the "lucky" ones.

But didn't you just get thru saying, "Your feelings are your own." in reply to someone else on here? I'm sure the same applies to me and quite frankly I can't help it if you don't like what I'm saying. I respect your ability to express yourself and to disagree but that has to work both ways as I'm sure you can understand. At any rate, specifically I was replying to two other people. If you have nothing to contribute to what we're discussing between us, then I see no reason to make this about the thread.

I appreciate that my feelings are my own too, thank you.

The comment I responded to essentially summed up to that people in this thread just want things handed to them. At least, that's how I read it. And I responded to that by proving that I have personally nothing to gain. And also noting that I saw some of these same people in this thread discussing the grind back then. Some of them have also posted how they did grind all event but weren't lucky enough to get all the drops.

We are all entitled to our feelings. But, not all things are a matter of opinion.

Whether or not any one of us grinded for drops is something that happened or it did not. In this case, several people in this thread did grind.

Edit

I think that's a fair point to make when discussing whether or not players on here who disagree with the idea of putting them back in the game are people who didn't bother. There's a lot of people who did grind and got everything but still support ZOS or did grind and didn't get everything.