Now that it's been a bit... do you wish for the old BGs back?

loosej · December 17

No, they should not come back

I'm actually enjoying the new format a lot more than the old one (playing only 8v8). XvXvX works well on a large scale, but I feel it doesn't work as well on a small scale. Even in Cyrodiil the low population caps are starting to show how pointless it even is to fight when the two other teams pick yours as their target. For three teams to work there needs to be room for teams to split up and go after multiple objectives. If you're the only one on your team to go after a new flag in Crazy King, and you arrive there together with two enemies, you're pretty much screwed because they have double your numbers. In the new format you're more likely to have some support and less likely to be vastly outnumbered.

Some matches have been very unbalanced, where it was clear within the first 3 minutes who would win and the rest of the time was just waiting for it to be over with. But I have also been in a lot of matches where it was unclear who would win until the very last second, and I think having a decent MMR system could increase the chances of getting in fights like that.

So overall I'm happy with the new battlegrounds.

Treeshka · December 17

I think old format can be put into the current 8v8 queue. So you queue and a match forms. It can either be 8v8 or 4v4v4 but meanwhile 4v4 competitive queue can stay as it is.

Lets assume they did this, and additionally medal based leaderboard should be changed to 8v8 and 4v4v4 game modes. Then they can make a ToT like ranking system for 4v4 game mode.

Thumbless_Bot · December 17

Yes/No but 4v4v4 should be revamped then brought back permanently

plasmab3ard wrote: »

I don't know a single person who wants 4v4v4 back. Reading the forum, it seems to me that there are ~4 posters here who make thread after thread after thread complaining about the new and improved 2 team format while everyone else is in-game enjoying them.

I've never known anyone who suffers from heart disease outside of the one or two 'news' shows that report on these things... must not be as rampant as they say....

Nevermind that there are 32 votes on this one thread for exactly the point you say you don't see outside of four people.

Hit me up in game on pcna and I will get you added to the bg guild i am in. It's a real great guild with a lot of discussion on this topic and a lot of other fun build and bg related stuff. Maybe the discussion has died down a bit in favor of other things since the release is been ga for a while now, but yeah, it's not just four people.

johnJrant · December 17

cytex_uo wrote: »

absolutely not. the old way catered even more the the daily rewards pve'r. it was way too spread out and the non pvpers could just escape combat and do objectives. I like the 2 teams, cyr should be 2 teams so its not a third group just trolling and popshotting u from a distance or one button chump ball grouping your backside while you are fight another large group. It could definitely be revamped, I made a post on how it should be revamped. but there's very few actual pvpers, and if you are a casual you shouldn't be trying to make rules that are beneficial to you. PVE is 90% of the game, pvpers get 10% we should be the ones listened to for that portion and yall should have to adapt to it, and just get better. But we don't buy stacks worth of crowns from them for housing nonsense so we don't get listened to. lol. pvp is dead because of it, just waiting for a game with similar pvp autonomy to come out one day. praying to the pvp godsss

I buy both chapters and crowns. And I only play on BG. 4x4 DM have become much better. Much more personalized fights. If I would like to see the return of 4x4х4, it is only with difficult maps for capturing the flag. The new 4x4 is much better as a competitive mode.

Noerra · December 17

Yes/No but 4v4v4 should be an event mode

What I dislike the most about the new BGs is that one team usually afks in spawn when they start losing and that it takes the game 2 minutes to spawn them down below. It's more noticeable in 4v4 than 8v8.

I think they should make ranked 4v4v4 and unranked 8v8.

I just don't think 4v4 works and is a big disaster. I don't queue for it because one of the teams is going to lose the first clash and proceed to afk in spawn. It's very rare to get a close 4v4 game in my experience.

I really like the 8v8 concept though. I like the bigger teams, I find it really fun. I think they just need to iron out the wrinkles so to speak.

I would say Merge Solo and Group queues into just "8v8 Battlegrounds" - this will shorten queue times and improve small group queuing experiences. It's always such a bummer when you want to do BGs with your buddy but you have to "group queue" and it takes forever to get a game and when you do you are usually against a team that was bigger and more organized when they queued.

I would say bring back 4v4v4 and make that the ranked mode. Again, I'm a fan of merging solo and group queues into one. Faster Queue times for individuals, small groups, and full groups.