Bow heavy attack need to work like Dest staff

wOOOOt_of_SD · February 2015

Staff heavy attack just charges up and fires when ready, you just hold the fire button.

With Bow, it pulls but do not fire when ready - and the problem is that as a player you don't know when the bow is fully pulled.

So it would be only fair that the bow Works like the staff. Hold the button for repeatable heavy attacks.

Thx.

Dekkameron · February 2015

You can do the same as the destro staff heavy attack with practice. It doesnt take long to get the nack of it. I actually prefer the bow personally being able to be held. As i find it helps with attacks from stealth as well as using either bombard or venom arrow to release the shot.

olsborg · February 2015

Just look at the back elbow, when it "twitches" back into position, as far back as it goes, its fully charged.

Kragorn · February 2015

olsborg wrote: »

Just look at the back elbow, when it "twitches" back into position, as far back as it goes, its fully charged.

You get an insightful for that, I'd never figure that out in a million years.

wOOOOt_of_SD · February 2015

Still, staff has an advantage over bow here, and no matter how good you get at spotting when its ready,
you will always Loose a little bit of dps since its impossible to hit it right 100% of the time.
Staff hits heavy attack 100% all the time - and bow are at an disadvantage in comparison.

Beldorr · February 2015

Bows have the ability to do sneak attacks where staffs do not. It sometimes is advantages to cancel or hold a heavy attack to remain in stealth. Mostly in PVP, not so much an issue for PVE. You only lose a bit of dps if you are only comparing consecutive heavy attacks which both staff and bow will be at disadvantage to someone weaving an ability in-between heavy attacks.

Digiman · February 2015

wOOOOt_of_SD wrote: »

Still, staff has an advantage over bow here, and no matter how good you get at spotting when its ready,
you will always Loose a little bit of dps since its impossible to hit it right 100% of the time.
Staff hits heavy attack 100% all the time - and bow are at an disadvantage in comparison.

The problem is your trading away your stealth benefit for a minor DPS increase you can get with proper practice. There are times when charging up a full attack and having auto fire has pulled me out of stealth and got me killed quickly.

In terms for PvE you need to practice with bow.

yodased · February 2015

you can also cancel your heavy attack with bow by simply pressing the key associated with your skill while holding a heavy attack. That will give you 2 hits instantly.

protip

driosketch · February 2015

Players wouldn't like the bow heavy attack going off automatically like the staff. I know this because that's how bows used to work back in the early early beta. And that's why it was changed, due to feedback.

Bows just lend themselves better to a stealth attack mindset. Those types of players like charge and position before releasing the attack.

OrphanHelgen · March 2015

wOOOOt_of_SD wrote: »

Still, staff has an advantage over bow here, and no matter how good you get at spotting when its ready,
you will always Loose a little bit of dps since its impossible to hit it right 100% of the time.
Staff hits heavy attack 100% all the time - and bow are at an disadvantage in comparison.

I am agree!

driosketch wrote: »

Players wouldn't like the bow heavy attack going off automatically like the staff. I know this because that's how bows used to work back in the early early beta. And that's why it was changed, due to feedback.

Bows just lend themselves better to a stealth attack mindset. Those types of players like charge and position before releasing the attack.

How many actually does this in this game? If they changed it once, they can change it twice

stewart.leslie76b16_ESO · March 2015

To me, the bow is a sniping weapon,, I would rather hold my pull so my arrow hits the target when I want it to. When there is a group of mobs, some wandering and one stationary, I will target the stationary and pull my bow and wait for the perfect time to release. If the release was automatic I would have to time the release with the timings of the wandering mobs.

Forumer-in-Prison · March 2015

stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »

To me, the bow is a sniping weapon,, I would rather hold my pull so my arrow hits the target when I want it to. When there is a group of mobs, some wandering and one stationary, I will target the stationary and pull my bow and wait for the perfect time to release. If the release was automatic I would have to time the release with the timings of the wandering mobs.

QFT !!!

Skafsgaard · March 2015

wOOOOt_of_SD wrote: »

Still, staff has an advantage over bow here, and no matter how good you get at spotting when its ready,
you will always Loose a little bit of dps since its impossible to hit it right 100% of the time.
Staff hits heavy attack 100% all the time - and bow are at an disadvantage in comparison.

Im sure there's a lot of sneaky sneaky bow types out there that wouldnt agree with this. Make it a toggle somewhere in settings for all I care, but I always liked the way a heavy was charged and ready to let go.

Edit:
For PvP I guess you could argue the bow would out dps the staff, because the bow user would never need to charge his 1st heavy.

wOOOOt_of_SD · March 2015

I agree that how it Works now is better in some situations.

A toggle option would be optimal solution.

akriden · March 2015

Oh i fought this is a kind of bug Oo
Mainly because every other weapon work correctly

Erotes · March 2015

akriden wrote: »

Oh i fought this is a kind of bug Oo
Mainly because every other weapon work correctly

Really? Because the healing staffs light and heavy attacks are astoundingly awful and clunky. If you do try and charge the staff for a heavy attack, it glitches and doesn't charge. It is terrible :-/

Tankqull · March 2015

wOOOOt_of_SD wrote: »

Still, staff has an advantage over bow here, and no matter how good you get at spotting when its ready,
you will always Loose a little bit of dps since its impossible to hit it right 100% of the time.
Staff hits heavy attack 100% all the time - and bow are at an disadvantage in comparison.

destro heavy attack(fire&ice) is compleatly charged before the animation is finished. witing for it to be fired automatically is actual the same dps waste as beeing unable to realize the twitching.

Artem_gig · December 6

so it's his fault for this lousy bow shooting update... It would be better if they at least added a parameter in the settings responsible for automatic shooting.

ZOS_Icy · December 6

Greetings,

We have closed this topic as it was originally created in February 2015. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

Thank you for your understanding.