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My sister wants to play, does she have to buy a whole new game?
Charles_A
Soul Shriven
Or can she just download the client through my account and pay the subscription fee for a separate account (I bought the online version, not the tangible one)? Her wallet would be very disappointed if she would have to pay for another edition despite the fact that I have already done so, especially considering the fact that there's a hefty subscription fee on top of everything...
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Korozenn✭✭✭✭Yes, she would have to both purchase the game as well as another separate monthly subscription plan along with her purchase to be granted access.0 -
BrassRazoo✭✭✭✭✭If you don't want to play at the same time then she could just go 50/50 with you in a sub and you get 4 characters each.
But if you want to play together, or at the same time then yes, she would need to buy it and create a separate account.
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Reenlister✭✭✭BrassRazoo wrote: »If you don't want to play at the same time then she could just go 50/50 with you in a sub and you get 4 characters each.
But if you want to play together, or at the same time then yes, she would need to buy it and create a separate account.
Bad advice...
from the EULA
A.in whole or in part, distribute, publicly perform of display, sell, transmit, publish, edit, reproduce, sublicense, rent, lease, loan or otherwise transfer the Game, any related software or content, including without limitation any access keys;
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Kreager✭✭✭Reenlister wrote: »BrassRazoo wrote: »If you don't want to play at the same time then she could just go 50/50 with you in a sub and you get 4 characters each.
But if you want to play together, or at the same time then yes, she would need to buy it and create a separate account.
Bad advice...
from the EULA
A.in whole or in part, distribute, publicly perform of display, sell, transmit, publish, edit, reproduce, sublicense, rent, lease, loan or otherwise transfer the Game, any related software or content, including without limitation any access keys;
Yeah cause this never , ever happens in the same household
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Reenlister✭✭✭mmdartzb14_ESO wrote: »Reenlister wrote: »BrassRazoo wrote: »If you don't want to play at the same time then she could just go 50/50 with you in a sub and you get 4 characters each.
But if you want to play together, or at the same time then yes, she would need to buy it and create a separate account.
Bad advice...
from the EULA
A.in whole or in part, distribute, publicly perform of display, sell, transmit, publish, edit, reproduce, sublicense, rent, lease, loan or otherwise transfer the Game, any related software or content, including without limitation any access keys;
Yeah cause this never , ever happens in the same household
Nope.. Never heard of such a thing. I know no one would ever do this and post about it...
oh look! A squirrel!
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At these prices it's probably best to share an account.
Mom gets her fix in the daytime. Son comes home from school, plays his character for a couple hours. Pops couldn't care less about ESO. And the daughter, she's into boys, not Betty Netches.4 -
Blackwolfe5✭✭✭michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »At these prices it's probably best to share an account.
Mom gets her fix in the daytime. Son comes home from school, plays his character for a couple hours. Pops couldn't care less about ESO. And the daughter, she's into boys, not Betty Netches.
Why that little! Send her to the netch farm!2 -
Saerydoth✭✭✭✭michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »At these prices it's probably best to share an account.
Mom gets her fix in the daytime. Son comes home from school, plays his character for a couple hours. Pops couldn't care less about ESO. And the daughter, she's into boys, not Betty Netches.
Sharing accounts is against the ToS.1 -
Reenlister✭✭✭michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »At these prices it's probably best to share an account.
Mom gets her fix in the daytime. Son comes home from school, plays his character for a couple hours. Pops couldn't care less about ESO. And the daughter, she's into boys, not Betty Netches.
Sharing accounts is against the ToS.
Aye see my post above.
Also see, I know this never happens, and no one would ever condone such a thing in their house and tell of it on the boards... cough cough...
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ZOS_TristanK✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hi there, @Charles_A. Sharing accounts is against our Terms of Service, so your sister would have to set up her own account and subscription in order to play.9 -
ebunts14_ESO✭✭✭I would guess that even though it is against the ToS it would not be illegal, legally speaking. If it was, then buying any video game, single player or otherwise would be illegal for other members of the household to play that game within the household. Same could be said for buying movie dvd and other media and others watching the movie that you bought.
Oh I am not condoning any action other than you playing your own account.Edited by ebunts14_ESO on May 12, 2014 11:06PM2 -
Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
✭Most MMO have a "no sharing" clause in their ToS to prevent you from sharing your account between people across the world, but they typically don't pursue people for sharing their accounts with people who live in the same house because it's impossible to track that and also because doing so would be dumb.Edited by Maverick827 on May 12, 2014 11:11PM5 -
Saerydoth✭✭✭✭ebuntsb14_ESO wrote: »I would guess that even though it is against the ToS it would not be illegal, legally speaking. If it was, then buying any video game, single player or otherwise would be illegal for other members of the household to play that game within the household. Same could be said for buying movie dvd and other media and others watching the movie that you bought.
Oh I am not condoning any action other than you playing your own account.
It's not "illegal" as in the cops will pay you a visit for doing it. But it is against the terms of service, and they can ban your account for it.2 -
ebunts14_ESO✭✭✭You know what I find funny, you have parents that bought the game (for a child, teen or younger), set up account using CC and the child is the one that plays the game (but not the parent/s).
Because the parent is the legal account holder, any child could not play according to the ToS. How many accounts would be closed if this was upheld by Zenimax.2 -
Saerydoth✭✭✭✭ebuntsb14_ESO wrote: »You know what I find funny, you have parents that bought the game (for a child, teen or younger), set up account using CC and the child is the one that plays the game (but not the parent/s).
Because the parent is the legal account holder, any child could not play according to the ToS. How many accounts would be closed if this was upheld by Zenimax.
There is a specific clause in the terms of service that allows one minor child to play an account in their parent's name. This is because a minor cannot legally agree to the terms of service.4 -
Dominulf✭✭✭She can use it if she wants.
What if I play at home and at work or school? They are going to ban my account for being accessed by two different IPs?
Give me a breakThe Elder Scrolls Online - Where the best spells are AoEs and the strongest weapon is a Shield!
"I used to be the most beloved roleplaying series of a generation... but then I took $14.99/mo to the knee."0 -
axiod✭GossiTheDog wrote: »A minor isn't even allowed to play the game as the game is rated Mature.
Parent's permission overrides that.. just like you can watch a R rated movie in the theater with a parent.. sigh..
[btw, I wish they would add a "roll your eyes" emote 
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ebunts14_ESO✭✭✭ebuntsb14_ESO wrote: »You know what I find funny, you have parents that bought the game (for a child, teen or younger), set up account using CC and the child is the one that plays the game (but not the parent/s).
Because the parent is the legal account holder, any child could not play according to the ToS. How many accounts would be closed if this was upheld by Zenimax.
There is a specific clause in the terms of service that allows one minor child to play an account in their parent's name. This is because a minor cannot legally agree to the terms of service.
In that case since a minor cannot be legally bound to the ToS, then how can the brother (if a minor) break the ToS by allowing his sister (a minor) to play the game on the same account? Im not talking about a parent allowing two minor children to play.
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Reenlister✭✭✭Really, you guys are still at this?
Its not a debate. ToS is clear.
We all know its been done in a household.
We all know that children play.
Time was things we knew that were not correct but allowed to exist were not spoken of out loud.
Ultimately you come on here and admit in writing your breaking the ToS its completely in ZOS hands what to do.
Yes that includes banning you.
Doubtful of it though, but if they did, how are you going to appeal it if you sit here typing away that you are in fact doing it?2 -
Noswell✭✭✭Reenlister wrote: »How are you going to appeal it if you sit here typing away that you are in fact doing it?
Because clearly no guilty person would ever admit to a crime he actually committed, any reasonable observer would conclude the statements were purely sarcastic in nature your honor.1 -
Charles_ASoul ShrivenZOS_TristanK wrote: »Hi there, @Charles_A. Sharing accounts is against our Terms of Service, so your sister would have to set up her own account and subscription in order to play.
No, I mean can she just set up the game on her computer, and then pay for a subscription fee? Or does she have to pay the $70 as well?
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Moonraker✭✭✭✭
You need the Standard game code to set up the account initially which gives the free 30 days, and requires subscription details though you can cancel before the subscription commences.ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Hi there, @Charles_A. Sharing accounts is against our Terms of Service, so your sister would have to set up her own account and subscription in order to play.
No, I mean can she just set up the game on her computer, and then pay for a subscription fee? Or does she have to pay the $70 as well?
So yes you still need to buy the game first to get the unique code. The game install itself can be copied etc. but it still requires an individual account.Edited by Moonraker on May 13, 2014 2:54AM0 -
PVT_Parts✭✭✭ebuntsb14_ESO wrote: »You know what I find funny, you have parents that bought the game (for a child, teen or younger), set up account using CC and the child is the one that plays the game (but not the parent/s).
Because the parent is the legal account holder, any child could not play according to the ToS. How many accounts would be closed if this was upheld by Zenimax.
There is a specific clause in the terms of service that allows one minor child to play an account in their parent's name. This is because a minor cannot legally agree to the terms of service.GossiTheDog wrote: »A minor isn't even allowed to play the game as the game is rated Mature.
Parent's permission overrides that.. just like you can watch a R rated movie in the theater with a parent.. sigh.. [btw, I wish they would add a "roll your eyes" emote ]
That can't be entirely true because said minor could not even access the ESO home page with or without parents permission. Besides, minors are not legally bound by any TOS so they can choose to break it. Besides, who cares, they can't play 2 characters at the same time. It would be fun to watch them fight over who gets to play and when. Survival of the fittest. Battle to the death.
P.S. ESO is overpriced, if you do chose to buy a second copy for your sister, make sure you purchase it from a 3rd party site. You can get it for as cheaply as $45. Check out the link at the bottom of twitch.tv/likeaspeed6 the G2A picture will get you a copy for $45.0 -
PVT_Parts✭✭✭Also, quoted from the TOS "By creating an Account, You agree that You do not own the Account, any user names created on the Account, any content stored or associated with an Account (such as digital and/or virtual assets, achievements, virtual currency, and other Downloadable Content), or related data associated with the Account.
Accounts are non-transferable under any circumstances. You have sole liability for all activities on Your Account and/or under Your user names. You may be held liable for losses incurred by ZeniMax or other third parties due to someone else using Your Account or password. Your Account or certain features of Your Account may be restricted, suspended, and/or terminated if someone else uses Your Account to engage in activity that violates these Terms of Service or is otherwise improper or illegal. You agree to notify ZeniMax immediately of any unauthorized use of Your Account, user name, password, or any other breach of security."
In the first paragraph it states that we DO NOT own the account. However, in the second paragraph, it is clearly stated "Your account" which indicated ownership. Otherwise it would be " sole liability for all activities on the Account and/or under the user name." Also, it says nothing about sharing a CD key, only an account. Email them the holes in their TOS and make them allow you to use the game key which you purchased, so it is yours, to create a second account.Edited by PVT_Parts on May 13, 2014 4:06AM1 -
PVT_Parts✭✭✭Some people will tell you that you can't share your CD key because of this passage. "You may not (a) distribute, publicly perform or display, sell, transmit, publish, edit, reproduce, sublicense, rent, lease, loan or otherwise transfer any Game, Software, and/or Content, including without limitation any access keys;" But it actually is not because you did not have to agree to any TOS to purchase the CD key meaning that you are not bound by this section. Also, it does not say "share" only transfer or transmit, which are not applicable because you wouldn't be transferring the game anywhere, only sharing it on a computer that already has it downloaded.0
