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Azureblight is good now :3

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I think i can push more high the tick of damage
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  • MrCray78
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    This is fine :blush:
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  • JonesFPS
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    Do you have a comparisson to the current version of it ?
  • MrCray78
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    JonesFPS wrote: »
    Do you have a comparisson to the current version of it ?

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  • JonesFPS
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    Thank you for posting your friends parse, but unfortunately that is not comparable.
  • Lykeion
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf
  • Major_Toughness
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    Lykeion wrote: »
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf

    But but but number bigger mean better.

    Also not what this "parse" is meant to show other than pushing for a big damage tick. Also using the new Merciless Charge which is no where near as good on live for Azureblight, Thrive In Chaos, and like 20 dummies.
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  • MrCray78
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    And the new scribing buff the proc of AB
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    Lykeion wrote: »
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf

    But but but number bigger mean better.

    Also not what this "parse" is meant to show other than pushing for a big damage tick. Also using the new Merciless Charge which is no where near as good on live for Azureblight, Thrive In Chaos, and like 20 dummies.

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  • xylena_lazarow
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    Dead in PvP where it was literally the only thing randoms could reliably use to counter ball groups. Sad.
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  • sarahthes
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    Lykeion wrote: »
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf

    Does this take into account that the average proc rate on live is about every 0.7-0.8s despite the 0.5s tooltip?
  • Skolandrikeb17_ESO
    sarahthes wrote: »
    Lykeion wrote: »
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf

    Does this take into account that the average proc rate on live is about every 0.7-0.8s despite the 0.5s tooltip?

    No, but it is also not clear that average tick would be around 1s with new set cd in a group content.
  • sarahthes
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    sarahthes wrote: »
    Lykeion wrote: »
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf

    Does this take into account that the average proc rate on live is about every 0.7-0.8s despite the 0.5s tooltip?

    No, but it is also not clear that average tick would be around 1s with new set cd in a group content.

    It needs testing but there are other math nerds who don't make YouTube videos who think it's gonna be ok, and that you stick 3-4 dds in it and the rest in runecarver and in some situations the damage goes up instead of down.
  • Skolandrikeb17_ESO
    sarahthes wrote: »
    sarahthes wrote: »
    Lykeion wrote: »
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf

    Does this take into account that the average proc rate on live is about every 0.7-0.8s despite the 0.5s tooltip?

    No, but it is also not clear that average tick would be around 1s with new set cd in a group content.

    It needs testing but there are other math nerds who don't make YouTube videos who think it's gonna be ok, and that you stick 3-4 dds in it and the rest in runecarver and in some situations the damage goes up instead of down.

    Yeah, general impression I got that it is unclear how to adjust for cd change.
  • sarahthes
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    sarahthes wrote: »
    sarahthes wrote: »
    Lykeion wrote: »
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    Quote chart made by Skinny, AB will be quite dead in U44 if no further changes are made. Doubling cd affects it more than the damage nerf

    Does this take into account that the average proc rate on live is about every 0.7-0.8s despite the 0.5s tooltip?

    No, but it is also not clear that average tick would be around 1s with new set cd in a group content.

    It needs testing but there are other math nerds who don't make YouTube videos who think it's gonna be ok, and that you stick 3-4 dds in it and the rest in runecarver and in some situations the damage goes up instead of down.

    Yeah, general impression I got that it is unclear how to adjust for cd change.

    I checked some 1 portal vs 2 portal bahsei logs and the 1 portal is already only ticking about close to every 1s because they just have fewer people in azure. So I'm thinking the super fast strats are likely to be less affected and the fast strats more affected; meanwhile the slow strats also won't be as affected. Guess we'll see in a few weeks.
  • Renato90085
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    Not sure if that helps
    I try my dsr reef HM build test 10 6m dummy set:ab/WM/Mora/VMA bow/WM flame staff
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    live:320-340k 600+ hit
    PTS240-260K 400+ hit

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    and i dont know why i low 3% crit /some stam i check it same build..(race/cp/stone/food/all thing)
  • Morvan
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    Nope, it's not even close to what it was before.
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  • Lykeion
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    and i dont know why i low 3% crit /some stam i check it same build..(race/cp/stone/food/all thing)

    The difference is that AB's minor bonus was replaced with weapon damage, and that's all. Thus you provided a pretty informative comparison to show the damage gap between AB in PTS and live, and I'd like to point out that most of the occasions where AB is used in real combat will only have 2 or 3 tough enemies consistently, which will cause this gap to be further widened.
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    The question isn't "does it out perform live", it's "does it outperform runecarver".
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    Why is ZOS so dead set on keeping ball groups indestructible?

    Why hasn't ZOS at least tried limiting HoT stacking to increase performance and level the playing field to curtail the superpowers of ball groups?

    It feels like ZOS couldn't care less about Cyrodiil PvP. And sadly, the lack of attention to the zone since 2018 proves this is almost certainly the case.

  • Skolandrikeb17_ESO
    Lykeion wrote: »
    and i dont know why i low 3% crit /some stam i check it same build..(race/cp/stone/food/all thing)

    The difference is that AB's minor bonus was replaced with weapon damage, and that's all. Thus you provided a pretty informative comparison to show the damage gap between AB in PTS and live, and I'd like to point out that most of the occasions where AB is used in real combat will only have 2 or 3 tough enemies consistently, which will cause this gap to be further widened.

    This is an ideal setup with large number of static/large hp targets that can be hit by single aoe cast that after 20s allows to create explosion after every 0.5s.
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    Set also gives 3 lines of wep/spell damage now vs crit, stam, and recovery, meaning the tooltip is going to scale better and your overall dps will too. I feel it's worth mentioning. The nerf in the 4-6 target range is probably closer to 40-30% vs Skinny's chart for 50-40% once you also consider the effective avg proc was higher than 0.5s to begin with.

    Seems reasonable to me. Although, can't defend the PVP side of it, it's completely dead there.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on October 10, 2024 3:59PM
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  • sarahthes
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    I think it needs to be tested with 1 person wearing it vs 2 people vs 3 people vs 4 people and check the proc timing via logging. It's possible OP wasn't getting explosions on cooldown and there's no way to tell that without a log.
  • Runefang
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    So you got all the procs on every target and didn't have to share? While having the optimum number of targets?

    Seems like a good real-raid situation comparison to me....
  • Antrox41
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    Dead in PvP where it was literally the only thing randoms could reliably use to counter ball groups. Sad.

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  • Durham
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    Why did they nerf Azerblight what is ZOS thinking? It litterally is only thing that will help a faction defeat a good ball group.
    Azer has a counter it spreading out! OMG.. Ball groups themselves are exploiting broken game mechanics to do what they do jeez.
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