1.0.8. No need even for a maintenance

Brizz · May 2014

Combat & Gameplay
Werewolf
Fixed an issue where werewolves could use Devour on the same corpse multiple times.....
..............................
Glad to see your only fixing the bugs that are of some benefit. Just leave the rest, I'm sure the players wont hate you for it.

It's clear that the company only cared about getting you to pay for the game, and not the games longevity, which is very disappointing.

Zepheric · May 2014

Brizz wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay
Werewolf
Fixed an issue where werewolves could use Devour on the same corpse multiple times.....
..............................
Glad to see your only fixing the bugs that are of some benefit. Just leave the rest, I'm sure the players wont hate you for it.

It's clear that the company only cared about getting you to pay for the game, and not the games longevity, which is very disappointing.

This is fundamentally untrue, this game is in its infancy and hasn't dropped the first major patch on us yet, which we all know will have several patches before and after that will address most of your issues. Patience, this is an MMO. I couldn't play WoW correctly for a year after it came out, and it still pulled its head out of its bum...for awhile.

Victor74 · May 2014

braxb14_ESO wrote: »

Yo, Admins, how about a farkin update...!? It's been nearly 5 hours now and there hasn't been an update to the freaking official topic @‌
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/96096/eso-maintenance-na-megaserver-5-12-14-8am-edt

You guys *REALLY* have got to work on your customer service. If you guys have been consistent in one thing, it's your terrible CS.

Actually they say in the post that they will update the site when the maintenance is finished. YOU REALLY have to work on your reading.

Brizz wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay
Werewolf
Fixed an issue where werewolves could use Devour on the same corpse multiple times.....
..............................
Glad to see your only fixing the bugs that are of some benefit. Just leave the rest, I'm sure the players wont hate you for it.

It's clear that the company only cared about getting you to pay for the game, and not the games longevity, which is very disappointing.

Yeah that's clear huh? Cause that would make SO much sense to try and put themselves out of work...... DUHHHHH.

braxb14_ESO · May 2014

*redacted*

Shillen · May 2014

Zepheric wrote: »

Brizz wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay
Werewolf
Fixed an issue where werewolves could use Devour on the same corpse multiple times.....
..............................
Glad to see your only fixing the bugs that are of some benefit. Just leave the rest, I'm sure the players wont hate you for it.

It's clear that the company only cared about getting you to pay for the game, and not the games longevity, which is very disappointing.

This is fundamentally untrue, this game is in its infancy and hasn't dropped the first major patch on us yet, which we all know will have several patches before and after that will address most of your issues. Patience, this is an MMO. I couldn't play WoW correctly for a year after it came out, and it still pulled its head out of its bum...for awhile.

And yet WoW gained new players like every month after release. I don't see that happening here.

UrQuan · May 2014

ralurielb16_ESO wrote: »

While his tone may have been rather forthright, he has a very valid point. As a Software Technical Lead/Product Owner myself I can get through an average of 15 bugs a day alone.

Um, no you can't. Not if you're doing any testing.

ralurielb16_ESO wrote: »

6 weeks with mainly nothing but quest fixes and loot nerfs due to botting is just not good enough. Yet they have the time to release more content when half the stuff they already have is bugged.

You do realize that it's almost definitely 2 separate teams right? The people creating the new content are going to be different from the people working on fixing bugs, and the people from one team probably aren't qualified to properly do the work of the people from the other team.

Zepheric · May 2014

Shillen wrote: »

Zepheric wrote: »

Brizz wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay
Werewolf
Fixed an issue where werewolves could use Devour on the same corpse multiple times.....
..............................
Glad to see your only fixing the bugs that are of some benefit. Just leave the rest, I'm sure the players wont hate you for it.

It's clear that the company only cared about getting you to pay for the game, and not the games longevity, which is very disappointing.

This is fundamentally untrue, this game is in its infancy and hasn't dropped the first major patch on us yet, which we all know will have several patches before and after that will address most of your issues. Patience, this is an MMO. I couldn't play WoW correctly for a year after it came out, and it still pulled its head out of its bum...for awhile.

And yet WoW gained new players like every month after release. I don't see that happening here.

Please, show me where the official subscription numbers for ESO are. Or do you just want to keep pulling stuff out of your bum.

Victor74 · May 2014

braxb14_ESO wrote: »

*redacted*

mlanuza192_ESO · May 2014

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Brizz · May 2014

Zepheric wrote: »

Brizz wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay
Werewolf
Fixed an issue where werewolves could use Devour on the same corpse multiple times.....
..............................
Glad to see your only fixing the bugs that are of some benefit. Just leave the rest, I'm sure the players wont hate you for it.

It's clear that the company only cared about getting you to pay for the game, and not the games longevity, which is very disappointing.

This is fundamentally untrue, this game is in its infancy and hasn't dropped the first major patch on us yet, which we all know will have several patches before and after that will address most of your issues. Patience, this is an MMO. I couldn't play WoW correctly for a year after it came out, and it still pulled its head out of its bum...for awhile.

We complain because we care. We want the game to last. Wow was one of the first of it's kind. Players DO NOT have the patience for half ass fixes that hinder gameplay rather then enhance it, and a company that keeps us in the dark as far as communication.

kirnmalidus · May 2014

Ur-Quan wrote: »

ralurielb16_ESO wrote: »

While his tone may have been rather forthright, he has a very valid point. As a Software Technical Lead/Product Owner myself I can get through an average of 15 bugs a day alone.

Um, no you can't. Not if you're doing any testing.

Also, it is somewhat silly to compare your software platform to ESOs. Are they on the same scale (meaning millions of clients and a massive cloud-hosted server back-end)? Has your software only been deployed post-beta for a month or so? Or has it been in the world for years (resulting in a more stable code base)?

wrlifeboil · May 2014

This is where I disagree with the maintenance bashers. Better for an mmo to undergo a 4 hour scheduled maintenance have than the game crash in the middle of the week then we find out we get a 2-3 day rollback.

Solyad · May 2014

I am in a very large, multi-game guild and we've already lost over 50% of the people that pre-purchased for early access and access to the Imperials. These aren't average, casual players and their attention/subs have already been lost. I'd hate to see this go the way of SWToR, but it sure is starting to look that way.

If they don't knock the ball out of the park with 1.1, this one will end up on the scrap heap of blown MMO opportunities along with AoC, Aion, and the aformentioned SWToR. Good luck Bethesda.

Saerydoth · May 2014

Sneak_Thief wrote: »

Just to clarify, the patch notes were released, yet will remain down for the backend fixes? (normally the patch notes released signify the downtime is over, thats why I ask).... Also, Do you think they will fix the node exploit, its remained through a couple patches and it would be nice to know it was getting fixed. Any admin care to comment?

It's possible. The spawning is probably something that can be changed server-side without a client patch. So it is very possible they are going to do something about the insta-spawning nodes.

butterfly442 · May 2014

wrlifeboil wrote: »

This is where I disagree with the maintenance bashers. Better for an mmo to undergo a 4 hour scheduled maintenance have than the game crash in the middle of the week then we find out we get a 2-3 day rollback.

Another stupid guy. This is not a scheduled maintenance. Its a day early. And they fixed diddly.

Expect another maint tomorrow. Even though they said there wouldn't be.

Jim_McMasterub17_ESO · May 2014

Zoe; you're losing people in droves,

...& even your policy of not-banning botter's accounts won't keep your numbers high enough in the next few months.

Victor74 · May 2014

Solyad wrote: »

I am in a very large, multi-game guild and we've already lost over 50% of the people that pre-purchased for early access and access to the Imperials. These aren't average, casual players and their attention/subs have already been lost. I'd hate to see this go the way of SWToR, but it sure is starting to look that way.

If they don't knock the ball out of the park with 1.1, this one will end up on the scrap heap of blown MMO opportunities along with AoC, Aion, and the aformentioned SWToR. Good luck Bethesda.

Thank god I don't change MMO's like I change my underwear......

Rides_Pale_Horse · May 2014

Woot....So they are fixing the Werewolf?! I mean they mention "Back end work" and my WW has been taking it up the back end now for weeks /howl

butterfly442 · May 2014

Jim_McMasterub17_ESO wrote: »

Zoe; you're losing people in droves,

...& even your policy of not-banning botter's accounts won't keep your numbers high enough in the next few months.

This guy makes an awesome point. They don't ban botters to keep numbers up for shareholders or some *** ***.

Fissh · May 2014

The Baby Bull says to Father Bull "Lets RUN down the hill and have sex with A cow!!"
The Father Bull says "Lets WALK down and sex them ALL"
Learn what this means. The self-entitled 'got to have it now' disease is spreading.

Brizz · May 2014

Rides_Pale_Horse wrote: »

Woot....So they are fixing the Werewolf?! I mean they mention "Back end work" and my WW has been taking it up the back end now for weeks /howl

Lol too good. With bugs fixed this game is fun and worth playing. Doubt they will fix WW anytime soon though, priorities are all ****ed up.

Darzil · May 2014

butterfly442 wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

This is where I disagree with the maintenance bashers. Better for an mmo to undergo a 4 hour scheduled maintenance have than the game crash in the middle of the week then we find out we get a 2-3 day rollback.

Another stupid guy. This is not a scheduled maintenance. Its a day early. And they fixed diddly.

Expect another maint tomorrow. Even though they said there wouldn't be.

This is the second week of regular maintenance on NA server on Monday. It is the scheduled maintenance.

kasain · May 2014

Solyad wrote: »

I am in a very large, multi-game guild and we've already lost over 50% of the people that pre-purchased for early access and access to the Imperials. These aren't average, casual players and their attention/subs have already been lost. I'd hate to see this go the way of SWToR, but it sure is starting to look that way.

If they don't knock the ball out of the park with 1.1, this one will end up on the scrap heap of blown MMO opportunities along with AoC, Aion, and the aformentioned SWToR. Good luck Bethesda.

Aion lasted for years. At least a year maybe two as pay to play, and it is still free to play and successful at that now. This game may not last one year P2P subscribe. It be very sad if they cancel the console version.

Attorneyatlawl · May 2014

NiRN wrote: »

Are people really still expecting magic patches that fix all the glaring troubles with ESO? Three words...

Free To Play

More like "Nickel And Dime" at that point

. Oh, and if you think the whining on the forums is bad now... here are three more words! "Pay to win."

r4v3nw0lf · May 2014

So your idea is no Maintenance? That is the stupidest idea I ever heard sorry. Every MMO I ever played over the years did this. You want the game to run right? You want the bots gone? You want the bugs fixed? How will this be done with no Maintenance? You must be a person that runs their car never checks the fluids and wonders why the engine seized up because no coolant or oil.

UrQuan · May 2014

butterfly442 wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

This is where I disagree with the maintenance bashers. Better for an mmo to undergo a 4 hour scheduled maintenance have than the game crash in the middle of the week then we find out we get a 2-3 day rollback.

Another stupid guy. This is not a scheduled maintenance. Its a day early. And they fixed diddly.

Expect another maint tomorrow. Even though they said there wouldn't be.

This is scheduled maintenance. They scheduled it in advance and put a notification up to let people know when it was going to happen. How exactly that makes it "not a scheduled maintenance" is beyond me.

Solyad · May 2014

Victor74 wrote: »

Solyad wrote: »

I am in a very large, multi-game guild and we've already lost over 50% of the people that pre-purchased for early access and access to the Imperials. These aren't average, casual players and their attention/subs have already been lost. I'd hate to see this go the way of SWToR, but it sure is starting to look that way.

If they don't knock the ball out of the park with 1.1, this one will end up on the scrap heap of blown MMO opportunities along with AoC, Aion, and the aformentioned SWToR. Good luck Bethesda.

Thank god I don't change MMO's like I change my underwear......

Sorry, people's free time is too important to waste on failed games.

wrlifeboil · May 2014

Solyad wrote: »

I am in a very large, multi-game guild and we've already lost over 50% of the people that pre-purchased for early access and access to the Imperials. These aren't average, casual players and their attention/subs have already been lost. I'd hate to see this go the way of SWToR, but it sure is starting to look that way.

If they don't knock the ball out of the park with 1.1, this one will end up on the scrap heap of blown MMO opportunities along with AoC, Aion, and the aformentioned SWToR. Good luck Bethesda.

I think it will be fewer than 70% of early access players who pay for this month's subscription by today. Today is when the last of the early access stragglers get charged the $14.99 if they haven't quit.

ZiRM · May 2014

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

More like "Nickel And Dime" at that point . Oh, and if you think the whining on the forums is bad now... here are three more words! "Pay to win."

The death blow.

Attorneyatlawl · May 2014

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Solyad wrote: »

I am in a very large, multi-game guild and we've already lost over 50% of the people that pre-purchased for early access and access to the Imperials. These aren't average, casual players and their attention/subs have already been lost. I'd hate to see this go the way of SWToR, but it sure is starting to look that way.

If they don't knock the ball out of the park with 1.1, this one will end up on the scrap heap of blown MMO opportunities along with AoC, Aion, and the aformentioned SWToR. Good luck Bethesda.

I think it will be fewer than 70% of early access players who pay for this month's subscription by today. Today is when the last of the early access stragglers get charged the $14.99 if they haven't quit.

I'd be ecstatic if I were them to only have a 30% initial month churn from box sales. That would be an amazing figure for a premium MMO service off of the initial launch.