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Empty Nodes?

Soloeus
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This is a small issue that has been ongoing since Beta. Every so often a resource node I approach, when I use it, will just vanish without giving me any resources.

Why?

PS. This has happened with every type of Alchemy, Blacksmith, Clothing, and Woodworking materials.

Within; Without.
  • seanolan
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    Yeah, this has happened numerous times to me (I notice nirnroot is especially prone to this, but it's not limited to nirnroot). I have been told it is related to it being harvested in another instance, but I do not think this makes much sense. You go through the motions of harvesting it (not like if a bot were getting it first; you have full animation of harvesting) and you get no pop-up to collect it. Frustrating to say the least
  • Fairydragon3
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    I've sen this, best way to tell is get the keen eye perk, the ones that work will glow. However i did find a few glowing spots with Nothing there in Greeshade. not even an object there's just glowing crap coming out of the ground
  • bobbyx
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    I've sen this, best way to tell is get the keen eye perk, the ones that work will glow. However i did find a few glowing spots with Nothing there in Greeshade. not even an object there's just glowing crap coming out of the ground

    I have had this problem as well with glowing spots. I have found that they are underground, or most of them anyways. If you step a little far away from it and looks straight down i can usually get the ones underground.
  • babylon
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    I've sen this, best way to tell is get the keen eye perk, the ones that work will glow. However i did find a few glowing spots with Nothing there in Greeshade. not even an object there's just glowing crap coming out of the ground
    Yeah you get the glow but there's nothing there to harvest.
  • KerinKor
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    Soloeus wrote: »
    This is a small issue that has been ongoing since Beta. Every so often a resource node I approach, when I use it, will just vanish without giving me any resources.

    Why?

    PS. This has happened with every type of Alchemy, Blacksmith, Clothing, and Woodworking materials.
    I asked this a while back and someone said it was because the node yielded no items, they alleged this is WAI: I never, ever saw it in beta or on initial release.

    Also, while the 'phased' harvester theory is true, I've seen it several times, what I think the OP is talking about, and what I'm referring to, is that the node disappears the moment I click the button to harvest, THAT VERY SECOND.

    This happens regularly if not very frequently, no way is this explicable by 'phased harvesting', the timing of my attempt harvest and the node's disappearance cannot be explained by a theory that says someone else harvested that node THAT VERY SECOND so many times in the course of a day.

    Edited by KerinKor on May 12, 2014 12:49PM
  • bobbyx
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    You know actually i had forgotten about that. I can only call this a bug. While questing or doing anything out in the world i have come across glowing items that just were not there. It would happen with every node, But after signing out and back in they would be there.
  • Soloeus
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    babylon wrote: »

    This.

    I have all of those glow perks maxed and I get the glow; just not the material.
    KerinKor wrote: »
    What I think the OP is talking about, and what I'm referring to, is that the node disappears the moment I click the button to harvest, THAT VERY SECOND.

    This happens regularly if not very frequently, no way is this explicable by 'phased harvesting', the timing of my attempt harvest and the node's disappearance cannot be explained by a theory that says someone else harvested that node THAT VERY SECOND so many times in the course of a day.

    Hit the nail on the head. This.

    And I used to just live with it, figuring it was something that would be fixed. I finally thought about how many cumulative ingredients I have lost over time. I wondered if anyone else was having this odd behavior.

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  • Fairydragon3
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    bobbyx wrote: »
    You know actually i had forgotten about that. I can only call this a bug. While questing or doing anything out in the world i have come across glowing items that just were not there. It would happen with every node, But after signing out and back in they would be there.

    it's an instance error then, like when some quest intractables are also in the ground. First suspected this when I started coming across these spots in succession
  • Khami
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    I have keen-eye on every craft and there are times when the node glows and I can't harvest it. This happens often in Greenshade in AD.

    It's annoying to click on a node and watch it disappear without getting anything.
  • Arabellan
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    I have went to collect a node and walked up to it and it disappeared before i got a chance to harvest it, or other times had a pop up saying someone else is using that and no one else was near me when this happened.
    Edited by Arabellan on May 12, 2014 3:01PM
  • Ashlynne
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    This happens a lot with the Heavy Sacks too. I notice this farming any type of "node"; ore, plants, wood, runes, heavy sacks.

    Has ZOS said anything about this? Since I've seen "little heads" of hacker farmers popping up from underground, I assume all the disappearing nodes are because of the hacker farmers taking the node from under the surface of the game. But then why would it go through the animation of me kneeling down to pick it? Or why is it clickable and then disappear the second the picking animation starts? How could it be that so often someone else is picking at EXACTLY the same time as I am? Because if someone else starts picking before me, it tells me someone else is using that node.

    Interesting... I hope ZOS looks at this thread.
    Edited by Ashlynne on May 12, 2014 3:16PM
  • Soloeus
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    I thought about the probability that Underground Hackers were nabbing the resource. I think that may contribute to some of it (and I have been robbed by underground hackers before), I think the real part is some kind of failure to spawn a resource inside of the node. Maybe some item tag is off on the loot table or something simple.

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  • babylon
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    Hey this might be precursor bug/companion bug to the empty containers that look full until you loot them. Seems to be the same bug really, just the resource nodes bug appeared first in game, the container bug is fairly new.
    Edited by babylon on May 12, 2014 3:21PM
  • Innocente
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    Welcome to the Hero Engine. This EXACT same set if issues existed when SWTOR launched. They eventually patched the game engine sufficiently to remove most of the node problems. But, it took them months to get to it as there were so many more seriously critical issues taking place.
  • Gilvoth
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    i see this alot also, and is annoying to think the bots now have learned the code for perminant invisibility, and being invisible even when they are interacting with the enviroment.


    especially when im in cryodiil. perhaps they need this in order to not be killed in cryodiil?
    Edited by Gilvoth on May 12, 2014 3:25PM
  • KerinKor
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    Arabellan wrote: »
    I have went to collect a node and walked up to it and it disappeared before i got a chance to harvest it, or had a pop up saying someone else is using that and no one else was near me when this happened.
    If it disappears only when you click on it to attempt to harvest it as a one-time event that's possible to be due to 'phased' harvesting, if it disappears repeatedly at just that moment I don't believe phasing is the answer .. if it disappears as you approach it before trying to harvest it that is more than likely phased harvesting, especially if you don't hear any sounds and don't get the 'in use' 'klunk' sound.
  • Soloeus
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    I have had moments where it does phase out as I approach.

    I have had many more moments where I do make it up to the node but get no sound or graphic; just "poof, gone." No cloud of smoke.

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  • axw_ESO
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    I have had this problem.

    I have also had an interesting opposite manifestation.

    Harvest. Do something related to a quest. Node re-appears instantly as if I phase changed. Note, this is not an instant respawn and could not be duplicated.
  • Niliu
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    Walk up, hit "E", vanishes.
    Walk up, hit "E", nothing happens, node still visible just non-interactable.
    Walk up to a glow, nothing there. Greenshade was the worst for it.

    Those are all the resource bugs I've seen. Seen a few bots but I always report em right away.
    Gimme back my sweetroll or so help me
  • awhecknum1ub17_ESO
    Wait bots can harvest from under the world? Omgoodness - please stop buying gold people. If you don't buy - the bots will go away.
  • Soloeus
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    Niliu wrote: »
    Walk up, hit "E", vanishes.
    Walk up, hit "E", nothing happens, node still visible just non-interactable.
    Walk up to a glow, nothing there. Greenshade was the worst for it.

    Those are all the resource bugs I've seen. Seen a few bots but I always report em right away.


    I have also found nodes, come to think of it, where I just couldn't interact with it. It glows, and has "E" but nothing happens when I press.

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