Thankyou.

I thought the title was sarcastic, glad to see that it isn't!

I am also a fan of the levelling curve. Most MMO games I have played, I quit long before reaching "max level" as it simply took too long and/or was too boring (my attention span with multiplayer games isn't that remarkable). I still haven't reached level 50 on any character let alone reached Veteran Rank, but I am having a blast taking it at my own pace. I don't feel like I am losing out on anything by taking my time either, but this is the first subscription-based MMO I've played since beta.

I will say this - there is an XP boost, only through using Rings of Mara while grouped with the person you 'married' in order to receive that bonus. Levelling is fairly quick without that bonus mind you, as you're not waiting on your partner to be online.

The ratio of inventory spaces to items is pretty out there too, but I've gotten used to it. All 7 of my characters have one bag upgrade minimum (two I usually play have 80 spaces each) and the alts only have one profession's items stored. Managing that's a bit of a nightmare though. This game does nothing to discourage my inner hoarder.

Experience boosts are implemented to a) allow new players coming to an existing game the chance to catch up to the rest of the population, and b) encourage veteran players to create alternative characters, as a means of additional content.

I have never seen new games include boosts, but wouldn't be unhappy if some time in the future we see it implemented in the low- to mid-level maps as events. That might be quite an attraction for players later this year who might be looking to transfer to console, or even for console players deciding they would like the power the PC gives them.


Edit: Xithian, I am glad it isn't in as a tooltip. I like learning through experimenting/discovery. I don't like being given all the information up front. And as old-school boring as it may sound to some, I am having so much fun building up my own crafting spreadsheets from what my characters learn in game.

So there we are. You can have your guides (made by people like me, I guess) and I still get to create my own resource from game. Win, win

Rings of Mara....15% with your married friend

Not all crafting was created equal. I have yet to try provisioning, but my experience with enchanting is equally painful I can assure you. You HAVE to store a lot of enchanting mats simply because you can only make a limited number of glyphs due to the rarity of the round rune. Additionally, you can NEVER make anything useful from enchanting.

I have 2 characters about to enter veteran ranks, each has crafted their own armor all the way. Their armor crafting levels are ~40, yet one of them is also an enchanter and is still painfully trudging through level 14, never having made a useful glyph in his life, yet the bulk of my shared bank is taken up with runes. He gets fed glyphs and runes from both himself and the other character, but the level bar almost imperceptibly moves each time he creates or grinds up a glyph.

My point isn't that enchanting sucks, although it does, but that because enchanting sucks so very bad, it's going to be a much more valuable craft than creating your own armor. For yourself, for friends, and for selling glyphs.

So try not to think about limited storage space as being ridiculous, try to think of it as being a greater challenge with greater reward. At least that's what I tell myself before I fall asleep at night.

Loxy37 wrote: »

Provisioning can be levelled in a matter of hours and is even easier than alchemy to level. The benefits of having it, even if you never put any points into it, far out way the negatives. Once its at 50, just keep what you need for what level you are at. If you put points into it, you can craft recipes that boost all 3 primary stats at once and I don't mean by 10 but a massive amount. People who don't use food, lose! People who say VR content is hard, usually are the ones that overlook food and drink!

Shhhh.... don't tell them.

Dopybks wrote: »

One thing I hated about other MMOs was this stupid implementation, further aiding players to rush through the content.

This is actually pretty dumb if you think about it. If you wanted to do the content, go ahead and do it. Nothing was stopping you.

Loxy37 wrote: »

Provisioning can be levelled in a matter of hours and is even easier than alchemy to level. The benefits of having it, even if you never put any points into it, far out way the negatives. Once its at 50, just keep what you need for what level you are at. If you put points into it, you can craft recipes that boost all 3 primary stats at once and I don't mean by 10 but a massive amount. People who don't use food, lose! People who say VR content is hard, usually are the ones that overlook food and drink!

RV content aint hard. Its boring and cheap

Xithian wrote: »

Gohlar wrote: »

Dopybks wrote: »

One thing I hated about other MMOs was this stupid implementation, further aiding players to rush through the content.

This is actually pretty dumb if you think about it. If you wanted to do the content, go ahead and do it. Nothing was stopping you.

People have been taught to just shoot for bigger numbers in RPG games for years now. If something is not actively improving your character most people see it as a waste of time. This includes, to varying degrees: reading up on lore, reading quest text, sightseeing, killing anything that does not give a reward, interacting with other players outside of asking for help... Have I left anything out?

ESO does a fairly good job of encouraging people to stop and smell the roses. The encouragement is needed because people have been trained for years to rush to endgame. So no, it is not "dumb"; it is part of a well thought out attempt to get players to enjoy all of the content that the developers spent time making, much like the lack of floating character names and the minimal UI.

I guess I understand that different people like different things and forcing everyone down the same path is not a recipe for success. Seems you guys aren't content to enjoy yourselves, you worry about how others choose to play.

To get back on topic, I believe they madeiuyy limited inventory space to get players to make choices in the short term. Is it more valuable for me to buy more space to store my crap for my alts, or to get my horse? For me the bank space was more important, since I harvest as I travel. This may mean my immediate level progression through questing has been temporarily stunted, but I am less likely to miss those nodes.

Gohlar wrote: »

Don't you see? You are both demanding the carrot. Nothing was stopping you from doing the content, you just don't want others to be able to use a catch up mechanic that wasn't stopping anyone from doing anything.

As I said before, people got to level 50 in a few days. What catch up mechanic is needed exactly?


As to the "least choice" thing, I'm assuming you're referring to PvP's lackings. That's a fair enough point. PvE-wise I'm not sure what else you do for XP in these other major MMOs you reference. Quest or kill. That pretty much sums up PvE for every MMO I've played, except for a few like EVE that don't even use XP.