It's not something I've ever come close to, so I'm a bit confused. Maybe not mash the button too many times?

This has happened to me many times while playing on PC with a controller and using the Gamepad UI.

I don't have this problem when getting pledges because I use an addon that automatically accepts the quests. But sometimes when just trying to get into the npc's inventory I might button mash, or get hit with some lag, and the next thing I know I just accidentally bought/sold/deposited something that I wasn't trying to do. It's a good thing there's a "Buy Back" tab in vendors, but unfortunately there isn't a "Sell Back" tab...

I really get tired of having to choose the dialog options when using the store/banker/etc., and I wish we could just skip the dialog and get right into their inventory, because the dialog options is just a waste of time IMO.

Also a confirmation to buy the costly style page that's located conveniently at the top of the pledge vendors would be a nice thing to have, to prevent accidental purchase when using the Gamepad UI.

syberfut wrote: »

I lost count the many times I wasted the 5 (or more) keys because I was in a rush to pick up the pledge quests. With people waiting on you and you spamming the conversations to pick up the quests, it is too easy to grab the quest and immediately open the coffer store and purchase something that you can't sell back. At the very least, a simple (hopefully) change, would be to perhaps end the NPC interaction after picking up the quest? Since there is a decent delay between pressing the interact button to actually starting a conversion is long enough to realize one should stop spamming the interact key.

Also, don't get me started on the whole key shenanigans and wasting 250 keys on trying to get that new Blind Shoulder style page.. shenanigans, I tell you! >.<

If you are on PC then make use of NTak Dialog as this add on make it possible to assign key for dialogue options and other feature that might help you to pick correct line for interaction with NPC.

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info2290-NTakDialog.html

There are also several add on that automatically will pick up quest for Pledge and deliver quest including taking reward when you have finished Pledge. Then there are add on that in general will provide option for auto repeat (start and finish quest) for daily quest starter including Pledge NPC interaction if you want to use that instead.

From that link to NTak Dialog you should be able to find more add on that might help you with Pledge and to manage Undaunted Keys (or avoid to make use of them by accident). There is search field on that page and there is grouped categories which should help you to find what you are looking for.

So all in all you shouldn't have an issue to fast pick up Daily Pledge quest from NPC (as long as there is no larger change on how game work; game patches or change in API might cause issues might need authors of add on to make changes in how add on work, if it is possible).

With NTak Dialog you also have better control for which option in dialogue you pick as you don' t need to move mouse cursor to exact position on screen to pick what you want to do. I make use of number keys as that are already assigned for my use of weapons, but you can pick what ever key bind you find is better for your set up and doesn't add to the total limit of key bind that is 100 right now. There are add on that can get past that, but then it is locally stored key binds.

Look in Controls>Add On section for key bind that are related to Add on.

To the trolls, I hope you don't have to rush to do anything and make mistakes. If you do, let us know so the rest of us can troll too hahaha!

@RexyCat, thank you for the suggestion of using addons. I had an addon that would do that, but after Gold Road, it would either cause my client to crash or I would have to fight the addon so I can actually get to the quest. That was a bizarre behavior change, but it got super painful and I just deleted it. I myself have over 160 addons running, and amazingly well I might add. I agree that minor changes to behaviors in the game/UI could have far reaching changes. Sigh, yeah I suppose the only recourse is another addon. Thank you for the suggestion, I'll go check it out.

syberfut wrote: »

I lost count the many times I wasted the 5 (or more) keys because I was in a rush to pick up the pledge quests.

I have never done this. I'm sorry that keeps happening to you but that's just carelessness.

"I was in a rush.."

That pretty much says it there.

I don't play the game with others so I don't end up in a situation of "oh my God I need to pick up quests in the next five seconds", but I do find the placement of some regularly-used aspects of the game rather silly and, seemingly, based purely around the desire to keep towns looking busy.

There is surely a better way to deliver undaunted pledges than to force players to run all the way down the hill in Wayrest and back again, for example. To return the quests and pick up the rewards, perhaps, but purely to pick them up it feels daft and, indeed, it *looks* daft to other players. High-frequency, high-volume quest givers ought surely to be right next to wayshrines, at a minimum.

Pick up the quests first then look for a group to run them with, then there will be no reason to rush.

I’ve rushed to pick up quests before, like maybe we get a fourth person that requires someone changing roles and I need to grab quests on the character I’ve switched to, not that I wouldn’t be given time but I try to be considerate!
Even so, I don’t see how it would be possible to accidentally spend keys — it would require opening the store portion, selecting a box to buy, purchase, confirm purchase. Maybe a lag issue if you spam E or whatever is accept/next before the server can catch up?

Yeah I've done this but only once. Anyone with a fast tempo is susceptible to this.

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

EF321 wrote: »

It takes fixed number of presses to get pledge, act a little bit more intelligently?

Your response to bad UI design is to "act more intelligently"?

Response to mindlessly mashing buttons.

Yeah, I get that. The lag that I get, say you need 3 E-key presses to accept the quest, the conversation will get stuck in middle and sit there like a bump on the log. You'd end up having to button mash one or two more times to get what you need done. So after enough of that kind of shenanigans, you get frustrated and button mash.

Regardless, I got the addon to do it now. Burns my eyebrows haha