Nobody is forcing you to make your house public?

ClowdyAllDay wrote: »

I value privacy! Get off my lawn and out my house!

I understand this is a joke but the number of people I've seen ACTUALLY making this exact argument seriously baffles me!

Oznog666 wrote: »

But now we know your name and we will visit all your houses hehe. Thousands and thousands of us xD.

In your house, touching your things with gubby Nord finger, sneezing in your kitchens with our snotty High Elf noses, dropping our heavy Orc weapons on your hardwood floor and knocking tea tables over with our Argonian tails.

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

They will be the same as existing permissions, so if they can interact with doors they can turn lights on and off (if they can reach them) but they can't move objects without decorator perms, which they said in the stream they would NOT have available.

Too late walker! This one already left this one's magnificent paw prints all around your carpet (and may have accidentally scratched a couple of cushions...) By the way, and completely unrelated to this incident, you are out of milk.

Sarannah wrote: »

Reginald_leBlem wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

They will be the same as existing permissions, so if they can interact with doors they can turn lights on and off (if they can reach them) but they can't move objects without decorator perms, which they said in the stream they would NOT have available.

Thank you, for the answer!
I just wish I could set my lights on "stuck" mode or something, so visitors couldn't change them while still being able to use all the amenities inside the house. Lighting a property well is important, and can influence how visitors value your house.

I think, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not at all positive, but I think they mentioned allowing people to still interact with crafting tables in limited visitor with the update. So, you could use that setting. Just make sure any doors you have up are open. That way they mostly use the amenities without being able to turn off lights, open doors, turn off music boxes, etc.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Reginald_leBlem wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

They will be the same as existing permissions, so if they can interact with doors they can turn lights on and off (if they can reach them) but they can't move objects without decorator perms, which they said in the stream they would NOT have available.

Thank you, for the answer!
I just wish I could set my lights on "stuck" mode or something, so visitors couldn't change them while still being able to use all the amenities inside the house. Lighting a property well is important, and can influence how visitors value your house.

I think, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not at all positive, but I think they mentioned allowing people to still interact with crafting tables in limited visitor with the update. So, you could use that setting. Just make sure any doors you have up are open. That way they mostly use the amenities without being able to turn off lights, open doors, turn off music boxes, etc.

That would be nice, as one of the guild houses I often use for crafting my master writs just happens to have stuff that can be turned off and on within clicking range of the crafting tables. And since some of it seems to be partially buried items with lighting, I'm never sure if it's supposed to be off or on. And no, I'm not going to tell somebody I don't normally interact with "Hey, why don't you move this and that," as I have no business telling anybody what they should or shouldn't be doing with their build.

Let me give an example (for any devs that may be reading) of how this problem manifests itself.

In one of my builds, I have four Moons-Blessed Ceremonial Pools cobbled together as part of a statue base. Now, when four of those items are close together, it puts off a mildly blinding amount of light, which is not the look I am going for in this instance. So what I did was turn these off (they are interactable), and then placed four more that were turned on in the exact same location, but sunk them into the ground under the first four, so the effect was still visible... but more muted. Voilà! There's the look I am after.

The problem now is that when someone hovers their mouse over the visible pools, they get the prompt to turn them on. And sometimes, if they're like me and don't want to be thought of as "that guy" that trolls people by turning their stuff off, might just turn everything back on before they leave, just in case. And I've gone back to that house and found those pools turned on by well-meaning folks, and it's dismaying because, well, how many other people visited before I got there and though, "Oh wow, this is pretty cool but what was he thinking..... it's so bright... as now there are not four, but eight moon pools putting out an ungodly amount of glow in one place.

Ideally, there should be a setting for each individual item. "Visitor interactable? Y/N." Then people can chat with your Augur of the Obscure, without being able to, or being unable to avoid turning off the light you placed under it for that perfect look.

freespirit wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Reginald_leBlem wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

Sarannah wrote: »

Does anyone know what type of restrictions visitors have with this new feature?

Because I don't mind visitors using my outfitting/dye station, crafting stations, mundus stones, combat dummies, vampire amenities, etc. But I would mind if they could move stuff around, or turn the lights on/off. Any word on the restrictions visitors have?

They will be the same as existing permissions, so if they can interact with doors they can turn lights on and off (if they can reach them) but they can't move objects without decorator perms, which they said in the stream they would NOT have available.

Thank you, for the answer!
I just wish I could set my lights on "stuck" mode or something, so visitors couldn't change them while still being able to use all the amenities inside the house. Lighting a property well is important, and can influence how visitors value your house.

I think, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not at all positive, but I think they mentioned allowing people to still interact with crafting tables in limited visitor with the update. So, you could use that setting. Just make sure any doors you have up are open. That way they mostly use the amenities without being able to turn off lights, open doors, turn off music boxes, etc.

This is an issue for me and I'm sure for others too "limited visitor" would be my go to setting BUT in several of my builds the doors I have added are important and it would spoil the intention of the story to leave them open, however as others have mentioned I don't want my lighting messed with!!

Good job I've chosen not to interact with this new feature.

The patch notes for the PTS update that landed yesterday says that Grandmaster Crafting Tables will be usable even with Limited Visitor set.