PVP is completely broken

DTStormfox · June 8

Unkillable sorcs, unkillable arcanists...

Who in their mind thought it was a good idea to buff sorcs and arcanists even more? Sorc, for example, was already very powerful in PVP. But no, lets give their shield a massive heal that scales with max health, so we can have 60k health sorcs run around that are unkillable...

The EU Ravenwatch, for example, is completely abandoned now, because there are literally unkillable players in the server. Nobody wants to play with or against them anymore.

LaintalAy · June 9

DTStormfox wrote: »

Unkillable sorcs, unkillable arcanists...

Who in their mind thought it was a good idea to buff sorcs and arcanists even more? Sorc, for example, was already very powerful in PVP. But no, lets give their shield a massive heal that scales with max health, so we can have 60k health sorcs run around that are unkillable...

The EU Ravenwatch, for example, is completely abandoned now, because there are literally unkillable players in the server. Nobody wants to play with or against them anymore.

With reference to your title, I can't tell if PvP is broken or not. I don't choose to play that part of the game.

With reference to the content of your post, I read many posts where players ask for harder content. Now you have it.

Olen_Mikko · June 9

Unkillable troll builds aren't the issue really. You can just choose to ignore them.

2-3 ballgroups running simultaneously and ZOS doing nothing to hinder them, is the real issue.

moderatelyfatman · June 9

Ravenwatch has been abandoned for a long time now outside of primetime.

Desiato · June 9

Honestly, it's the worst pvp I've ever played.

They like to give pvp lip service in patch notes sometimes, but the reality is that 99% of combat changes are made with pve goals in mind. Particularly in terms of raising the floor and lowering the ceiling. They don't even really care about pve balance. Their goal is to elevate certain kinds of players so content is more accessible to them.

There's no quick and easy fix IMO. It's completely butchered.

I love AvA and want to play it, but when I think about actually doing it, I get flashbacks of things like 10 minute 1v1s, HoT tank ball groups, troll sieging troll tanks, sorcs, 40k hp healbot wardens, etc and literally get sick to my stomach.

It's basically pvp for people who don't really like pvp because they can't stand dying.

xylena_lazarow · June 9

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Unkillable troll builds aren't the issue really.

Those "unkillable" Sorcs aren't troll tanks, they're teleporting ranged nuke DDs. Ward is a problem.

Tsuriel · June 9

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Unkillable troll builds aren't the issue really. You can just choose to ignore them.

2-3 ballgroups running simultaneously and ZOS doing nothing to hinder them, is the real issue.

Pretty much. Ballgroups keep progressively ruining PvP with each patch and chapter released.

And to think ESO was first introduced and advertised as a PvP game, one could truly say that they've more or less abandoned that sphere completely.

Desiato · June 9

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Unkillable troll builds aren't the issue really. You can just choose to ignore them.

2-3 ballgroups running simultaneously and ZOS doing nothing to hinder them, is the real issue.

Not if you actually want to engage in the alliance war because troll tanks will sometimes troll siege and flag keeps so they can draw players to them so they can engage in their goal of not dying or killing anything while fighting with others in a pvp game......

The same applies to ball groups. Sure, you can ignore them if you don't care about the map at all. But then, why are you playing? Either to pug stomp or stalemate against other decent players most of the time.

worst. pvp. ever.

ProudMary · June 9

Tsuriel wrote: »

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Unkillable troll builds aren't the issue really. You can just choose to ignore them.

2-3 ballgroups running simultaneously and ZOS doing nothing to hinder them, is the real issue.

Pretty much. Ballgroups keep progressively ruining PvP with each patch and chapter released.

And to think ESO was first introduced and advertised as a PvP game, one could truly say that they've more or less abandoned that sphere completely.

Yep. ZOS has done nothing but lower the population caps in Cyrodiil and move those server resources to other parts of the game for the last 5 years or so. Today's population caps are literally 10% of what they were originally. They keep adding content and spreading the game thinner and thinner over the same server resources. Now we have massive problems with disconnects, lag etc.

silky_soft · June 9

Just play bg, get a knockback from the new skills. Knock them off the ledges. Contingency is pretty good, activates on any cost including breakfree and Dodge.

jaws343 · June 10

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Unkillable troll builds aren't the issue really.

Those "unkillable" Sorcs aren't troll tanks, they're teleporting ranged nuke DDs. Ward is a problem.

As the op mentioned 60k hp.. a 60k hp sorc isn't nuking anything. You pretty much have to dump every single thing into HP to do that. I have a 65k HP 1 bar build for Archive and the only reason it even functions is a mix of oakensoul/empower and focused efforts. Outside of that it struggles killing overland enemies in a reasonable time.