I much preferred the old animation, but when I actually play Templar and do content, I don't notice the difference in animations at all. Too much going on.

I did a search for "jabs animation". More than 20 threads popped up about this issue dating back years.

Don't get your hopes up that ZOS will revert this abomination of an animation, but yeah, we should keep bringing up the issue anyway.

reazea wrote: »

It's important that we keep bringing this topic up. We should keep reminding ZOS how badly they botched the new jabs animations until they fix it. There was no reason to change the animation in the first place. They could have changed the timing without changing the animation even easier than what they did.

Thinking back there has been a lot of bugs and inexplicable, apparently random changes made since U35 that make it seem like ZOS has had a lot of turnover in the last couple years and the people making the majority of these changes are new to the game or don't play it regularly. The totally lore breaking use of a night hollow stave in place of a templars spear of light was just the beginning of a long chain of "what the heck were they thinking" changes since U35.

Templars have a vampiric shovel
Nightblades get permanently irradiated red
Necros can’t DPS their way out of a graveyard

This is why I only DPS on my Arcanist any more…

TaSheen wrote: »

When the devs draw a line in the sand....

It's not changing.

I don't mind the Flurry animation changes, because it now is appropriate for ALL weapon types. Before I thought it was dumb if you were wielding an axe or mace... that you would be 'stabbing' people with it instead of slashing. At least now it was changed to a slashing animation, which fits all weapon types.

Jabs... yeah, I much preferred the old animation. However, I don't mind the new one. As Templar was my main for years, and seeing many players had negative reaction, I expected to hate the new animation. However, after playing it for awhile I honestly don't even notice anymore.

Yet, for people to quit playing Templar over the animation change tells me they really didn't enjoy Templar all that much in the first place. I stepped away from Templar because I wanted to play a different class, not because of an animation change or the much needed nerf to Sweeps. Even as a Templar main I knew that Sweeps was OP and had been for years... after all... many Streamers affectionately referred to Templar as 'Godplar' and it was mainly due to Sweeps. Yet, even with the nerfs that some people still claim made Sweeps "useless"... Streamers are back ranking Templar as S or S+ tier and once again utilizing Sweeps in the rotation. So I think the players claiming that Templar is bad, are just doing so because of their animosity towards the new animation- and not an actual result of Sweeps being bad. Just my thoughts.

VoidCommander wrote: »

The difficulty with reverting it back to the old animation is because that would mean bringing it back to hitting 4 times instead of 3. They changed it to 3 so they could properly balance damage increasing sets (Like Draugrkin or the reworked Maelstrom Greatsword) without having Templar Jabs severely overperforming compared to other classes. With it only hitting 3 times, it can be compared to a force pulse. And if you really want the advantage, Flurry still hits 4 times but is available to all classes so everyone can use it (with the tradeoff of being single target). While I'm upset they nerfed the number of hits, it is much more balanced compared to the other options.

Couldn’t we have the old jabs animation but adjusted to remove one strike? Or add some clause to make it not effected by those sets.

barney2525 wrote: »

First point. It's not broken. There's nothing to fix.
Second. It's personal preference. What I like may not be the same as what you like. And vice versa.
Third. It's on screen for .5 seconds per use. itsthereitsgone. itsthereitsgone.

I don't even notice it anymore.

I preferred the previous animation. But if people are Qutting the entire game because of this change, they had more issues than they admit to.

IMHO

People choose what class they play in some part based on how they like the look and feel of the abilities. If ZOS wanted to provide more options with how skills look, via additional morphs or skill customization, I’d be all for that. I’m not a fan of how many Dragonknight skills look, but they’ve been that way since before I joined the game, so it would not be fair of me to lobby for them to be changed.

I do agree that a cast ability not cared for is less egregious than a disliked permanent effect (like the irradiated red nightblade), but still, it may influence what skills you use or even what class one plays more on, although certainly to some people it may not matter much.

ADarklore wrote: »

I don't mind the Flurry animation changes, because it now is appropriate for ALL weapon types. Before I thought it was dumb if you were wielding an axe or mace... that you would be 'stabbing' people with it instead of slashing. At least now it was changed to a slashing animation, which fits all weapon types.

Jabs... yeah, I much preferred the old animation. However, I don't mind the new one. As Templar was my main for years, and seeing many players had negative reaction, I expected to hate the new animation. However, after playing it for awhile I honestly don't even notice anymore.

Yet, for people to quit playing Templar over the animation change tells me they really didn't enjoy Templar all that much in the first place. I stepped away from Templar because I wanted to play a different class, not because of an animation change or the much needed nerf to Sweeps. Even as a Templar main I knew that Sweeps was OP and had been for years... after all... many Streamers affectionately referred to Templar as 'Godplar' and it was mainly due to Sweeps. Yet, even with the nerfs that some people still claim made Sweeps "useless"... Streamers are back ranking Templar as S or S+ tier and once again utilizing Sweeps in the rotation. So I think the players claiming that Templar is bad, are just doing so because of their animosity towards the new animation- and not an actual result of Sweeps being bad. Just my thoughts.

The only times templars are ranked s by streamers is for duels. And that's only in 3-4 damage sets. Often, this is when templar is a ranged spec with meteor + javelin as well (very oppressive combo in duels).
In all other pvp situations, templar is definitely not s tier.

The current jabs animation is really bad. It should be changed. Specifically, the jabs animation should be changed to match the other spear animations that templars use.

danno8 wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

I don't mind the Flurry animation changes

Yet, for people to quit playing Templar over the animation change tells me they really didn't enjoy Templar all that much in the first place.

I recall when they changed the style for a particular Redguard Armour several years ago and there was an uproar over the changes. The developers actually addressed the topic on a live show and even though it wasn't a very satisfying answer, people did move on from it.

Not only did they address the Redguard armor changes, they promised to never do such a thing again, unless something was "wrong". I suppose we could argue they say "bad animation" as one of the wrong reasons, but nothing was "wrong" with the jabs animation for years and years. It wasn't broken. They just decided to update it. And not only did they update the actual animation, but also the graphics. They absolutely could have done one without the other and left the original shard of light model.

IMO, both changes (the animation itself and the new model recycled vamp staff) are way more "wrong" than they used to be.

I mained a templar prior to u35. I haven't played her since the HORRIBLE JABS ANIMATION went live with u35.

The animation itself is terrible and the fact the templar wields a nighthollow staff for the animation is salt on the wound.

PLEASE revert the animation so templar mains can play their templars again!!