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Are building homes out of bounds bannable?
FelisCatus
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I've seen some people do this, and it looks really cool - I haven't done it out of fear. Is it bannable? Is it allowed?
When I say out of bounds: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
Edited by FelisCatus on March 16, 2024 8:11PM When I say out of bounds: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
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Xoz✭✭✭Doubt it given housing is instanced and doesn't affect the overland. Seems harmlessPS4 & PC
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Foxtrot39✭✭✭✭Its litteraly just furnishing
Rule of thumb is if it doesn't affect combat or economy its ok to do it
As stated above houses are instanced and therefor nobody but those in it can see it2 -
Finedaible✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't know much about housing, but I have heard of some players getting temporarily banned by the automated bots for the sort of house 'slides' which automatically move characters without user input. Probably has something to do with their cheat detection algorithms if I had to guess.1 -
Avran_Sylt✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The only reason I could think of is due to some sort of edge-case reason that I can't think of.
Why would housing be bann-able, if it's a mitgitagatble reason?Edited by Avran_Sylt on March 15, 2024 2:11AM0 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I make many of my favourite builds in areas not actually in the house....
The bigger Crown houses frequently have huge areas you can utilise before you hit their outer limits, some of the original base game gold purchasable houses too(but not many of those in comparison).
Daggerfall Overlook you can build way beyond the far wall on the left of the entrance or at a lower level via the trapdoor in the basement but mind the slaughterfish!
Pariah's Pinnacle, on the left of the entrance you can build a long way out too, I shut all but a couple of rooms off there and built out over the edge.
Grand Psijic Villa and Grand Topal Island are two more you can really explore the limits on.
All these houses do have invisible walls at the very edge of them, sometimes those walls are huge distances away, to my mind if you can place and retrieve items in an area without using the retrieval tab then those areas are fair game to be built on!!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
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valenwood_vegan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If this was bannable, pretty much anyone who ever furnished a house would be banned... there's not even really a reliable way to tell if you're placing a furnishing out of bounds, as the invisible walls and ceiling aren't marked.
But yeah as has been mentioned, housing is instanced and doesn't affect the game outside of the house - if it lets you place a furnishing somewhere, go for it! The whole point is to see what you can create. I have regularly placed furnishings outside of the "bounds" in which your character can travel around a house... partially buried in a floor or a wall... above a ceiling... way up in the sky... out in the ocean with the slaughterfish. Never any issues.Edited by valenwood_vegan on March 15, 2024 5:40AM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Finedaible wrote: »I don't know much about housing, but I have heard of some players getting temporarily banned by the automated bots for the sort of house 'slides' which automatically move characters without user input. Probably has something to do with their cheat detection algorithms if I had to guess.
That was for breaking the “speed limit”.
No, you won’t be banned, nor any action taken against you as you aren’t doing anything wrong but decorating your own instance — it’s not like you’re going over property lines or anything.
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tsaescishoeshiner✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭FelisCatus wrote: »No when I say out of bounds I mean: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
Lol remove this!! Some of us are trying to build here while it lasts.
I wouldn't worry about being banned, but I definitely wouldn't post about out-of-bounds content anywhere highly visible. That's what word-of-mouth is for.PC-NA
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FelisCatus wrote: »No when I say out of bounds I mean: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
I think as long as you didn't do anything weird to get there has been the general thing? Like usually they just patch stuff?0 -
valenwood_vegan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Oh LOL, yes that's more out of bounds than I was thinking. I personally wouldn't, but I'm not much of a risk taker... especially these days after some of the ban first, investigate later incidents lately. But I mean it's housing right, it's probably ok and will just get patched eventually?Edited by valenwood_vegan on March 15, 2024 10:47PM0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Actually, if I were you @FelisCatus (great name btw!) I'd pm @StabbityDoom (long time housing enthusiast and streamer) and see if she can help you get this figured out.______________________________________________________
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FelisCatus✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »FelisCatus wrote: »No when I say out of bounds I mean: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
I think as long as you didn't do anything weird to get there has been the general thing? Like usually they just patch stuff?
It's not my house, but a friend's. He told me there's a hole in one of the waterfalls of Erstwhile and if you build a ramp up to it you can access out of bounds world space in which you can still build but it looks barren. Good if you need flat land but I don't want to build something there myself or even try visit it and get banned.Edited by FelisCatus on March 16, 2024 8:20PM0 -
FelisCatus✭✭✭✭✭tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »FelisCatus wrote: »No when I say out of bounds I mean: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
Lol remove this!! Some of us are trying to build here while it lasts.
I wouldn't worry about being banned, but I definitely wouldn't post about out-of-bounds content anywhere highly visible. That's what word-of-mouth is for.
Well don't worry it's not my house and I haven't said the owner's name.0 -
SpiritKitten✭✭✭✭✭So for instance, if you want to plant a tree on the other side of the wall around your yard, that's totally fine! As for the example you are giving? I wouldn't risk it simply because the furnishings might go POOF! when you reload the instance.3 -
FelisCatus✭✭✭✭✭SpiritKitten wrote: »So for instance, if you want to plant a tree on the other side of the wall around your yard, that's totally fine! As for the example you are giving? I wouldn't risk it simply because the furnishings might go POOF! when you reload the instance.
It doesn't go poof because this friend has had it there for a long time. I know many people who push trees out of bounds that's fine because their player isn't going out of bounds but you can image it gets more sticky when the player is actively going out of bounds and building a house. I feel like ZOS would dislike that more. If they did patch it, it would likely keep your furniture there you'd just have to use retrieve menu in house editing mode.1 -
DreamyLu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hmmm... For me, it's simple logic applying: houses are instances, meaning with clear defined limits. If you can put something somewhere the normal way, it means you're within boundaries, otherwise, you couldn't. You're safe.
Now if you use a special trick to force put an item out of the instance limits, that could be a reason for banning. But I don't think that it's even technically possible.I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message... PC/NA1 -
Northwold✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't see how there'd be an issue as such BUT in the past ZOS have patched errors in walls (I think it was Earthtear Cavern where some rocks were tidied up and people who had built right into the nooks found their creations buried in solid rock). Is that a ban? No. But it is a risk of losing access to everything you've built with no warning.4 -
ghastley✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't see how there'd be an issue as such BUT in the past ZOS have patched errors in walls (I think it was Earthtear Cavern where some rocks were tidied up and people who had built right into the nooks found their creations buried in solid rock). Is that a ban? No. But it is a risk of losing access to everything you've built with no warning.
You would still be able to extract your furnishings via the recall option of the editor. It's easy enough to push a painting behind a wall by accident, so that was built in early on.Edited by ghastley on March 16, 2024 9:01PM1 -
SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I thought they gave us empty space around some houses so the player could build out on them. I figured if we can walk on it we can build on it.PCNA1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FelisCatus wrote: »tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »FelisCatus wrote: »No when I say out of bounds I mean: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
Lol remove this!! Some of us are trying to build here while it lasts.
I wouldn't worry about being banned, but I definitely wouldn't post about out-of-bounds content anywhere highly visible. That's what word-of-mouth is for.
Well don't worry it's not my house and I haven't said the owner's name.
No, but if it should happen to be considered an exploit then it's you who has just described it. I doubt it's a problem, but...0 -
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✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »I thought they gave us empty space around some houses so the player could build out on them. I figured if we can walk on it we can build on it.
If I’m understanding this right, this is an unintentional hole left somewhere around the waterfall that is allowing players to go out into the Great Nothingness Beyond the Boundary of Tamrielic Time and Space. I was once knocked there through a wall in a dungeon by a mob, and was excited and ran around searching for things, until I suddenly started falling and kept falling until a support person got me out.
Edited to add: It sure would be interesting to be out there with the powers of a builder at your disposal!Edited by Elvenheart on March 16, 2024 7:26PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Elvenheart wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I thought they gave us empty space around some houses so the player could build out on them. I figured if we can walk on it we can build on it.
If I’m understanding this right, this is an unintentional hole left somewhere around the waterfall that is allowing players to go out into the Great Nothingness Beyond the Boundary of Tamrielic Time and Space.
So this thread is about one particular spot in one particular house? Not about housing in general?PCNA0 -
FelisCatus✭✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »Elvenheart wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I thought they gave us empty space around some houses so the player could build out on them. I figured if we can walk on it we can build on it.
If I’m understanding this right, this is an unintentional hole left somewhere around the waterfall that is allowing players to go out into the Great Nothingness Beyond the Boundary of Tamrielic Time and Space.
So this thread is about one particular spot in one particular house? Not about housing in general?
There might be other houses with it, who knows?0 -
FelisCatus✭✭✭✭✭FelisCatus wrote: »tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »FelisCatus wrote: »No when I say out of bounds I mean: https://imgur.com/a/kB9OxEn
Lol remove this!! Some of us are trying to build here while it lasts.
I wouldn't worry about being banned, but I definitely wouldn't post about out-of-bounds content anywhere highly visible. That's what word-of-mouth is for.
Well don't worry it's not my house and I haven't said the owner's name.
No, but if it should happen to be considered an exploit then it's you who has just described it. I doubt it's a problem, but...
I have knowledge of it true because a friend sent me a screenshot but I haven't exploited it or used it myself out of fear.Edited by FelisCatus on March 16, 2024 8:13PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I have no idea what house this is, but I wouldn't build out on any space we can only reach by using a bug.Edited by SilverBride on March 16, 2024 8:20PMPCNA3
