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Thanks for destroying the most valuable item in the game :(
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NoTimeToWait✭✭✭✭✭ElderOfTamriel wrote: »ElderOfTamriel wrote: »Ayalockheart wrote: »If you're a collector, then isn't it better when the drop rate increases. That way you can collect even more of them?!
Unless you were selling them, in which case the sympathy oasis has succumbed to global warming
It seems they weren't interested in the item itself but only it's rarity.
I don't get it either, but some people want to have items others can't afford simply because those others can't afford.
Doesn't matter if the item itself is a banner or an apple. As long as it's expensive, it's interesting.
Tells a lot about the people behind the personas if you ask me. I find it sad 🙂
just because you cant understand the point in collecting you dont have to put us collectors in a bad light by stating how greedy and selfish we are... thats basically what you said
it's a furnishing.
people want furnishings to decorate their homes with.
it shouldn't cost 10+ times more than the most expensive home, 3.8 million.
i like collecting! i love getting all the event outfit collectibles and things like every year's jubilee cake, however i would not get upset if zos allowed people to get jubilee cakes from years they weren't able to attend.
collect for yourself because you want it yourself, but please not because you want it exclusively for you or a select few lucky/extremely rich people.
they are doing that as far as ive seen. but ppl wont get the full cake as the original but just a plate with 1 piece on it. which i also think is cool. but just destroying rare items like that isnt right if you ask me. if they wanted to make the banner available to everyone they probably shouldve let it drop bound as other stuff is like the books or banners in Scriveners Hall. still unsure if this is intentional or not tho. opened a support case
It doesn't look like ZOS is going to remove the cakes (I think they have added a new full cake too for this anniversary). They just simply added the cake pieces which is great, really0 -
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✭SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »ElderOfTamriel wrote: »Ayalockheart wrote: »There a Fine line between “rare” and “nearly impossible to drop”….
is it considered rare if ppl can drop it within 10min 3 TIMES IN A ROW?? F*CK NO! i never said i wouldve had anything against a small increase of the drop rate, but SMALL not by 99,9%... can you imagine how anyone have to feel who wasted weeks, probably months trying to get that rare gem bcs they really wanted or paid 100M+ in order to have something exclusive to put in their room and now it drops more often than golden mats on daily crafting writs? you were probably jealous on ppl who had it and bcs you were not able to get.
weird accusation to make.
I never tried to get the banner because I thought it looked butt ugly. The value of a furnishing (for me) lies in how well it looks in my homes. If it doesn't look good? Then it is worthless to me. It doesn't matter what value OTHER people place on it, I have my own desires and wants to look after.
To be accused of "being jealous" all because I think it's too stupid looking to farm is, indeed, a weird accusation to make.6 -
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✭As a collector wouldn't increased drop rates be better for you, so you can collect them in a timely manner?5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Drop rates on cosmetic items should either be fixed immediately after release, or not at all.
Disagree. The game should always be open to fixes for problem parts of it. And high priority issues should be the thing focused on immediately after release. Part of playing an online game is knowing that things can change. I don't think anyone would have been mad if the drop had gotten a modest increase so that the item was actually available to sell.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This banner was never valuable. There is nothing about it that represents it having great worth. The only reason it was selling for so much was because it was a rare drop, but the item itself isn't anything special.PCNA12 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »As a collector wouldn't increased drop rates be better for you, so you can collect them in a timely manner?
If it had gotten a modest increase, yes, that would be a good thing. But it went from "for all practical purposes this item does not exist" to "extremely common" with the patch. So, kind of defeats the point of adding it to a rare items collection if the item isn't rare.
Also, something that I think people are overlooking is that this not being documented meant that the OP couldn't make an informed decision about their purchase. It's not like say the dungeon motifs. Because I know the anniversary events exist, I also know those items don't tend to hold onto their rarity. So, if I see a page I'm missing for high price just before the anniversary hits, then I know not buy it. And if I just want it now and don't care about potential changes in price and buy it then and there? Well, that's on me, because the information was available to me. I chose not to look into it.
Anyone looking into the Sixth House Banner prior to OP's thread would see that it was extremely rare. Now that word sounds like it's spreading, others will be in a position to make better choices.
But none of that applies to the OP, who was not given the information by ZOS needed to make an informed decision about their purchase. As a result they lost a LOT of coin. I'd hope that even those that think it should be common should at least agree that this change should be in the patch notes.Edited by spartaxoxo on March 12, 2024 5:06PM4 -
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ElderOfTamriel✭✭✭✭NoTimeToWait wrote: »ElderOfTamriel wrote: »ElderOfTamriel wrote: »Ayalockheart wrote: »If you're a collector, then isn't it better when the drop rate increases. That way you can collect even more of them?!
Unless you were selling them, in which case the sympathy oasis has succumbed to global warming
It seems they weren't interested in the item itself but only it's rarity.
I don't get it either, but some people want to have items others can't afford simply because those others can't afford.
Doesn't matter if the item itself is a banner or an apple. As long as it's expensive, it's interesting.
Tells a lot about the people behind the personas if you ask me. I find it sad 🙂
just because you cant understand the point in collecting you dont have to put us collectors in a bad light by stating how greedy and selfish we are... thats basically what you said
it's a furnishing.
people want furnishings to decorate their homes with.
it shouldn't cost 10+ times more than the most expensive home, 3.8 million.
i like collecting! i love getting all the event outfit collectibles and things like every year's jubilee cake, however i would not get upset if zos allowed people to get jubilee cakes from years they weren't able to attend.
collect for yourself because you want it yourself, but please not because you want it exclusively for you or a select few lucky/extremely rich people.
they are doing that as far as ive seen. but ppl wont get the full cake as the original but just a plate with 1 piece on it. which i also think is cool. but just destroying rare items like that isnt right if you ask me. if they wanted to make the banner available to everyone they probably shouldve let it drop bound as other stuff is like the books or banners in Scriveners Hall. still unsure if this is intentional or not tho. opened a support case
It doesn't look like ZOS is going to remove the cakes (I think they have added a new full cake too for this anniversary). They just simply added the cake pieces which is great, really
i mean ppl wont get the old full cakes, just pieces of it
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Rare Item Collector by heart
in-game: @ElderOfTamriel
Painting Gallery, containing every single painting, U44 (Doomchar Plateau): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel',90)
Clockwork Planetarium (Coldharbour Surreal Estate): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 47)
Magetower with Library (Amayalake Lodge): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 43)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »
50 million gold, to brag about that to the handful of other players (or less) who visit yer house!2 -
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✭✭✭The OP is relentless in his pursuit of what he considers to be rare.
Elder, if I could offer one small piece of advice, when someone says they are not willing to part with an item, move on and leave that person alone!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!3 -
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✭✭✭I know this doesn't sound nice, but I unironically thought that some people in here were trolling. I didn't know there's people that play this game just to collect rare items.
To me it seems a good change that something simple as a banner furniture is now more available to people that want to actually use it in their house. Too bad about your gold though. I'm afraid it's a good practice to always triple check when spending that amount of gold...
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ElderOfTamriel✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Avran_Sylt wrote: »As a collector wouldn't increased drop rates be better for you, so you can collect them in a timely manner?
If it had gotten a modest increase, yes, that would be a good thing. But it went from "for all practical purposes this item does not exist" to "extremely common" with the patch. So, kind of defeats the point of adding it to a rare items collection if the item isn't rare.
Also, something that I think people are overlooking is that this not being documented meant that the OP couldn't make an informed decision about their purchase. It's not like say the dungeon motifs. Because I know the anniversary events exist, I also know those items don't tend to hold onto their rarity. So, if I see a page I'm missing for high price just before the anniversary hits, then I know not buy it. And if I just want it now and don't care about potential changes in price and buy it then and there? Well, that's on me, because the information was available to me. I chose not to look into it.
Anyone looking into the Sixth House Banner prior to OP's thread would see that it was extremely rare. Now that word sounds like it's spreading, others will be in a position to make better choices.
But none of that applies to the OP, who was not given the information by ZOS needed to make an informed decision about their purchase. As a result they lost a LOT of coin. I'd hope that even those that think it should be common should at least agree that this change should be in the patch notes.
seems like atleast someone understands me :') i dont care if the banner looks ugly to you (i definitelly seen better furnishings, not questionable) or if you think it should drop more often. i decided i would want to buy it bcs it was one of the last items missing in my collection but i had no information from ZOS that youll find it as sand at the beach now... not hoping to get anything back tho ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⡴⠶⠶⣤⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀PC-EU
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⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⢀⢀⠀⠀⠘⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀~~~~~~~~~~~⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣷⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣴⠾⣿⣿⡷⠿⠛⠙⢹⣏⣉⣉⡿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⢸⢿⡟⠛⠛⡆⠀⠀"𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔴𝔥𝔢𝔢𝔩 𝔬𝔣 𝔱𝔦𝔪𝔢 𝔱𝔲𝔯𝔫𝔰, ⠀⠈⢧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⣠⡾⠻⣫⣾⠟⠉⠀⠀⠀⣘⣛⣿⡿⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠘⣧⠀⠘⠀⡇⠀⠀⢷⠀⠀⠀⠀ 𝔞𝔤𝔢𝔰 𝔠𝔬𝔪𝔢 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔭𝔞𝔰𝔰,⠀⠀ ⠀⠸⡆⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⢀⡴⠛⣧⡾⠛⠋⠀⠀⠀⣶⣚⣿⠛⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠷⣤⣴⣧⠴⠶⢿⡇⠀⠀𝔩𝔢𝔞𝔳𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔦𝔢𝔰 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔱⠀⠀ ⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⢠⣿⢻⣾⠏⠀⠀ ⣀⣠⣾⠿⠷⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝔟𝔢𝔠𝔬𝔪𝔢 𝔩𝔢𝔤𝔢𝔫𝔡𝔰."⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⢹⡄⠀⠸⡛⠓⢿⣙⡟⠁⠀⢤⣄⣴⡿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀~~~~~~~~~~⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠺⡇⠀⠀⣯⣽⣾⣿⣵⣖⡒⠚⠋⠈⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⢀⡇⠀⠈⣇⢸⡿⠋⣹⡇⣹⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢾⣇⠀⠀⣸⣿⡿⠓⠈⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠚⢛⣿⠿⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣤⣾⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠰⡏⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠁⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠐⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠤⣿⡥⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠻⣤⣤⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢳⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢳⡄⠀⠀⣀⡴⠖⠛⢦⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⢠⡟⠉⠛⠻⣷⢦⣤⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣠⣿⠷⠛⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⢹⡟⠛⠛⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣇⠀⠀⢹⡄⠀⢀⡇⠀⠀⢸⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⡄⠀⠀⠳⣄⣼⣁⣀⣀⣼⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣼⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠉⠁⠁⡝⠀⠀⢀⣠⣤⠤⠶⠒⠒⠒⠒⠶⠤⣤⣀⣀⣀⣠⡾⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
Rare Item Collector by heart
in-game: @ElderOfTamriel
Painting Gallery, containing every single painting, U44 (Doomchar Plateau): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel',90)
Clockwork Planetarium (Coldharbour Surreal Estate): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 47)
Magetower with Library (Amayalake Lodge): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 43)2 -
ElderOfTamriel✭✭✭✭freespirit wrote: »The OP is relentless in his pursuit of what he considers to be rare.
Elder, if I could offer one small piece of advice, when someone says they are not willing to part with an item, move on and leave that person alone!
yeah i had to learn that, thanks bly
but that has nothing to do with the matter here ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⡴⠶⠶⣤⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀PC-EU
⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⠛⠉⠛⢿⡿⠿⠶⠶⢤⣤⣠⣠⡤⠤⠶⠚⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣀⣤⣶⣄⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⣸⠃⠀⠀⠀⠘⢧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⡞⣿⠛⢻⣍⣿⣯⡿⢿⡷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⢀⢀⠀⠀⠘⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀~~~~~~~~~~~⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣷⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣴⠾⣿⣿⡷⠿⠛⠙⢹⣏⣉⣉⡿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⣿⠀⠀⢸⢿⡟⠛⠛⡆⠀⠀"𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔴𝔥𝔢𝔢𝔩 𝔬𝔣 𝔱𝔦𝔪𝔢 𝔱𝔲𝔯𝔫𝔰, ⠀⠈⢧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⣠⡾⠻⣫⣾⠟⠉⠀⠀⠀⣘⣛⣿⡿⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠘⣧⠀⠘⠀⡇⠀⠀⢷⠀⠀⠀⠀ 𝔞𝔤𝔢𝔰 𝔠𝔬𝔪𝔢 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔭𝔞𝔰𝔰,⠀⠀ ⠀⠸⡆⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⢀⡴⠛⣧⡾⠛⠋⠀⠀⠀⣶⣚⣿⠛⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠷⣤⣴⣧⠴⠶⢿⡇⠀⠀𝔩𝔢𝔞𝔳𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔦𝔢𝔰 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔱⠀⠀ ⠀⣿⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⢠⣿⢻⣾⠏⠀⠀ ⣀⣠⣾⠿⠷⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝔟𝔢𝔠𝔬𝔪𝔢 𝔩𝔢𝔤𝔢𝔫𝔡𝔰."⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⢹⡄⠀⠸⡛⠓⢿⣙⡟⠁⠀⢤⣄⣴⡿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀~~~~~~~~~~⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠺⡇⠀⠀⣯⣽⣾⣿⣵⣖⡒⠚⠋⠈⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
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Rare Item Collector by heart
in-game: @ElderOfTamriel
Painting Gallery, containing every single painting, U44 (Doomchar Plateau): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel',90)
Clockwork Planetarium (Coldharbour Surreal Estate): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 47)
Magetower with Library (Amayalake Lodge): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 43)0 -
NoTimeToWait✭✭✭✭✭ElderOfTamriel wrote: »NoTimeToWait wrote: »ElderOfTamriel wrote: »ElderOfTamriel wrote: »Ayalockheart wrote: »If you're a collector, then isn't it better when the drop rate increases. That way you can collect even more of them?!
Unless you were selling them, in which case the sympathy oasis has succumbed to global warming
It seems they weren't interested in the item itself but only it's rarity.
I don't get it either, but some people want to have items others can't afford simply because those others can't afford.
Doesn't matter if the item itself is a banner or an apple. As long as it's expensive, it's interesting.
Tells a lot about the people behind the personas if you ask me. I find it sad 🙂
just because you cant understand the point in collecting you dont have to put us collectors in a bad light by stating how greedy and selfish we are... thats basically what you said
it's a furnishing.
people want furnishings to decorate their homes with.
it shouldn't cost 10+ times more than the most expensive home, 3.8 million.
i like collecting! i love getting all the event outfit collectibles and things like every year's jubilee cake, however i would not get upset if zos allowed people to get jubilee cakes from years they weren't able to attend.
collect for yourself because you want it yourself, but please not because you want it exclusively for you or a select few lucky/extremely rich people.
they are doing that as far as ive seen. but ppl wont get the full cake as the original but just a plate with 1 piece on it. which i also think is cool. but just destroying rare items like that isnt right if you ask me. if they wanted to make the banner available to everyone they probably shouldve let it drop bound as other stuff is like the books or banners in Scriveners Hall. still unsure if this is intentional or not tho. opened a support case
It doesn't look like ZOS is going to remove the cakes (I think they have added a new full cake too for this anniversary). They just simply added the cake pieces which is great, really
i mean ppl wont get the old full cakes, just pieces of it
Maybe, maybe not. Personally, I don't think it's the case, since ZOS is adding a full cake this year too and it would be unreasonable to remove the previous onesSpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »
50 million gold, to brag about that to the handful of other players (or less) who visit yer house!
I think there are some people who see a significant roleplay value in this item (especially since we didn't quite get an opportunity to join the 6th House in TES 3) hence the increased value of the otherwise unlikeable item, but I doubt those people would complain about improved drop ratesEdited by NoTimeToWait on March 12, 2024 5:32PM0 -
ElderOfTamriel✭✭✭✭I know this doesn't sound nice, but I unironically thought that some people in here were trolling. I didn't know there's people that play this game just to collect rare items.
To me it seems a good change that something simple as a banner furniture is now more available to people that want to actually use it in their house. Too bad about your gold though. I'm afraid it's a good practice to always triple check when spending that amount of gold...
yeah i spent most of the time in the game to collect things for almost the full last year. i did that for ingame paintings too and built a gallery out of it so ppl can have a look at it
Sure, i did check when i bought it. Before the patch there were 2 banners sold for 140M something and 200M. After the patch there was another one for 113M and that one i bought for 50M, which would actually be a very good deal if they hadnt [Snip] the droprate i even read the patch notes to be sure the didnt increased the drop rate... to bad they just didnt find it important enough to mention 
[Edited for bashing and profanity bypass]Edited by ZOS_Volpe on March 12, 2024 7:54PM⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⡴⠶⠶⣤⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀PC-EU
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Rare Item Collector by heart
in-game: @ElderOfTamriel
Painting Gallery, containing every single painting, U44 (Doomchar Plateau): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel',90)
Clockwork Planetarium (Coldharbour Surreal Estate): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 47)
Magetower with Library (Amayalake Lodge): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 43)4 -
Mathius_Mordred✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is nothing in this game that is valuable, nothing has intrinsic value, when the game shuts its doors you will be left with nothing except memories, videos and screenshots. Game items are somewhat ephemeral and their ingame value can decrease with one update overnight, this happens in all MMOs, if you are holding on to something 'valuable' then sell it before a major update.Skyrim Red Shirts. Join us at https://skyrimredshirts.co.ukJoin Skyrim Red Shirts. Free trader. We welcome all, from new players to Vets. A mature drama-free social group enjoying PVE questing, PvP, Dungeons, trials and arenas. Web, FB Group & Discord. Guild Hall, trial dummy, crafting, transmutation, banker & merchant. You may invite your friends. No requirements10 -
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✭✭✭ElderOfTamriel wrote: »freespirit wrote: »The OP is relentless in his pursuit of what he considers to be rare.
Elder, if I could offer one small piece of advice, when someone says they are not willing to part with an item, move on and leave that person alone!
yeah i had to learn that, thanks bly but that has nothing to do with the matter here
I think it is relevent tbh, if you weren't so fixated on owning rare items, you may have thought twice before buying something you obviously couldn't afford!
You say you borrowed 30mill to buy the banner? The banner was for your own use? How were you going to pay that gold back?
Surely however you intended to pay the gold back, hasn't been affected by the changed drop rate, if the banner was for your own use?
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!7 -
loosej✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Disagree. The game should always be open to fixes for problem parts of it. And high priority issues should be the thing focused on immediately after release. Part of playing an online game is knowing that things can change. I don't think anyone would have been mad if the drop had gotten a modest increase so that the item was actually available to sell.
Agree that the game should always be open to fixes for problem parts of it. Disagree that the drop rate of a single furnishing item is a problem part of the game. It wasn't a problem before, but changing it has made it into one.Consistency: It's only a virtue if you're not a screwup (source: despair.com)2 -
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✭Thanks to all that answered. I....can't imagine someone upset over a cosmetic, but hey....I guess some folks find them valuable 0 -
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✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Avran_Sylt wrote: »As a collector wouldn't increased drop rates be better for you, so you can collect them in a timely manner?
If it had gotten a modest increase, yes, that would be a good thing. But it went from "for all practical purposes this item does not exist" to "extremely common" with the patch. So, kind of defeats the point of adding it to a rare items collection if the item isn't rare.
Also, something that I think people are overlooking is that this not being documented meant that the OP couldn't make an informed decision about their purchase. It's not like say the dungeon motifs. Because I know the anniversary events exist, I also know those items don't tend to hold onto their rarity. So, if I see a page I'm missing for high price just before the anniversary hits, then I know not buy it. And if I just want it now and don't care about potential changes in price and buy it then and there? Well, that's on me, because the information was available to me. I chose not to look into it.
Anyone looking into the Sixth House Banner prior to OP's thread would see that it was extremely rare. Now that word sounds like it's spreading, others will be in a position to make better choices.
But none of that applies to the OP, who was not given the information by ZOS needed to make an informed decision about their purchase. As a result they lost a LOT of coin. I'd hope that even those that think it should be common should at least agree that this change should be in the patch notes.
I’d have more sympathy if the dude spent time searching for it themself, didn’t jump on a perceived steal of a price, on an item dependent simply on RNG and not skill, wholly to get satisfaction of an exclusionary nature: look what I have and you don’t.
Edited by Avran_Sylt on March 12, 2024 7:05PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Disagree. The game should always be open to fixes for problem parts of it. And high priority issues should be the thing focused on immediately after release. Part of playing an online game is knowing that things can change. I don't think anyone would have been mad if the drop had gotten a modest increase so that the item was actually available to sell.
Agree that the game should always be open to fixes for problem parts of it. Disagree that the drop rate of a single furnishing item is a problem part of the game. It wasn't a problem before, but changing it has made it into one.
It was a problem before. People could spend months farming it and not get it, and some drops are so rare that there are occasionally questions that pop us asking if the item even actually exists.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Avran_Sylt wrote: »As a collector wouldn't increased drop rates be better for you, so you can collect them in a timely manner?
If it had gotten a modest increase, yes, that would be a good thing. But it went from "for all practical purposes this item does not exist" to "extremely common" with the patch. So, kind of defeats the point of adding it to a rare items collection if the item isn't rare.
Also, something that I think people are overlooking is that this not being documented meant that the OP couldn't make an informed decision about their purchase. It's not like say the dungeon motifs. Because I know the anniversary events exist, I also know those items don't tend to hold onto their rarity. So, if I see a page I'm missing for high price just before the anniversary hits, then I know not buy it. And if I just want it now and don't care about potential changes in price and buy it then and there? Well, that's on me, because the information was available to me. I chose not to look into it.
Anyone looking into the Sixth House Banner prior to OP's thread would see that it was extremely rare. Now that word sounds like it's spreading, others will be in a position to make better choices.
But none of that applies to the OP, who was not given the information by ZOS needed to make an informed decision about their purchase. As a result they lost a LOT of coin. I'd hope that even those that think it should be common should at least agree that this change should be in the patch notes.
I’d have more sympathy if the dude spent time searching for it themself, didn’t jump on a perceived steal of a price, on an item dependent simply on RNG and not skill, wholly to get satisfaction of an exclusionary nature: look what I have and you don’t.
He likely did spend time searching for it himself. This item was bugged. Someone could easily spend weeks or months farming it and not getting it. So it's understandable he'd want to buy it if he saw someone listing it for a good deal.3 -
moo_2021✭✭✭✭✭What we need is a financial tool like futures, or a community insurance offered to traders by collecting a small fee from every members and compensate them when the market price of something drops sharply.
And whoever provides the service would have to hire another for insurance fraud investigation and prevention. Sounds pretty cool yes? We could have a full replica of modern financial institution in ESO!2 -
j3z3b3l✭✭✭Something else will become rare, I’d not worry about it if your intent is to find something rare and then sell it for a crazy amount of cash. Find something different is my suggestion. Things constantly change in the game and with that you can either embrace change or be annoyed by it. Also for the true collectors out there, price is not a concern, nor how you came about it, it’s the completed collection that is a rarity.Edited by j3z3b3l on March 12, 2024 7:23PMJ3zdaz XBOX One NA1 -
Aerin✭✭✭If "This item was bugged" and someone is selling it for 50M++ because it's very hard to get due to a game bug, is it fair for other players to accept this bug exploitation in selling? No. The seller is inflating the price for something entirely unacceptable, solely because the item was bugged. Isn't this considered exploiting a bug on the part of the seller, and against the Code of Conduct?3
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If "This item was bugged" and someone is selling it for 50M++ because it's very hard to get due to a game bug, is it fair for other players to accept this bug exploitation in selling? No. The seller is inflating the price for something entirely unacceptable, solely because the item was bugged. Isn't this considered exploiting a bug on the part of the seller, and against the Code of Conduct?
When I say bugged, I was being facetious. The devs a while back said that leads that were dropping so little as to be practically non-existent were a bug and increased the drop rates significantly. So, I was just applying that same logic to this item since it's also been patched to be more common after practically not existing for years. Sorry I wasn't more clear.Edited by spartaxoxo on March 12, 2024 7:25PM0 -
Braffin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If "This item was bugged" and someone is selling it for 50M++ because it's very hard to get due to a game bug, is it fair for other players to accept this bug exploitation in selling? No. The seller is inflating the price for something entirely unacceptable, solely because the item was bugged. Isn't this considered exploiting a bug on the part of the seller, and against the Code of Conduct?
Nope, we all may sell any item we possess for any amount of coin we desire (within engine limitations of course).
It's for the possible buyer to decide if said item is worth the coin.
That's why nobody but the buyer is to blame (if they want to blame someone) and the whole situation is totally unrelated to drop chances.
Zos isn't selling these banners in guild stores after all. Only players do.Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. It's not that hard.1
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