[SUGGESTION] Please let us buy more storage space for items

StihlReign · March 2024

Storage costs money. Storage is allocated space somewhere on some server connected to some database that says here's what you have.

Perhaps we'd get further if we asked Zos to increase the cost of ESO+ because we want more storage and we're willing to pay for it (I am). Let's say multiple levels of ESO+ tailored to high or increasingly higher storage. Give us 3 options.

The sticker book is nice, it would be awesome if we could recall (use) 50 sets of armor, our choice of which ones, in the tempers and enchants we upgrade to, so long as we've discovered them. A check box if you will.

Equipping from the sticker book, instead of inventory could free up a lot of space in inventory (the database management and internal storage side could increase for Zos on the back-end, I don't know).

The sticker book would (could) also integrate nicely with the Armory System, and I could see it offering much better utility for imagining/designing/storing builds if they were connected - again, a feature that could require more database management (storage) but less carried storage.

There are also the items that cannot be deposited in a bank and so they become part of permanent carried storage i.e. - Sigil of Imperial Retreat cannot be banked; however, a Keep Recall Stone can. (When IC was released, we lived in the tunnels, and I carried min 10 Sigils) - Now I visit every few years, maybe.

Some cleanup of items like this would be nice.

SpacemanSpiff1 · March 2024

as a recovering hoarder, more storage slots will just lead to more hoarding. it will never be enough.

StihlReign · March 2024

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

as a recovering hoarder, more storage slots will just lead to more hoarding. it will never be enough.

But that would be OK...if there's an option to charge accordingly.

SilverBride · March 2024

I have a very hard time understanding why anyone keeps anything they don't have a current use for. I hear how they don't want to get rid of things they may need "some day" but has "some day" ever come? If it had then some of this stuff would have been used, but instead it just keeps piling up.

Then look at multiple houses full of furnishings. If each house has 700 slots and the player has 3 of them full, which many do, that is 2100 furnishings that will never be used.

The last thing we need is to add more storage so more things can pile up and bog down the servers.

Tandor · March 2024

StihlReign wrote: »

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

as a recovering hoarder, more storage slots will just lead to more hoarding. it will never be enough.

But that would be OK...if there's an option to charge accordingly.

It wouldn't be ok at all, because of the impact on everyone's performance.

Necrotech_Master · March 2024

Sakiri wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

I don't even know how to *get* the rest of the chests. I only have the one from leveling.

And this account dates to 2013. I guess I don't feel the need to hold on to 20 million gear sets and stuff. Always interesting to see what people hold on to though.

You can buy the other chests (some with 60 item limit, some with 30) from Rolis Hlaalu using master writ vouchers.

Ah. I'll never have them then, I don't do master writs. I don't have the traits for the higher payout ones, and I refuse to do a million 2 voucher alchemy writs to get them.

theres 3 ways to get them

crowns (not recommended)
writ vouchers
tel var

you do get 1 free 30 slot storage chest from level up rewards, but you can only claim it on the first character that reaches the level after they implemented the level up rewards

i personally did the tel var route lol

Dragonnord · March 2024

ZOS already explained that more storage space won't do anything.

If you have 200 free slots you'll use 200, if you have 500 free slots you'll use 500, if you ave 1000 you'll use 1000, if you have 10000 you'll use 10000 and so.

Like: "Oh! I have 10000 slots free. I'll collect every single piece of gear and set in the game!"

One month later: "ZOS, please add more storage. It's not enough."

Haenk · March 2024

MoonPile wrote: »

What the heck are people holding on to?

Furniture. It's too expensive to keep re-crafting or re-buying. A Furnishing Bag akin to Craft Bag is a popular request.

I'd giva that a 10/10. I have a couple of houses now simply dedicated to just dropping housing items. As I don't want to sell or trash the housing items, they have to go somewhere. So these houses have piles of junk in them, and I can not be bothered to collect all that stuff back into my bank or inventory. That's thousands of items...

SilverBride · March 2024

A few tips on managing inventory:

Accept that the game is not designed for players to collect one of everything that is available. Just like we wouldn't go into the mall and buy one of everything, we can't do that in game, either.
Take only 5 minutes a day to clear out a handful of items. Spending a lot of time can be daunting and takes away from things the player would rather be doing, so limit the time spent on this.
Start with items that can be quickly deconstructed or sold and don't overthink. If the player has duplicates let half of those go first.
Don't buy stacks of everything the Lux Furnishing vendor sells unless it's an item that the player frequently uses in their builds.
Realize that by removing the things that aren't as vital it frees up space for items that are the most important to the player.

kargen27 · March 2024

MoonPile wrote: »

What the heck are people holding on to?

Furniture. It's too expensive to keep re-crafting or re-buying. A Furnishing Bag akin to Craft Bag is a popular request.

Lykeion wrote: »

This was the most frequently mentioned issue in the interviews. the ZOs explained this as a limitation imposed by performance issues and promised to improve it in the future (in a less direct way). I believe the U41 siege equipment is one of the solutions and it looks good. Next I look forward to seeing my set items slots issue resolved as well

Interesting... more storage chests would be a performance issue in a way that all the ways we currently get around it (alts, mail, houses, etc.) are not? Asking in earnest, I have no idea.

Players with storage issues will always have storage issues. If they were given additional chests for storage they wouldn't move items from alts and all that. They would just fill the chests up with more stuff. Players aren't asking for different inventory spaces they are asking for more inventory slots.

SilverBride · March 2024

Haenk wrote: »

I have a couple of houses now simply dedicated to just dropping housing items. As I don't want to sell or trash the housing items, they have to go somewhere. So these houses have piles of junk in them, and I can not be bothered to collect all that stuff back into my bank or inventory. That's thousands of items...

Why not sell or trash these items? Why keep "piles of junk"?

xilfxlegion · March 2024

Sakiri wrote: »

I have 1 chest, over 100 bank spots and ~55 slots used on my main. My alts are not bank mules.

What the heck are people holding on to?

i have eso plus so double bank space - i have my own guild bank, all of the storage chests and 18 characters - all but 5 are mules.

i also have a bunch of houses that are just storage --- and i still run out of space.

granted, im a hoarder---- but a lot of armor sets i have i wont break down because i dont have the transmute crystals to remake them. i also have about 1000 motif pages and around 1200 surveys -thankfully surveys stack.

StihlReign · March 2024

Tandor wrote: »

StihlReign wrote: »

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

as a recovering hoarder, more storage slots will just lead to more hoarding. it will never be enough.

But that would be OK...if there's an option to charge accordingly.

It wouldn't be ok at all, because of the impact on everyone's performance.

The impact on performance would be considered in the calculation to offer higher tiers of storage based on price. Design options exist to reduce current storage limitations by removing some of the outdated legacy options still in place. While 'unlimited' isn't an option for anyone but Google, the thresholds can be moved, and often significantly with the use of AI and intelligent data and storage solutions.

These solutions tend to improve performance but come at a cost. Cost analysis is internal to Zos. No comment there.

freespirit · March 2024

I put my hands up I hoard furniture!

I have over the last few days been sorting that furniture and on that note I want to give a huge shout out and thank you to @Baertram for getting "Magic Sorter" addon functioning again....

It worked beautifully over several play sessions and all my garages are now lovingly sorted into categories once more!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you! 💕

On the subject of space in general, as mentioned my weakness is furniture but many of my friends play Tanks, DD's and Healers, I at least can use my houses but they are more limited, the Trials players amongst them often have multiple sets to cover every situation.

It would be nice if we could have slightly more bag space, even just 10 or 20 slots.

katanagirl1 · March 2024

So I guess you guys are telling us there is no valid reason why anyone’s inventory would be full, despite the reasons that have been given here?

Just because you don’t need trials gear or siege or housing furnishings doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t.

What if I told you I have to occasionally destroy transmute geodes? If I don’t need to reconstruct some set for a build change they pile up in my inventory from PvP after I reach the cap. So don’t you think the other stuff I have is either being used or is otherwise valuable if I destroy these?

When I get to the point where I cannot craft all of the day’s daily crafting writs I destroy enough to make room.

SilverBride · March 2024

katanagirl1 wrote: »

So I guess you guys are telling us there is no valid reason why anyone’s inventory would be full, despite the reasons that have been given here?

I am saying that some players hold on to items that aren't being used and are just taking up space.

I am very much into housing and have 32 decorated houses so far. Any furniture I have that is not part of a build is stored in my bank, which is only about half full. Most of it is bound or I'd sell it.

I also keep stacks of alchemy and provisioning items in my bank that I make up ahead of time for the daily writs.

The rest of my items are kept in storage chests in my houses, and those aren't even half full. All I keep are some monster sets with the Divines trait, some armor sets, weapons and jewelry in case I decide to roll an alt, a few assorted things like potions and soul gems and lockpicks and mount training books etc..

I never store surveys or maps or master writs because I always do those the same day I get them.

Also my characters keep 4 things with them at all times... tripots, soul gems, lockpicks and buff foods. Every time I log a character off for the day, I clear out their bag by putting anything of worth on the guild trader, deconstructing any other gear I picked up along the way and selling the junk to a merchant, leaving just the 4 items that they always carry.

Sarannah · March 2024

Sakiri wrote: »

The problem with giving more of anything is it'll be consumed and then demanded again. WoW gives 50 char slots; every day there's a new "we need more character slots" thread. They also have inventory space threads regularly, and concensus is always the same. They give more space, you'd fill it and ask for more again.

Where's it end? I have no idea.

Well, I do make and play all of those characters. All of my characters have completed the main quest+2 alliances(8 have completed cadwell's entirely, so all 3 alliances), have researched everything, learned motifs, have atleast two different outfits, have atleast two armory slots(some have 3-4) in use, have completed riding, have so many skillpoints they have all crafting skills maxed+points to spare, etc, etc. More character slots is a must, and I would really play those 50 characters. (This MYM I wanted to make a new PvP NB character but couldn't, just like many other character ideas are going to waste)

You are also wrong about storage filling itself back up again. The only reason why I use so many bank/character/storage slots, is because of master writs. I save those for double exp events, which means after those events I have plenty of space left. Both on my characters and my bank. Without the master writs, my bank is at about 250 slots used(mostly surveys). And without the master writs, that saved about 50 slots per character for me.

The same goes for the furniture. Yes, I use three houses as storage basically, but that is only because I want to use those items in my homes but have no space for them there! Every event and every time I gain furniture, I want to use it in my main home as a trophy: "Look I did that and got this!" So that every time I visit the home, I am reminded of what I have done in the game.

If there was a survey bag AND master writ bag, I wouldn't have these space issues at all.

PS: The furniture one doesn't bother me too much to be honest. As the houses I use for storage aren't going to be used anyways(doomchar plateau/etc).

Sakiri · March 2024

Sarannah wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

The problem with giving more of anything is it'll be consumed and then demanded again. WoW gives 50 char slots; every day there's a new "we need more character slots" thread. They also have inventory space threads regularly, and concensus is always the same. They give more space, you'd fill it and ask for more again.

Where's it end? I have no idea.

Well, I do make and play all of those characters. All of my characters have completed the main quest+2 alliances(8 have completed cadwell's entirely, so all 3 alliances), have researched everything, learned motifs, have atleast two different outfits, have atleast two armory slots(some have 3-4) in use, have completed riding, have so many skillpoints they have all crafting skills maxed+points to spare, etc, etc. More character slots is a must, and I would really play those 50 characters. (This MYM I wanted to make a new PvP NB character but couldn't, just like many other character ideas are going to waste)

You are also wrong about storage filling itself back up again. The only reason why I use so many bank/character/storage slots, is because of master writs. I save those for double exp events, which means after those events I have plenty of space left. Both on my characters and my bank. Without the master writs, my bank is at about 250 slots used(mostly surveys). And without the master writs, that saved about 50 slots per character for me.

The same goes for the furniture. Yes, I use three houses as storage basically, but that is only because I want to use those items in my homes but have no space for them there! Every event and every time I gain furniture, I want to use it in my main home as a trophy: "Look I did that and got this!" So that every time I visit the home, I am reminded of what I have done in the game.

If there was a survey bag AND master writ bag, I wouldn't have these space issues at all.

PS: The furniture one doesn't bother me too much to be honest. As the houses I use for storage aren't going to be used anyways(doomchar plateau/etc).

You, maybe, but you're not the majority of people wanting it.

And I don't understand why people stockpile surveys. Craft bag. Unlimited storage. Use them as you get them.

xilfxlegion · March 2024

Sakiri wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

The problem with giving more of anything is it'll be consumed and then demanded again. WoW gives 50 char slots; every day there's a new "we need more character slots" thread. They also have inventory space threads regularly, and concensus is always the same. They give more space, you'd fill it and ask for more again.

Where's it end? I have no idea.

Well, I do make and play all of those characters. All of my characters have completed the main quest+2 alliances(8 have completed cadwell's entirely, so all 3 alliances), have researched everything, learned motifs, have atleast two different outfits, have atleast two armory slots(some have 3-4) in use, have completed riding, have so many skillpoints they have all crafting skills maxed+points to spare, etc, etc. More character slots is a must, and I would really play those 50 characters. (This MYM I wanted to make a new PvP NB character but couldn't, just like many other character ideas are going to waste)

You are also wrong about storage filling itself back up again. The only reason why I use so many bank/character/storage slots, is because of master writs. I save those for double exp events, which means after those events I have plenty of space left. Both on my characters and my bank. Without the master writs, my bank is at about 250 slots used(mostly surveys). And without the master writs, that saved about 50 slots per character for me.

The same goes for the furniture. Yes, I use three houses as storage basically, but that is only because I want to use those items in my homes but have no space for them there! Every event and every time I gain furniture, I want to use it in my main home as a trophy: "Look I did that and got this!" So that every time I visit the home, I am reminded of what I have done in the game.

If there was a survey bag AND master writ bag, I wouldn't have these space issues at all.

PS: The furniture one doesn't bother me too much to be honest. As the houses I use for storage aren't going to be used anyways(doomchar plateau/etc).

You, maybe, but you're not the majority of people wanting it.

And I don't understand why people stockpile surveys. Craft bag. Unlimited storage. Use them as you get them.

honestly in my case its because they are boring. once in a while i'll pick an area and grab all of my surveys for that area and start getting them but after an hour of this i get bored and move onto something else.

years back when zos announced that they were gonna decrease the rate at which surveys dropped but double what they dropped i started saving them --- i had over 2000 at one point. but again-boredom

SilverBride · March 2024

xilfxlegion wrote: »

...in my case its because they are boring. once in a while i'll pick an area and grab all of my surveys for that area and start getting them but after an hour of this i get bored and move onto something else.

I'd get bored too if I was spending an hour or more doing surveys, which is why I don't let them stack up. Instead I spend 5 to 10 minutes doing the ones I got that day and never put any in storage.

Füßchen · March 2024

I'd like something like an inbox for every character or the option to mark items in bank for specific characters or something like that. It could be limited to like 10 items or something, but it would help me a lot with inventory management.
I have some alts that I don't play that much, so I don't log onto them every day, because it would just take to much time (around 5 min or more in loading screens and that is without getting kicked out of the game completely while trying to go back to the character screen, which happens several times a day if I try to log to different characters).
If I find any recipes, gear with important traits they don't have researched yet or gear pieces with the right trait from sets they still need (to actually use in their builds), I need to put them somewhere. So every time I log in with an alt, I need to remember what I put into my bank or chests for them and take the time to go through everything to find it. Surprisingly I regularly miss things because I don't remember, that I put them there a week ago or just overlooked them between the regular gear I keep in my bank (pvp-gear and other sets that I use on differenct characters, because I don't have the transmutes for everyone to have their own copy yet).
If I could put those things into a box specific for them and just take it out the next time I log in or mark the items in the bank, so I find them faster and more reliably, it would really help saving time. And it'd help with wasting bank space too, if those items were either not in there at all or marked and thus easier to see, when there is a lot of items collected in there for char xy.

Aorys · March 2024

got about 1400 alchemy/enchanting master writs* scattered between 3 guild banks which I can't get rid faster enough than my production rate, 1 guild bank almost filled with motifs. There are many items that should be able to stack, master writs are just one of them

ellmarie · March 2024

Definitely furniture for me! I need more room.

gariondavey · March 2024

Aznox wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

What the heck are people holding on to?

10 years of golded set pieces from 20 different PvP metas.

also too lazy to use alts to store everything.

Yeah essentially this.

Also, agreed to op.

soelslaev · March 2024

xilfxlegion wrote: »

i also have...around 1200 surveys

I clicked on "awesome" reaction to this post, but I meant the original meaning of "awesome" as in creating a feeling of awe. "Awe" meaning: a feeling of fear and reverence.

katanagirl1 · March 2024

SilverBride wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

So I guess you guys are telling us there is no valid reason why anyone’s inventory would be full, despite the reasons that have been given here?

I am saying that some players hold on to items that aren't being used and are just taking up space.

I am very much into housing and have 32 decorated houses so far. Any furniture I have that is not part of a build is stored in my bank, which is only about half full. Most of it is bound or I'd sell it.

I also keep stacks of alchemy and provisioning items in my bank that I make up ahead of time for the daily writs.

The rest of my items are kept in storage chests in my houses, and those aren't even half full. All I keep are some monster sets with the Divines trait, some armor sets, weapons and jewelry in case I decide to roll an alt, a few assorted things like potions and soul gems and lockpicks and mount training books etc..

I never store surveys or maps or master writs because I always do those the same day I get them.

Also my characters keep 4 things with them at all times... tripots, soul gems, lockpicks and buff foods. Every time I log a character off for the day, I clear out their bag by putting anything of worth on the guild trader, deconstructing any other gear I picked up along the way and selling the junk to a merchant, leaving just the 4 items that they always carry.

That works for you. It does not sound like you are invested in a vet trials group, or have PvP characters, so you will not require as many items as I do.

By the way I do not keep surveys stored permanently but my main character does hold them until her inventory gets full and stops to clear them. I keep master writs because I have only one guild trader and sometimes they back up waiting to sell. I also have a bunch of old purple jewelry writs I am slowly doing to earn my grand master crafter tables. I have a bunch of cold fire siege from the PvP event in the bank until I can use them too.

Can you just accept that other players have a need for more items and let us play the game the way we want? Why does everyone have to play your way?

moo_2021 · March 2024

StihlReign wrote: »

Storage costs money. Storage is allocated space somewhere on some server connected to some database that says here's what you have.

Remove the cap of 200 for mats and nobody would need more space.

It's just a number. Unless they store it in one byte, the cap could be lifted to billions without extra cost.

TaSheen · March 2024

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

So I guess you guys are telling us there is no valid reason why anyone’s inventory would be full, despite the reasons that have been given here?

I am saying that some players hold on to items that aren't being used and are just taking up space.

I am very much into housing and have 32 decorated houses so far. Any furniture I have that is not part of a build is stored in my bank, which is only about half full. Most of it is bound or I'd sell it.

I also keep stacks of alchemy and provisioning items in my bank that I make up ahead of time for the daily writs.

The rest of my items are kept in storage chests in my houses, and those aren't even half full. All I keep are some monster sets with the Divines trait, some armor sets, weapons and jewelry in case I decide to roll an alt, a few assorted things like potions and soul gems and lockpicks and mount training books etc..

I never store surveys or maps or master writs because I always do those the same day I get them.

Also my characters keep 4 things with them at all times... tripots, soul gems, lockpicks and buff foods. Every time I log a character off for the day, I clear out their bag by putting anything of worth on the guild trader, deconstructing any other gear I picked up along the way and selling the junk to a merchant, leaving just the 4 items that they always carry.

That works for you. It does not sound like you are invested in a vet trials group, or have PvP characters, so you will not require as many items as I do.

By the way I do not keep surveys stored permanently but my main character does hold them until her inventory gets full and stops to clear them. I keep master writs because I have only one guild trader and sometimes they back up waiting to sell. I also have a bunch of old purple jewelry writs I am slowly doing to earn my grand master crafter tables. I have a bunch of cold fire siege from the PvP event in the bank until I can use them too.

Can you just accept that other players have a need for more items and let us play the game the way we want? Why does everyone have to play your way?

Everyone's different. I only solo, don't do group content of any kind, and while I tend to "hoard" surveys until I run out of something, I don't have to have all the stuff you do because I don't do the sorts of content you do.

Until I started reading this thread, I really didn't know how anyone could run out of space.... My bad. There are things that someone like me just doesn't take into consideration because we're not doing the same sorts of things that those with space issues do!

Sakiri · March 2024

Aorys wrote: »

got about 1400 alchemy/enchanting master writs* scattered between 3 guild banks which I can't get rid faster enough than my production rate, 1 guild bank almost filled with motifs. There are many items that should be able to stack, master writs are just one of them

Master writs likely don't stack because each one is a unique item asking for a unique thing, worth different amounts of vouchers.

If you didn't know what you had to make before you opened it, and they were all the same item, then maybe I could see them stacking, but as they are, no.

SilverBride · March 2024

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Can you just accept that other players have a need for more items and let us play the game the way we want? Why does everyone have to play your way?

I agree that some players use more items than I do, but they don't need twice as much space as I use to store them.

I also know that a lot of players keep excessive amounts of things they don't need or use, like multiple 700 slot houses filled with literally thousands of furnishings that will probably never be used.

I don't want the servers bogged down with a lot of unnecessary items that can decrease server performance for all of us.