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What gaming PC should I get for ESO? -Beginner Help

jclementi9
jclementi9
Soul Shriven
Hello, with the console version of ESO being delayed I am interested in buying a gaming PC so I can start to play the game. I have no experience with PC gaming or how to understand any of the system requirements. I apologize in advance for my major noobness with this lol.

I am looking for the absolute most affordable and Cheapest gaming PC that would allow me to run the game smoothly at high settings. Again, I am not looking for the most amazing gaming pc in the world. The cheaper the better as I plan on switching to the console version.

Could anyone perhaps help me find something that fits my wants? I was trying to look myself and was getting confused with all the specs. I found this but then I read something about it not having a video card:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-4gb-memory-500gb-hard-drive/9177183.p?id=1218994543715&skuId=9177183&st=pcmcat287600050002_categoryid$abcat0501000&cp=1&lp=1

Is something like that a viable option? Could someone help lead me to a better option?


Also, is it possible for me to play ESO for PC with an Xbox One controller?

Thank you in advance and again I apologize for my beginner questions!
  • Mortelus
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    4gb is cutting it fine for PvP if that's your interest.

    My Rig is; a Q8200 quadcore (6 yr olds :), 4gb DDR2 RAM (Also 6 yrs old) and a GTX 680 2GB video card (less than 6 months old).

    Outside of PvP I play max everything, I see a little drop in FPS in side of crowded cities, but in PvP I need to drop to medium. As I play from China I am unsure how much this is to do with lag and how much is down to my low RAM.

    EDIT: That machine looks plenty fine, and you could even buy an extra 4gb of RAM which isn't expensive.
    Edited by Mortelus on May 9, 2014 1:32AM
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  • jclementi9
    jclementi9
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    Thank you for your response! Is the machine I linked in the original post ready to play with a monitor? or do I need anything else like a video card?

    anyone?
    Edited by jclementi9 on May 9, 2014 1:55AM
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    jclementi9 wrote: »
    Thank you for your response! Is the machine I linked in the original post ready to play with a monitor? or do I need anything else like a video card?

    anyone?

    It does have a video card (AMD) but you will have to buy a monitor nevertheless, it doesn't say it would include one, nor Is it on the picture.
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
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    You might want to get a keyboard, and preferably a gaming mouse,.though, they are on the pic but no mention in the specs part. But that is your call. Mouse can be cheap, bought mine for 15-20 pounds with 2 extra buttons and a doubleclick button and 5 DPI (sensitivity) settings and I like it. The brand is Trust if you want to look around but if you are going for the absolute minimum, regular ones will do.
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • annarr1117nub18_ESO
    Purchase a high performance new $900.00 Desktop PC and TESO shall run perfectly on it!
  • annarr1117nub18_ESO
    My high performance desktop PC was purchased in January of 2011 for the price of $899.99 plus tax and s/h and it runs both Skyrim and TESO perfectly!
  • Mortelus
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    Csub wrote: »
    You might want to get a keyboard, and preferably a gaming mouse,.though, they are on the pic but no mention in the specs part. But that is your call. Mouse can be cheap, bought mine for 15-20 pounds with 2 extra buttons and a doubleclick button and 5 DPI (sensitivity) settings and I like it. The brand is Trust if you want to look around but if you are going for the absolute minimum, regular ones will do.

    Here;

    What's Included
    •CyberPowerPC Gamer Ultra Desktop - 4GB Memory - 500GB Hard Drive
    •Power cord
    USB gaming keyboard, USB gaming mouse
    •Windows Recovery CD, driver discs
    •Owner's manual

    So mouse and keyboard is included, but monitor appears not to be so you would need a monitor.

    DO you have HD TV? If so hook it up to that, that's what I do, looks great on a 55" screen. :)

    My advice, don't get an XB1 or PS4, if you already have one, throw it in the bin. Then go outside and buy a new $1000 dollar PC, you'll have lots more fun :)

    Edited by Mortelus on May 9, 2014 2:33AM
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    Mortelus wrote: »
    Csub wrote: »
    You might want to get a keyboard, and preferably a gaming mouse,.though, they are on the pic but no mention in the specs part. But that is your call. Mouse can be cheap, bought mine for 15-20 pounds with 2 extra buttons and a doubleclick button and 5 DPI (sensitivity) settings and I like it. The brand is Trust if you want to look around but if you are going for the absolute minimum, regular ones will do.

    Here;

    What's Included
    •CyberPowerPC Gamer Ultra Desktop - 4GB Memory - 500GB Hard Drive
    •Power cord
    USB gaming keyboard, USB gaming mouse
    •Windows Recovery CD, driver discs
    •Owner's manual

    So mouse and keyboard is included, but monitor appears not to be so you would need a monitor.

    DO you have HD TV? If so hook it up to that, that's what I do, looks great on a 55" screen. :)

    My advice, don't get an XB1 or PS4, if you already have one, throw it in the bin. Then go outside and buy a new $1000 dollar PC, you'll have lots more fun :)

    Oh true, I missed that, sorry, I am at work on my phone so did not inspect it thoroughly as it seems :D
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • Cudda
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    Mortelus wrote: »

    My advice, don't get an XB1 or PS4, if you already have one, throw it in the bin. Then go outside and buy a new $1000 dollar PC, you'll have lots more fun :)

    Yup, because "graphical power" is what makes games fun, PERFECT thought process, also priceless.

    I sure love playing Second Son on PC, I sure love having games optimized for my hardware on my PC.

    Ahh screw it, there is no help for the ignorant.
  • Cudda
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    All I can say, is I spent 700$ on my graphic card alone, and the game is no funner than when I had a 4 yr old graphic card.

    Oh wait, i can move my graphic slider to the right some more tho. Hell ya that was fun!
  • jclementi9
    jclementi9
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    Unfortunately I am not in the market for a $900+++ gaming computer lol

    Anyway, I am leaning towards the one that I listed in my original post. The graphics card is AMD Radeon HD 7540D. Is that good enough with all the other specs of that PC to run this game at high settings smoothly or will i have to sacrifice to medium settings (sorry I know nothing about specs lol)

    thanks guys.
    Edited by jclementi9 on May 9, 2014 2:44AM
  • Mortelus
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    Cudda wrote: »
    Mortelus wrote: »

    My advice, don't get an XB1 or PS4, if you already have one, throw it in the bin. Then go outside and buy a new $1000 dollar PC, you'll have lots more fun :)

    Yup, because "graphical power" is what makes games fun, PERFECT thought process, also priceless.

    I sure love playing Second Son on PC, I sure love having games optimized for my hardware on my PC.

    Ahh screw it, there is no help for the ignorant.

    No because gaming on a PC is more fun, like Modded Skyrim is more fun than the console version.

    Where did I mention graphics in my post, because I must have missed me typing that bit. Maybe I blacked out or something.
    Edited by Mortelus on May 9, 2014 2:55AM
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  • Mortelus
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    jclementi9 wrote: »
    Unfortunately I am not in the market for a $900+++ gaming computer lol

    Anyway, I am leaning towards the one that I listed in my original post. The graphics card is AMD Radeon HD 7540D. Is that good enough with all the other specs of that PC to run this game at high settings smoothly or will i have to sacrifice to medium settings (sorry I know nothing about specs lol)

    thanks guys.

    Judging by my dinosaur of a PC, you're going to have no issues with this machine.
    But like I suggested maybe more RAM for PvP, I don't know. Could just be my lag from China which is causing most of it but I doubt it.
    Edited by Mortelus on May 9, 2014 2:54AM
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    I played Skyrim on both PC and PS3 but never molded it thus I don't even feel the need to do so! I am not saying mods are bad, they are awesome but it's not everything. There are some games that I prefer playing on my PS and some on my laptop. I would buy Skyrim for PS4 too (despite having it on PC and PS3 already) if I had one and it was released for that.
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • Mortelus
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    Cudda wrote: »
    All I can say, is I spent 700$ on my graphic card alone, and the game is no funner than when I had a 4 yr old graphic card.

    Oh wait, i can move my graphic slider to the right some more tho. Hell ya that was fun!

    Each to their own I guess...
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  • Cudda
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    jclementi9 wrote: »

    Also, is it possible for me to play ESO for PC with an Xbox One controller?

    Thank you in advance and again I apologize for my beginner questions!


    No, currently there is no "good" way to do this. I have heard of there being a "hack" to get xbox one controllers working. But being new to a PC, this is not recommended.

    Also this game does not have native controller support, so you can not play with any controller with out using third party software.

    With that said, look up posts regarding Xpadder, this will allow you to use a wired xbox 360 controller with the game. They have youtube videos to help you do this. It can still be fustrating and will not copy what experience you will have once you move back to your console, basically you will probably have to relearn all the buttons.

    I think it sucks that you have to buy a new PC just to play this game, :(

    Good luck, and i will try to post some cheap PCs that I Think would help you out.
  • Cudda
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    do you possibly leave near a Mircocenter? You can go to microcenter.com to see if one is near you.

    They always have very cheap used PCs that will run games
  • Cudda
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    http://www.microcenter.com/product/424139/M11BB-US004O_Desktop_Computer - no keyboard/mouse - 379.99 - Has better graphics card with HDMI out - so it can go right to your TV. You can get Kb/M for under 50-60$ gaming grade, or just a regular kb/m for like 20$ - If you want a monitor, you can add on at this site and they have a 22" AOC LED for 99.99.

    Hope that helps a little bit.
  • Audigy
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    I would advice against buying a prebuild PC, they are not good enough for gaming, no matter what the people who sell it label it.

    The CPU is weak, the GPU is onboard and I am sure every other part is as well (weak). I wish there would be a law that prevents people from naming every PC "Gaming" just to sell it cheap to people who are sadly not so into PC´s.


    A basic PC for TESO should have,

    GPU: AMD 270x or better
    CPU: Intel 2500 or better
    PSU: Be quiet / Corsair / Cougar 450W or better
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue or better
    Ram: 8 GB DDR3Dual channel (2x4GB) brand isn't important, 1333 is enough
    Mainboard: Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 or better
    Case: Your choice (3 fans minimum)

    For such a system you pay about 500-600 bucks and it will run every game on high or ultra.


    If you buy that pre build PC, you would first need to get a new GPU for about 200 bucks + a PSU for about 100 bucks. So that you will be at around 700 bucks and still have a much weaker PC than the one I suggested.


    Don't fall into the trap of pre build PC´s, they are overprized and very weak.
    Edited by Audigy on May 9, 2014 4:55AM
  • Cudda
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    Audigy wrote: »
    I would advice against buying a prebuild PC, they are not good enough for gaming, no matter what the people who sell it label it.

    The CPU is weak, the GPU is onboard and I am sure every other part is as well (weak). I wish there would be a law that prevents people from naming every PC "Gaming" just to sell it cheap to people who are sadly not so into PC´s.


    A basic PC for TESO should have,

    GPU: AMD 270x or better
    CPU: Intel 2500 or better
    PSU: Be quiet / Corsair / Cougar 450W or better
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue or better
    Ram: 8 GB DDR3Dual channel (2x4GB) brand isn't important, 1333 is enough
    Mainboard: Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 or better
    Case: Your choice (3 fans minimum)

    For such a system you pay about 500-600 bucks and it will run every game on high or ultra.


    If you buy that pre build PC, you would first need to get a new GPU for about 200 bucks + a PSU for about 100 bucks. So that you will be at around 700 bucks and still have a much weaker PC than the one I suggested.


    Don't fall into the trap of pre build PC´s, they are overprized and very weak.

    You missed the part where he said he isn't interested in PCs, thus he isn't going to build a PC, thus his choice is Prebuilts.

    ya...
  • Mortelus
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    @Audigy My prebuilt 6 year old gaming PC can handle this game on Max settings, seems pretty ok to me.... OK I did swap the graphics card out recently.... :)
    Edited by Mortelus on May 9, 2014 6:05AM
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  • KariTR
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    Cudda wrote: »
    Audigy wrote: »
    I would advice against buying a prebuild PC, they are not good enough for gaming, no matter what the people who sell it label it.

    The CPU is weak, the GPU is onboard and I am sure every other part is as well (weak). I wish there would be a law that prevents people from naming every PC "Gaming" just to sell it cheap to people who are sadly not so into PC´s.


    A basic PC for TESO should have,

    GPU: AMD 270x or better
    CPU: Intel 2500 or better
    PSU: Be quiet / Corsair / Cougar 450W or better
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue or better
    Ram: 8 GB DDR3Dual channel (2x4GB) brand isn't important, 1333 is enough
    Mainboard: Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 or better
    Case: Your choice (3 fans minimum)

    For such a system you pay about 500-600 bucks and it will run every game on high or ultra.


    If you buy that pre build PC, you would first need to get a new GPU for about 200 bucks + a PSU for about 100 bucks. So that you will be at around 700 bucks and still have a much weaker PC than the one I suggested.


    Don't fall into the trap of pre build PC´s, they are overprized and very weak.

    You missed the part where he said he isn't interested in PCs, thus he isn't going to build a PC, thus his choice is Prebuilts.

    ya...

    You don't have retailers there that allow you to specify each component, which they then put together for you? How strange.
  • Mortelus
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    jclementi9 wrote: »

    Also, is it possible for me to play ESO for PC with an Xbox One controller?

    Thank you in advance and again I apologize for my beginner questions!

    Yes, get Xpadder and there are plenty of people here who can give you some advice on how to map the keys, there are plenty of posts about it.

    It's cost only $5 to buy the real version, unfortunately, I would use it but you can only pay through PayPal and I do not have a PayPal account.
    Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?
  • RashosMedaresh
    I play with a 360 controller (with pinnacle rather than xpadder). It's easy to set up. A quick search for 'xbox one controller pc' gives advice on using a One controller.
  • RashosMedaresh
    Oh, and i also sometimes play on a macbook, which is i7 2 Ghz, 8 GB Ram and no video card, runs fine on medium. I would assume a windows machine would be the same?
  • Audigy
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    Mortelus wrote: »
    @Audigy My prebuilt 6 year old gaming PC can handle this game on Max settings, seems pretty ok to me.... OK I did swap the graphics card out recently.... :)

    No doubt about that, the Q8200 was a good CPU and is still reliable if you don't need hyper-threading etc. ;) Yet you must lower some settings as you mentioned, which I felt the OP didn't want to?

    TESO does not really use new CPU´s, that's why all the older ones at least from Intel are fine. But I honestly hope ZO will tweak this in future, Mantle is an option, but also hyper threading is and I believe PVP with both things available will run on a decent 60 FPS on Ultra, which right now is almost impossible to achieve with a "cheap system".
    He could theoretically also play on high with a basic duo core like the I3 in combination with a 750TI as example if he doesn't care that much about pvp and the improvements the client might make in future. But he only saves maybe 100 bucks and loses about 50% in comparison to a setup like suggested.

    While he mentioned he only needs a PC until the Xbox comes out, I still felt spending 400-500 bucks for a weaker one is not advisable if you can get a much stronger one for 600-700 that also allows you to play other games in future.

    That said, everyone value´s money differently and if he doesn't has those 200 extra then ya he wont have another choice I guess. But the PC he linked is really bad, yours in comparison is a lot better ;)

    If we OP might could tell us which shops he has around the corner, then we might be able to browse their stores and could look up a PC that is more reliable.
    Cudda wrote: »
    Audigy wrote: »
    I would advice against buying a prebuild PC, they are not good enough for gaming, no matter what the people who sell it label it.

    The CPU is weak, the GPU is onboard and I am sure every other part is as well (weak). I wish there would be a law that prevents people from naming every PC "Gaming" just to sell it cheap to people who are sadly not so into PC´s.


    A basic PC for TESO should have,

    GPU: AMD 270x or better
    CPU: Intel 2500 or better
    PSU: Be quiet / Corsair / Cougar 450W or better
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue or better
    Ram: 8 GB DDR3Dual channel (2x4GB) brand isn't important, 1333 is enough
    Mainboard: Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 or better
    Case: Your choice (3 fans minimum)

    For such a system you pay about 500-600 bucks and it will run every game on high or ultra.


    If you buy that pre build PC, you would first need to get a new GPU for about 200 bucks + a PSU for about 100 bucks. So that you will be at around 700 bucks and still have a much weaker PC than the one I suggested.


    Don't fall into the trap of pre build PC´s, they are overprized and very weak.

    You missed the part where he said he isn't interested in PCs, thus he isn't going to build a PC, thus his choice is Prebuilts.

    ya...

    I saw this, but building a PC is very simple that said I have a computer background due my time in university so I might not fit the norm here :D

    That said, most decent PC shops offer a service that they build your PC for maybe 50 bucks extra. Its really worth it in my opinion if someone doesn't dare to lay hands on it himself.
    Edited by Audigy on May 9, 2014 7:19AM
  • Sarenia
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    @jclementi9‌

    I always advocate self-built, but I understand that doesn't work for everyone. Here are a few options for you to consider, all of which will play ESO well...

    - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227536
    --- $750 (currently down from $850)

    - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ZX1AJ8153
    --- $700

    - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227541
    --- $600 (currently down from $690)

    Obviously the first is by far the most value for your dollar, if you can swing it.
    Also, is it possible for me to play ESO for PC with an Xbox One controller?

    Yes, it is. I play with an XBox controller myself, it's easier on my hands.

    The game doesn't natively support controllers, though. You need to use 3rd party software. Personally, I use XPadder. A search engine should enlighten you further on software options, and ESO profiles for said software.
    Edited by Sarenia on May 9, 2014 7:31AM
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  • Sallakat
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    I dunno if anyone mentioned a headset. If you ever plan on joining group activities, or a guild etc. it would be preferable to have a headset with mic on it so you can communicate with people in dungeons, pvp etc. In my guild we usually log on TeamSpeak before we log in game, we just talk *** while playing, it's nice.

    I use Steel Series Siberia V2 headset, it's freaking awesome, sound quality is great when listening to music too. Not that expensive either, I think it was like 50eur here in Finland wher eI bought them. steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-siberia-v2

    And even if you wanna get an affordable PC set to play with, I would say still invest into good keyboard and mouse. When I started with my first MMO I just took off the shelf of the store some really basic logitech mouse and some random keyboard. But pretty soon ended up investing in Razer products because they are just so much better, ergonomically too.

    My husband build my rig, I wanted an affordable rig as well. So went with the GTX660 card for example and it's been working perfectly on ultra/high settings in the game. And it didn't really cost that much.
    Rebuilt - Aldmeri Dominion

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    Ruusu - sorcerer
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  • jclementi9
    jclementi9
    Soul Shriven
    Thanks for your help everyone.

    My issue with building a PC is that I have no idea how to do it.

    My issue with specifying parts to someone who could build a PC is that I don't know enough about PC parts to be able to pick what parts I wanted that would still allow me to run that game at reasonably high settings while keeping cost as low as possible :neutral_face:
  • RianaTheBosmer
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    My advice to you is to go in to Best Buy and let them help you and I can play the game great on a Dell Inspiron laptop with the AMD A10 processor and the on board vid chip, so I wouldn't worry about that at this time since you're eventually going back to your console.
    Edited by RianaTheBosmer on May 9, 2014 8:30PM
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