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You're on your own with the bots from here on out.
Daverios
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After the sickening kick to the teeth you gave real players on April 30th with your stealth nerf and addition of diminishing returns I will no longer be supporting your battle against the bots. You are on your own.
I will no longer report them I will no longer discuss them, heck I might even give em a helping hand with people trying to kill em with Betty Neches and what not.
If any action you take against bots effects me negatively how long did you really expect me to keep supporting and helping you? Seriously?
Who is with me on this?
Edited by Daverios on May 8, 2014 9:17PM I will no longer report them I will no longer discuss them, heck I might even give em a helping hand with people trying to kill em with Betty Neches and what not.
If any action you take against bots effects me negatively how long did you really expect me to keep supporting and helping you? Seriously?
Who is with me on this?
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esoone✭✭✭Yea but there everywere else now farming mats and quest mobs. Also we also dont get much good stuff anymore from dungeons.2 -
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✭Yea, solo killed a boss in a pub dungeon last night and got some gold and a foul hide.
Yay.4 -
crush83✭✭✭✭Did you ever have any luck buying in-game gold from the gold-sellers like you wanted? Just curious how that's working out for you.4
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Exactly.Yea but there everywere else now farming mats and quest mobs. Also we also dont get much good stuff anymore from dungeons.
Only a matter of time before they nerf those places too, helping the botters/RMT sellers even more.
You can't nerf this stuff AFTER the bots exploit it and gain thousands of items, since that just means the only place to fulfill demand is the RMT sellers themselves. Meanwhile player supply continues to dry up as players get annoyed with DR and stop bothering.
Edited by ChairGraveyard on May 8, 2014 9:28PM2 -
Daverios✭✭✭✭Did you ever have any luck buying in-game gold from the gold-sellers like you wanted? Just curious how that's working out for you.
huh why would I need in game gold?
Are you referring to me stating that I would rather buy rare motif and recipes from the bots right now, but even better just add it to ESO store?
Its true I do feel that way. But only since April 30th
Kind of a convoluted way for you to interpret that however. Perhaps you should slow down and read.
Edited by Daverios on May 8, 2014 9:29PM3 -
crush83✭✭✭✭Did you ever have any luck buying in-game gold from the gold-sellers like you wanted? Just curious how that's working out for you.
huh why would I need in game gold?
Are you referring to me stating that I would rather buy rare motif and recipes from the bots right now, but even better just add it to ESO store?
Its true I do feel that way. But only since April 30th
Kind of a convoluted way for you to interpret that however. Perhaps you should slow down and read.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/94358/wtb-rare-motifs-for-real-money-zos
You explicitly threatened that you would start buying motifs from the bots if ESO didn't begin offering them for sale. If that's not the point you intended to convey, then I'd implore you to slow down and think about what you are typing before you hit "Post Comment".
That said, you're right. I don't understand how badly they've nerfed it because I already canceled my subscription. I feel for you though. It's just not smart for you to run around saying you are going to start buying stuff with RMT if that's not what you are really mean.Edited by crush83 on May 8, 2014 9:35PM2 -
Daverios✭✭✭✭Did you ever have any luck buying in-game gold from the gold-sellers like you wanted? Just curious how that's working out for you.
huh why would I need in game gold?
Are you referring to me stating that I would rather buy rare motif and recipes from the bots right now, but even better just add it to ESO store?
Its true I do feel that way. But only since April 30th
Kind of a convoluted way for you to interpret that however. Perhaps you should slow down and read.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/94358/wtb-rare-motifs-for-real-money-zos
You explicitly threatened that you would start buying motifs from the bots if ESO didn't begin offering them for sale. If that's not the point you intended to convey, then I'd implore you to slow down and think about what you are typing before you hit "Post Comment".
Isnt that what I just said. What does the first line say? 'Put these in the store'. I am also not the only person expressing these feelings.
Thx Captain Obvious!
Edited by Daverios on May 8, 2014 9:35PM1 -
esoone✭✭✭Buying from these botters is like shaking hands with the devil but sofar zeni dont seem to have a solid solution to root out the cheaters. But suporting bots is only making it worse.3
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Daverios✭✭✭✭Buying from these botters is like shaking hands with the devil but sofar zeni dont seem to have a solid solution to root out the cheaters. But suporting bots is only making it worse.
And what guarantee do I have that if I buy said item for ingame gold I am not still supporting the bots. None, in fact it pretty well known that only the bots and exploiters have stockpiles of these. So chances are pretty damn high I would be in either case, wouldn't you say?
Anyway back on topic and ignoring crushboy. I am also in no way motivated to help Zeni with thier bot problem if any help I just just earns me a kick in the ribs.
Edited by Daverios on May 8, 2014 9:38PM0 -
crush83✭✭✭✭Did you ever have any luck buying in-game gold from the gold-sellers like you wanted? Just curious how that's working out for you.
huh why would I need in game gold?
Are you referring to me stating that I would rather buy rare motif and recipes from the bots right now, but even better just add it to ESO store?
Its true I do feel that way. But only since April 30th
Kind of a convoluted way for you to interpret that however. Perhaps you should slow down and read.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/94358/wtb-rare-motifs-for-real-money-zos
You explicitly threatened that you would start buying motifs from the bots if ESO didn't begin offering them for sale. If that's not the point you intended to convey, then I'd implore you to slow down and think about what you are typing before you hit "Post Comment".
Isnt that what I just said. What does the first line say? 'Put these in the store'. I am also not the only person expressing these feelings.
Thx Captain Obvious!
What does the second line say:I will only wait so long before going to the 'other guys'.1 -
Daverios✭✭✭✭Did you ever have any luck buying in-game gold from the gold-sellers like you wanted? Just curious how that's working out for you.
huh why would I need in game gold?
Are you referring to me stating that I would rather buy rare motif and recipes from the bots right now, but even better just add it to ESO store?
Its true I do feel that way. But only since April 30th
Kind of a convoluted way for you to interpret that however. Perhaps you should slow down and read.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/94358/wtb-rare-motifs-for-real-money-zos
You explicitly threatened that you would start buying motifs from the bots if ESO didn't begin offering them for sale. If that's not the point you intended to convey, then I'd implore you to slow down and think about what you are typing before you hit "Post Comment".
Isnt that what I just said. What does the first line say? 'Put these in the store'. I am also not the only person expressing these feelings.
Thx Captain Obvious!
What does the second line say:I will only wait so long before going to the 'other guys'.
Please stay on topic, you are welcome to discuss that in the other thread and I can reply there to avoid confusion.
Thanks
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snowmanflvb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Considering how much less gold farmer spamming is going on and the reduction in bots in public dungeons and GM going through zones swatting them down I would say they are doing a good job on them. Now if people such as the OP would stop supporting them they would just go away.Edited by snowmanflvb14_ESO on May 8, 2014 9:42PMMagic is impressive but now Minsc leads SWORDS FOR EVERYONE!!1
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crush83✭✭✭✭Did you ever have any luck buying in-game gold from the gold-sellers like you wanted? Just curious how that's working out for you.
huh why would I need in game gold?
Are you referring to me stating that I would rather buy rare motif and recipes from the bots right now, but even better just add it to ESO store?
Its true I do feel that way. But only since April 30th
Kind of a convoluted way for you to interpret that however. Perhaps you should slow down and read.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/94358/wtb-rare-motifs-for-real-money-zos
You explicitly threatened that you would start buying motifs from the bots if ESO didn't begin offering them for sale. If that's not the point you intended to convey, then I'd implore you to slow down and think about what you are typing before you hit "Post Comment".
Isnt that what I just said. What does the first line say? 'Put these in the store'. I am also not the only person expressing these feelings.
Thx Captain Obvious!
What does the second line say:I will only wait so long before going to the 'other guys'.
Please stay on topic, you are welcome to discuss that in the other thread and I can reply there to avoid confusion.
Thanks
I did contribute. I said I feel for you, and I can imagine how this would be frustrating.
I'd be more willing to be on board with you if this wasn't the third thread on this topic you've made today and I didn't think you were doing business with "the other guys". I just wanted to clear that up. (It's still not clear if you were just using empty threats against ZOS to try to get your way, or if you were serious)Edited by crush83 on May 8, 2014 9:44PM0 -
esoone✭✭✭If you support the bots your becoming part of the problem. I think zeni is doing it so wrong by punishing us instead of botters but i also see them making a effort and are imo very caught of guard by the huge amount of bots.2
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Sigh, just wait until the kiosks are started. Highest bidding guilds will be renting them. And guess who owns the guilds with the most gold to bid, eh? Nothing like actually setting up a system where the gold sellers can legitimately and easily sell their ill gotten mats.
Edited by redwoodtreesprite on May 8, 2014 9:45PM1 -
Seiously.. Just ignore the bots and move on... Cant imagine how those can have such a major impact on some players. Sure they might be somewhat annoying to see crawling allover, nothing else. You play your game - they play theirs. Is been long time since i cared to much about bots. It sure wont help anyone or yourself comming here threatening to do this or do that if not this and that. So chill, play and move along... and motifs in store? Come on... Find em or buy em from someone ingame... Gamestores where you can buy rare stuff bother me way more than bots and its not like its so hard to earn golds for your motifs either...0
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But the game should have been designed properly in the first place. It should never have been released with all these loopholes. Should have been Fort Knox. Not Livernois Avenue and West Chicago Street.
People in this game were spoiled rotten with a no-holds-barred, exploits galore style of game. Take it away from them, impose new rules, and people start to kick and scream.
Good example is this broken horse. Everyone is spoiled with never-ending sprint. Take it away, back to kicking and screaming.
This game is being developed on the fly.Edited by michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO on May 8, 2014 9:49PM2 -
esoone✭✭✭Yes the game feels like its stil in alpha stage and zeni makes very weird design choices.0
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Daverios✭✭✭✭tjockis1981 wrote: »Seiously.. Just ignore the bots and move on... Cant imagine how those can have such a major impact on some players. Sure they might be somewhat annoying to see crawling allover, nothing else. You play your game - they play theirs. Is been long time since i cared to much about bots. It sure wont help anyone or yourself comming here threatening to do this or do that if not this and that. So chill, play and move along... and motifs in store? Come on... Find em or buy em from someone ingame... Gamestores where you can buy rare stuff bother me way more than bots and its not like its so hard to earn golds for your motifs either...
I would love to find them and up until last weekend that was exactly my plan. Then I found out for two days I had wasted all my time and effort and was collecting 300 lockpicks because of stealth nerf diminishing returns. I am PISSED SUPER EFFING PISSED! and so are many others because now instead of us having a chance to find this stuff ourselves we are no longer motivated to do so. Once you have went through an entire town and gotten 5 lockpicks maybe you will feel the same.
Edited by Daverios on May 8, 2014 9:52PM1 -
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✭Drachenfier wrote: »Yea, solo killed a boss in a pub dungeon last night and got some gold and a foul hide.
Yay.
Yeah, they "Screwed the pooch" there and killed one of my favorite parts of Games; dungeons. Now that I can no longer enjoy them because of Loot Nerfs, I have to share my quest hubs with them.
Guess what gets nerfed next?
I just want to know what I am going to be allowed to do in this game?
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I still have to run into someone that's botting... I cleared all caves and all public dungeons... but... I don't stick around trying to find them either... I get in, kill the boss and if it doesn't drop any loot, to bad... I move on.
Might be because I levelled pretty fast to 50 that I didn't run into any but then again, I payed to play The Elder Scrolls Online, and not "Spot the Bot"...
Seems some people really go out of their way to find them, just to have something to whine about...
Bots are like drugs... If you don't go looking for them you won't see any, but if you look for it you notice it's all over the placeThe statement "if you put enough monkeys behind enough typewriters... sooner or later one will produce the works of Shakespeare" has sadly been proven utterly wrong by the internet...2 -
Calaban✭✭✭tjockis1981 wrote: »Seiously.. Just ignore the bots and move on... Cant imagine how those can have such a major impact on some players. Sure they might be somewhat annoying to see crawling allover, nothing else. You play your game - they play theirs. Is been long time since i cared to much about bots. It sure wont help anyone or yourself comming here threatening to do this or do that if not this and that. So chill, play and move along... and motifs in store? Come on... Find em or buy em from someone ingame... Gamestores where you can buy rare stuff bother me way more than bots and its not like its so hard to earn golds for your motifs either...
This guy gets it.
OP...not so much.
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crush83✭✭✭✭tjockis1981 wrote: »Seiously.. Just ignore the bots and move on... Cant imagine how those can have such a major impact on some players. Sure they might be somewhat annoying to see crawling allover, nothing else. You play your game - they play theirs. Is been long time since i cared to much about bots. It sure wont help anyone or yourself comming here threatening to do this or do that if not this and that. So chill, play and move along... and motifs in store? Come on... Find em or buy em from someone ingame... Gamestores where you can buy rare stuff bother me way more than bots and its not like its so hard to earn golds for your motifs either...
I would love to find them and up until last weekend that was exactly my plan. Then I found out for two days I had wasted all my time and effort and was collecting 300 lockpicks because of stealth nerf diminishing returns. I am PISSED SUPER EFFING PISSED! and so are many others because now instead of us having a chance to find this stuff ourselves we are no longer motivated to do so. Once you have went through an entire town and gotten 5 lockpicks maybe you will feel the same.
I can understand that. It sounds awful. I'm glad I didn't experience that, or I'd be equally pissed. I've learned the hard way that the best way to get people to listen to you isn't writing in all caps, issuing threats directed towards Zenimax, and staying respectful. I think that your message could reach a wider audience were you to refrain from embedding so much raw emotion. I can respect your passion though.1 -
TheGodless1✭✭✭Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda....deal with it and stop buying gold from farmers...doesn't matter how you try to explain it away, your words were clear enough. Threat made is threat perceived. Doesn't matter if it was veiled or not. CAN be seen as violation of ToS. Then all your complaining will probably be like your playing...empty and meaningless...so worried about it and think you have some measure of control that by throwing childish threats around in a game forum that you can get your way. Mommy doesn't work here...crying and throwing a temper tantrum won't fix it. Threatening to buy gold from the farmers definitely won't help. They should treat these idle threats like actual botters and just get rid of em once and for all in my opinion. Save the threads for something of actual value.2
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Calaban✭✭✭tjockis1981 wrote: »Seiously.. Just ignore the bots and move on... Cant imagine how those can have such a major impact on some players. Sure they might be somewhat annoying to see crawling allover, nothing else. You play your game - they play theirs. Is been long time since i cared to much about bots. It sure wont help anyone or yourself comming here threatening to do this or do that if not this and that. So chill, play and move along... and motifs in store? Come on... Find em or buy em from someone ingame... Gamestores where you can buy rare stuff bother me way more than bots and its not like its so hard to earn golds for your motifs either...
I would love to find them and up until last weekend that was exactly my plan. Then I found out for two days I had wasted all my time and effort and was collecting 300 lockpicks because of stealth nerf diminishing returns. I am PISSED SUPER EFFING PISSED! and so are many others because now instead of us having a chance to find this stuff ourselves we are no longer motivated to do so. Once you have went through an entire town and gotten 5 lockpicks maybe you will feel the same.
I can understand that. It sounds awful. I'm glad I didn't experience that, or I'd be equally pissed. I've learned the hard way that the best way to get people to listen to you isn't writing in all caps, issuing threats directed towards Zenimax, and staying respectful. I think that your message could reach a wider audience were you to refrain from embedding so much raw emotion. I can respect your passion though.
Yup.
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