Syldras wrote: »

The eye tilt is one minor thing that doesn't annoy me that much, personally. And Eveli doesn't even look bad in that trailer. But how is this an Altmer face? She shape alone is much too rounded:



Eyes are wrong, too, with the iris being much too small. And with Dunmer, it gets even worse:



There's not even one thing right about her. Some people even thought she was supposed to be an orc.

:0 how she doesn't even have tusks

OtarTheMad wrote: »

https://youtube.com/watch?v=92dRIs9aFP8

I think this is all cinematic trailers except Gold Road. Make Popcorn, sit back and watch the closest we will all get to an TES movie or TV show.

Thanks for the link! That's quite the compilation; it's nice to see them all stitched together like that for an easy re-watch. That Breton guy sure has gone through quite the story arc; I find him the most compelling of the three.

Wish my sorceress could fling around magic like the Altmer character--she seems to be a class unto herself, what with her magic and her sword. Just a tiny bit envious of her abilities.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I guess the devs assumed that players would create an elf character to do the story line but before AWA I always used my main toon and she’s a Khajiit. Still do now in fact.

I think the trailer characters are supposed not only to represent the different factions, but also to appeal to different bigger demographics. A Nord for the huge "viking" fanbase, one elf for all people who love elves (they probably thought a young Altmer woman would appeal to most), and... a Breton. For... people who like Bretons, I guess. It's sad in a way that there's no Khajiit or Argonian, but that's a problem of wanting to appeal to the mainstream, probably.

Note that the characters also represent the typical roleplay archetypes: One warrior, one mage, one thief.

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

The three heroes are stand ins for your character. You are supposed to imagine your own character in their place. Its a very clever storytelling-device.

Never worked for me, to be honest. All I see is one big human, one small human and a LotR elf woman running through some action scene that's roughly related to the new chapter in terms of scenery (and sometimes there's an opponent character that we'll meet during the storyline).

Syldras wrote: »

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

The three heroes are stand ins for your character. You are supposed to imagine your own character in their place. Its a very clever storytelling-device.

Never worked for me, to be honest. All I see is one big human, one small human and a LotR elf woman running through some action scene that's roughly related to the new chapter in terms of scenery (and sometimes there's an opponent character that we'll meet during the storyline).

For me as a roleplayer its the most immersive kind of trailer-storytelling I have ever seen. I literally get goosebumps when I see the Heroes in a new cinematic.
I often watch the compilation of all the cinematics.

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

For me as a roleplayer its the most immersive kind of trailer-storytelling I have ever seen. I literally get goosebumps when I see the Heroes in a new cinematic.
I often watch the compilation of all the cinematics.

To me as a roleplayer it doesn't work at all because the whole thing doesn't even really look TES most of the time. Could be an ad for every other fantasy game. Also, I can't relate to the characters in any way; they also don't look much like any character I'd create (and for the ones wondering: yes, I also have non-Dunmer characters).

Syldras wrote: »

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

For me as a roleplayer its the most immersive kind of trailer-storytelling I have ever seen. I literally get goosebumps when I see the Heroes in a new cinematic.
I often watch the compilation of all the cinematics.

To me as a roleplayer it doesn't work at all because the whole thing doesn't even really look TES most of the time. Could be an ad for every other fantasy game. Also, I can't relate to the characters in any way; they also don't look much like any character I'd create (and for the ones wondering: yes, I also have non-Dunmer characters).

I was always able to project, be it with books, games or other media. But everyone feels art differently. thats the beauty of it.
What I cant understand is why you think the Trailers are generic. For me they are distinctively Elder Scrolls. And I have played all games since Daggerfall when they released.

Syldras wrote: »

What in the trailers looks typical TES to you? I'd like to understand.

The high Fantasy feeling. The casual nature of magic and the ebb and flow of appearances of Daedra/Dwemer/Werewolves and Vampires. And the Heroes with their high fantasy-power of killing pretty much anything in their Wake singlehandedly. Just like we can in TES-Games.
TES-Heroes are not normal. We are literal godkillers. In ESO we can do 100k DPS. Which means every enemy just explodes when youre looking at them funny. Endbosses from expansions normally dont even last long enough to say their opening line before dying.
In Skyrim you can oneshot everything at the end with the right build.

They are a bunch of zerglings clearly ganging up on that poor Dremora by themselves who is only trying to get his master back, maybe if they invested in becoming Blood Scions they might actually win for once.

colossalvoids wrote: »

It wasn't always that bad



But quality indeed dropped down below the ground since Morrowind, probably to cater more to non tes people with more humane looks.

It's more likely that Blur Studio just reuses human rigs/models/assets in all their cinematics.

CGI is expensive, and it's likely a lot easier/less time consuming for all the people in the trailers to have regular old eyes instead of super stylized elven eyes. Just a guess, but I'd put my money on that being the case over a deliberate style change to feel more "human".

They are random heroes, one is an elf lady with green magic blobs, another is a Nord with a huge axe and the last is a Breton assassin's creed man. The three of them are friends and they travel around tamriel trying to save the realms but fail, and so that is why they bring you in, the nameless hero person

vsrs_au wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

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LunaFlora wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

There isn't even a mer in the trailers, there's a human with cosmetic pointy ears on.

the only thing that's human about them is their eyes really

The only thing that's mer about them is their ears.

ESO and fanart can only make elves look good by making them look more human

I think mer are a lot more attractive when they look like mer 🤷

Agreed, they're not as good without the elven eyes and ears. The eyes should be like this:

Those are bosmer pupils, the other mer doesn't have ones like that, and the eyes are still a bit too human. The irises are too small and the eyes are not slanted enough.
The altmer and dunmer in the trailers are much worse, though, because their eyes are even more human and they don't even have angular, sharped featured faces as altmer and dunmer have, more so than bosmer. Although I prefer bosmer to have angular faces too.

Syldras wrote: »

The first few trailers had flaws, too, though. Like comically large elven ears.

World of Warcraft, is that you?

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

The high Fantasy feeling.

But how is this what we see in the trailers different to other fantasy worlds or franchises?

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

The casual nature of magic and the ebb and flow of appearances of Daedra/Dwemer/Werewolves and Vampires. And the Heroes with their high fantasy-power of killing pretty much anything in their Wake singlehandedly. Just like we can in TES-Games.

Of course you are free to feel that way, but for me, that doesn't sound like something specific to TES.

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

TES-Heroes are not normal. We are literal godkillers.

Well, I played an Ashlander once. He was a hunter, nothing more.

When it comes to Daedric Princes, we might banish them for a while, but they're not destroyed. Dagoth Ur? Defeating him wasn't that much a question of our power, but of having the right tools to destroy his power source.

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

In ESO we can do 100k DPS. Which means every enemy just explodes when youre looking at them funny. Endbosses from expansions normally dont even last long enough to say their opening line before dying. In Skyrim you can oneshot everything at the end with the right build.

With every weapon more or less, if you've reached a high level (if was especially ridiculous with bow + extra sneak damage - a pity, actually, because nothing was challenging anymore).

It seems we have different things we consider typical for TES. For me, The Elder Scrolls is deep lore, interesting narrations, freedom of choice, huge portions of wilderness to explore, the fascination of discovering the remnants of ancient civilizations that were untouched for centuries,... And while I understand that some of these things might be hard to represent in a 3 minute trailer, some random people jumping through an action scene with screaming and things exploding definitively isn't what comes to my mind when I think of TES. There are fast and dramatic fights, of course, but TES - at least in the way I play the games - also has many rather calm and slow moments. Sneaking through a ruin, trying to avoid traps, staying in the shadows and carefully looking around corners to spot enemies. Wandering the landscape and enjoying the scenery. Sitting down in a warm tavern after a long fight. Longer dialogues filled with interesting lore. It's more than just running and killing everything (if it was that, I could also play an Ego Shooter game without much story, focussing only on shooting everything that moves). But then, I also never understood the "power fantasy" thing that some people seem to enjoy. I don't even know why I would need such a thing.

Probably it's hard to include everything people consider typical for TES in such a short trailer. But then, at least the characters should look like they are actually TES characters. Which the elves don't.

I can't believe this. It's so reductive to call her "elven chick". Ellevenchique is an escaped Ayrenn body double who is trying to thwart a serious threat to Tamriel that she inadvertently helped start with her trusty nixad, Poof the Urnbreaker.

It all started one ordinary day outside Alinor Palace, when the sky shone clear and the sea winds danced gently ...

Syldras wrote: »

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

I can't believe this. It's so reductive to call her "elven chick". Ellevenchique is an escaped Ayrenn body double who is trying to thwart a serious threat to Tamriel that she inadvertently helped start with her trusty nixad, Poof the Urnbreaker.
It all started one ordinary day outside Alinor Palace, when the sky shone clear and the sea winds danced gently ...

You're still lying. This is obviously a human with glued-on fake ears. With that face, she would never be more than a Hulkynd if she was really an Altmer.